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SMS Goeben

Moltke-class battlecruiser transferred from the Imperial German Navy to the Ottoman Navy.

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  1. Bruships 264: Naval History Questions Answered Live
    39:39Why River Plate is an imperfect analogy for intercepting GoebenNotable Point
  2. What happens if Emperor Napoleon III of France backs Emperor Maximilian of Mexico to the Maximum?
    1:09:54Mexican bases for von Spee, Goeben and BreslauNotable Point
  3. What happens if instead of Gallipoli, Fisher gets Churchill to go for the Baltic? (Patreon)
    15:11Queen Elizabeth's second Gallipoli mission: stop GoebenNotable Point
  4. What happens if instead of Gallipoli, Fisher gets Churchill to go for the Baltic? (Patreon)
    55:39Would better maintenance of the Ottoman Navy have changed Gallipoli?Q&A
  5. Special Catch Up Ramblings on Behalf of @TheFleetOfOceans
    2:21:24Goeben and Breslau in the Indian OceanQ&A
  6. Lions not Indefatigables; What if Australia & New Zealand go Battlecruiser not Battle Cruiser...
    51:22The fleet cost of German prestige deploymentsNotable Point
  7. Lions not Indefatigables - the Dominions chose to build 13.5in Battlecruisers prior to WWI...
    54:24Moltke and Goeben as possible Far Eastern opponentsNotable Point
  8. Lions not Indefatigables - the Dominions chose to build 13.5in Battlecruisers prior to WWI...
    58:29Can the extra Lions predict the postwar treaty balance?Q&A
  9. 36hrs Live Historiophon 2025: P8 of 9 - UAD chat requested design testing…
    1:42:00The Ottoman Empire's best option in July 1914Q&A
  10. Historiophon 2025: part 3 of 9 - Combat Stress
    1:44:16Why an early battlecruiser would avoid a Lord NelsonNotable Point
  11. Historiophon 2025: part 3 of 9 - Combat Stress
    1:46:20If the Lord Nelson class had defeated GoebenQ&A
  12. Bruships 210: Naval History Questions Answered Live...
    3:12:41The First World War's Mediterranean naval campaignsQ&A
  13. Bruships 202: Naval History Questions Answered Live...
    5:37:00Favourite Imperial German ships: Bayern, Moltke, and GoebenQ&A
  14. What happens to WWI if the Royal Navy got a full Admiralty Staff when the General Staff came to be?
    1:37:53Regional battlecruisers and Goeben's route to the OttomansNotable Point
  15. Bruships 182: Naval History Questions Answered Live...
    2:47:39A Malta 100-ton gun hit could doom GoebenQ&A
  16. Square Pegs for Round Holes: When it's not a bad Admiral but the wrong job for that Admiral
    0:30Why Beatty may have fitted a Mediterranean commandChapter
  17. Convoys: When, Why & What, the Benefits & the Negatives…
    39:44Clearing surface raiders exposed a submarine problemNotable Point
  18. Bruships 174: Ten Days to Christmas... have I got the lights up yet?
    1:40:42Why the hunt for Bismarck became possibleQ&A
  19. Bruships 172: So the Historiophon Happened...
    4:17:55Fast 9.2-inch cruisers could trap GoebenQ&A
  20. Frigating Tiger Cubs: WWI if the Royal Navy builds some 9.2in armed 'Dreadnought Cruisers'
    56:08Two Tiger Cubs could reverse the Battle of CoronelChapter
  21. Frigating Tiger Cubs: WWI if the Royal Navy builds some 9.2in armed 'Dreadnought Cruisers'
    1:27:07Global deployment without wasting battlecruisersChapter
  22. Tiger Cubs - RN actually builds dreadnought armoured cruisers with 9.2in guns alongside HMS Tiger...
    1:16:24Keeping Goeben contained in the MediterraneanChapter
  23. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    13:16The 1914 force balance makes Lion availableChapter
  24. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    16:09Why Lion changes the pursuit of GoebenNotable Point
  25. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    19:50Milne's choice: concentration or a split forceChapter
  26. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    27:34British decisions imply only partial knowledge of German ordersNotable Point
  27. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    28:58The historical chase shows the speed problemChapter
  28. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    32:21Conflicting Admiralty signals unravel the pursuitNotable Point
  29. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    36:13If Milne keeps Lion closeNotable Point
  30. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    47:43Lion and Troubridge turn pursuit into a trapChapter
  31. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    54:39How losing Goeben could alter Ottoman alignmentNotable Point
  32. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    1:01:51No Goeben means no rushed Gallipoli gambleNotable Point
  33. Beatty of the Mediterranean: Finding the Right Peg for the Right Hole?
    1:07:13The third route: Goeben in Austria-HungaryChapter
  34. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    35:58Why pre-war shadowing did not become an attackNotable Point
  35. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    41:07Why Goeben and Breslau were so hard to catchChapter
  36. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    44:10The August 1914 escape of Goeben and BreslauChapter
  37. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    56:43Could Lion have caught Goeben in a tail chase?Chapter
  38. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    1:19:21Lion and Troubridge force a battle near Cape MatapanChapter
  39. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    1:24:00Why Goeben could not simply fight through the trapNotable Point
  40. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    1:27:16Could Troubridge's four armoured cruisers defeat Goeben?Q&A
  41. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    1:28:24A captured Goeben could reveal how British shells performedNotable Point
  42. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    1:28:57A Mediterranean victory could reshape CoronelChapter
  43. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    1:32:50Without Goeben, Ottoman neutrality could keep Russia suppliedChapter
  44. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    1:48:02Goeben in the Adriatic: raids and an earlier Italian interventionChapter
  45. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    1:52:11Containing Goeben at the Strait of OtrantoNotable Point
  46. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    2:05:46Could Beatty lose Lion even if Goeben was sunk?Q&A
