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What happends if you Tigered the Queen Elizabeth Class?
Study What happends if you Tigered the Queen Elizabeth Class?, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 3 Oct 2026, with 51 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Battle Of Jutland, Fast Battleships.
Time notes
- 0:00Tiger and Queen Elizabeth approaching the fast battleshipChapter
Tiger's size and protection provide the starting point for a hypothetical Queen Elizabeth built around a battlecruiser hull.
- 1:48Overlapping programmes and different trial requirementsNotable Point
Queen Elizabeth was launched before Tiger but needed longer trials for her fire control and new 15-inch guns.
- 3:11Heavier battlecruisers and faster battleshipsNotable Point
Two British design paths address the danger posed by enemy battlecruisers to the fleet's leading ships.
- 4:27Why cruiser support called for 28 knotsChapter
A 28-knot reconnaissance line needs fast-battleship support ahead of a battle line accelerating to about 21 knots.
- 6:27Why 24 knots still gave Queen Elizabeth tactical valueNotable Point
Queen Elizabeth's speed fell short of the stated aim but still offered an advantage over a 21-knot battle line.
- 7:53Interpreting the disputed Super Lion connectionNotable Point
The Super Lion idea raises a question about which contemporary fast-ship project Fisher and Churchill had in mind.
- 9:00Pink Lists as dated snapshots of naval readinessNotable Point
Pink Lists help locate ships and assess their condition, provided their date and reporting limits remain clear.
- 10:34Why ship-design folders can mix several projectsNotable Point
Mixed folders, meetings and recollections make a design label such as Super Lion difficult to trace.
- 12:20The uncertain claim of a Tiger sister named LeopardNotable Point
Singular Super Lion wording supports a tentative Tiger connection, while the claimed Leopard sister remains uncorroborated.
- 14:33British and German battlecruiser rolesChapter
Different expectations of battle-line support help explain why Britain needed a tougher battlecruiser in Tiger.
- 17:32Tiger's belts and the distribution of hull weightNotable Point
Tiger's armour layout shows how a heavily protected battlecruiser still differed from a battleship.
- 19:12Queen Elizabeth's deeper belts and selective protectionNotable Point
Queen Elizabeth's lower belt nearly matches Tiger's main belt, while selective coverage points toward a different armour philosophy.
- 21:03Hull shape trades speed against gun stability and manoeuvrabilityNotable Point
Tiger's sleeker hull and Queen Elizabeth's fuller form reflect different priorities in speed, gunfire and turning.
- 21:53Construction volume allowed separate specialized hullsNotable Point
Britain's construction throughput and large fleet made separate battleship and battlecruiser designs affordable.
- 25:02A common Scharnhorst hull in a diesel-fleet scenarioNotable Point
Repeating a Scharnhorst hull in a diesel-fleet scenario could reduce delays from enlarging German shipyards.
- 26:37French intervention and the Anglo-Japanese allianceNotable Point
French entry into a hypothetical Russo-Japanese War would widen the conflict through the Anglo-Japanese alliance.
- 28:38A rough three-month delay for the Tiger-based designChapter
Using Tiger as the basis requires waiting longer for its design, with roughly thirteen weeks adopted for the scenario.
- 29:50Tiger's dimensions and machinery baselineNotable Point
Tiger's 39-boiler installation supplies a baseline for judging the proposed battleship's power and space requirements.
- 31:07Why boiler count does not directly determine horsepowerNotable Point
Steam quantity, pressure and turbine efficiency interact, limiting simple comparisons between boiler numbers.
- 33:03Queen Elizabeth's boiler and turbine combinationsChapter
Different boiler and turbine combinations help explain why twenty-four boilers could support a high power target.
- 35:46An unpublished hypothesis about Warspite's steam surgesNotable Point
An unpublished naval engineer's hypothesis links Warspite's performance differences to uneven boiler settings and steam surges.
- 37:36Lion and Iron Duke as machinery comparisonsNotable Point
Earlier battlecruiser and battleship installations show how rapidly machinery options were changing.
- 39:56Higher steam pressure and turbine blade efficiencyNotable Point
The machinery estimate treats a rise from 235 to 265 psi as a roughly thirteen-percent power boost, with turbine blade design offering another efficiency gain.
- 41:29Hull proportions and the yards that could build themNotable Point
Length-to-beam ratios explain the proposed gain in speed efficiency and its compatibility with existing yards.
- 43:05Battleship armour constrains boiler-room spaceNotable Point
Supporting heavier armour requires framing and subdivision that prevent a direct copy of Tiger's five boiler rooms.
- 44:23Thirty-two boilers and Parsons turbinesNotable Point
The proposed machinery combines four rooms of eight Yarrow boilers with Parsons turbines and an estimated 80,000-85,000 shaft horsepower.
- 45:43A provisional armour and turret arrangementNotable Point
The longer ship could retain heavy belts and two funnels while changing the position of an aft turret.
- 46:34Could extra time help the longer 15-inch gun?Notable Point
Three extra months might help the 15-inch/45 programme, although a major change in gun development remains doubtful.
- 47:50Keeping battleship beam on Tiger's longer hullNotable Point
The proposed ship retains at least 28 metres of beam for its 15-inch guns while adopting Tiger's approximate length.
- 48:42Delayed entry, Gallipoli and Jutland availabilityChapter
The assumed delay could keep Queen Elizabeth away from Gallipoli while leaving four sisters available for Jutland.
- 49:38The unresolved design of the proposed sixth Queen ElizabethNotable Point
The unbuilt Agincourt raises competing possibilities: a distinctive six-gun fast battleship or another ship of the common class design.
- 51:10Why the estimate rounds up to 30,000 tonsNotable Point
Repeated weight estimates produce figures below 30,000 tons, with an added margin for potentially missed items.
- 53:05Higher speed with battleship-like accelerationNotable Point
Higher-pressure boilers and a finer hull offer greater speed, while added weight leaves the ship with battleship-like acceleration.
- 55:08Fuel load, full displacement and Suez accessNotable Point
The 30,000-ton estimate excludes fuel and water, which could bring full load to roughly 37,000-38,000 tons.
- 1:03:32The proposed 28-knot speed remains uncertainNotable Point
The final design assessment leaves top speed and some turret, mast and fire-control positions provisional.
- 1:05:38Making the German naval race financially unsustainableNotable Point
A major British capability increase could intensify the budget pressure between Germany's navy and army.
- 1:07:04American standard battleships facing a