  47. V.Adm Beatty is sent to Command the Mediterranean Battle Cruisers in 1914... Patreon 105
    2:19:43Could the River Plate cruisers defeat Goeben at night?Q&A
  48. Bruships 157: Books so good they've blown the budget on the #ScandiShip24 tour already!
    1:13:08A 9.2-inch cruiser line changes the Goeben pursuitQ&A
  49. Bruships 150: Naval History Questions Answered, Boxes Packed & July Patreon Suggestions Kicks Off
    27:24If Greece captured the battlecruiser GoebenQ&A
  50. Patreon 101: If Lord Fisher died in Jan 1914, how does Prince Louis of Battenberg perform as 1SL?
    58:31Covering both of Goeben's Mediterranean escape routesNotable Point
  51. HMS Ben My Chree(1908/1915): A Soaring Service with a Legacy of Fire Risk Managment
    32:40Dardanelles patrols create a steady information flowChapter
  52. Old Crocks at War: The Value of Reserve Ships to Navys in WWI
    30:04Old battleships free the Grand Fleet to concentrateChapter
  53. Bruships 130: Battleships
    1:20:09A Greek Goeben in the Second World WarQ&A
  54. What Happens if 1930s Germany Standardises on the Scharnhorst hull for Capital Ships & Carriers?
    26:59The Goeben and Breslau lesson for distant raidersNotable Point
  55. Naval History Questions Live... with Irn Bru... which is a scottish soft drink... not fizzy whisky!
    41:50Russian Black Sea Fleet support for the DardanellesQ&A
  56. Austro Hungarian Battleships: Habsburg Class to Ersatz Monarch Class with a little help from Skoda
    18:34What if Goeben and Breslau had joined the Adriatic fleet?Notable Point
  57. Nothing Wrong With Our Shells; Alternate History, Jutland if Royal Navy Shells Work extended editon
    33:48A Goeben encounter as the reform triggerNotable Point
  58. Nothing Wrong With Our Shells; Alternate History, Jutland if Royal Navy Shells Work extended editon
    39:11Wartime damage evidence could break industrial resistanceNotable Point
  59. Nothing Wrong With Our Shells; Alternate History, Jutland if Royal Navy Shells Work extended editon
    43:37The Goeben chase combines doctrine, speed, and coal qualityNotable Point
  60. Nothing Wrong With Our Shells; Alternate History, Jutland if Royal Navy Shells Work extended editon
    46:16Losing Goeben could reshape Gallipoli and the Grand FleetNotable Point
  61. Building the Fleets for Jutland
    46:19German battlecruisers had to reinforce the battle lineNotable Point
  62. Nothing Wrong With Our Shells Today; Alternate History, What if British Shells at Jutland Work?
    32:35Finding a plausible point of divergence before JutlandChapter
  63. Nothing Wrong With Our Shells Today; Alternate History, What if British Shells at Jutland Work?
    39:14A damaged Goeben could supply proof and timeNotable Point
  64. Nothing Wrong With Our Shells Today; Alternate History, What if British Shells at Jutland Work?
    40:31Wartime evidence could break industrial resistanceNotable Point
  65. Nothing Wrong With Our Shells Today; Alternate History, What if British Shells at Jutland Work?
    43:44Goeben's pursuit turns on coal, speed, and force weightNotable Point
  66. Nothing Wrong With Our Shells Today; Alternate History, What if British Shells at Jutland Work?
    46:09Goeben and the wider-war consequences of earlier reformChapter
  67. Patreon 74: What if History - Greenboy shells had been developed and deployed in time for Jutland.
    38:00A damaged Goeben could reveal the shell problemChapter
  68. Patreon 74: What if History - Greenboy shells had been developed and deployed in time for Jutland.
    1:02:38Could Austria-Hungary rescue Goeben from Greece?Q&A
  69. Patreon 74: What if History - Greenboy shells had been developed and deployed in time for Jutland.
    1:06:55Goeben's loss reshapes Gallipoli and the Grand FleetNotable Point
  70. Patreon 74: What if History - Greenboy shells had been developed and deployed in time for Jutland.
    1:06:55Success against Goeben could alter Cradock's choices at CoronelNotable Point
  71. Queen Elizabeth Class: Brave 1st step/faltering leap/something else? & Patreon 73 Comment Response
    36:28How slower battleships could obstruct GoebenNotable Point
  72. Battle of Coronel in Retrospect
    2:34:25Troubridge's court-martial haunted CradockChapter
  73. Town Class (1911): Chathams
    13:51HMS Dublin's night pursuit of Goeben reaches its limitsChapter
  74. Duke of Edinburgh Class: Year of Crusier (Long Patrol)
    49:25Troubridge, Goeben, and ambiguous ordersChapter
  75. Patreon 42: "Recovering from Disaster: The Imperial Russian Navy between Russo-Japanese War & WW1."
    2:43:01Imperatritsa Mariya could have constrained Goeben soonerChapter
  76. Bruships: A Special - Questions/What ifs till the Bru runs out? (9)
    40:12Unrepaired damage could blunt Goeben and Breslau's escapeNotable Point
  77. Chiefs of Staff of the Axis Navies: (Long Patrol) - P7/12: Karl Dönitz
    3:24A short First World War U-boat apprenticeshipChapter
  78. Bruships: A Special - Questions/What ifs till the Bru runs out? (6)
    1:35:15Why Russia did not attack the Dardanelles from the Black SeaQ&A
  79. An Introduction to Armoured Cruisers & the Mediteranean
    27:29Armoured cruisers in Mediterranean operationsNotable Point
  80. Patreon 31: Armoured Cruisers in the Mediterranean in WWI
    39:01The Mediterranean needed faster scouts or heavier shipsNotable Point
  81. Patreon 31: Armoured Cruisers in the Mediterranean in WWI
    48:14Why the Ottoman Navy skipped armoured cruisersNotable Point
  82. Patreon 31: Armoured Cruisers in the Mediterranean in WWI
    2:15:09Could armoured cruisers threaten Goeben?Q&A
  83. Patreon 27: Some Actions of the French Navy in WWI
    2:10:53Could Russia's Black Sea Fleet support the Dardanelles attack?Q&A
  84. Dreadnoughts from Around the World (1905-14): 1908
    16:09Moltke and Goeben repeat the offset-turret compromiseChapter
  85. Patreon 19: 2nd Tier powers Dreadnoughts: Spain, Austria-Hungary, S.America, Greece & Ottomans
    1:31:34Battlecruisers or battleships for middle powers?Q&A
  86. Naval Fire Support of the WWI Western Front: Long Patrol, Part 2, Abercrombie Class
    37:26Battle of Imbros exposed slow monitors without heavy escortChapter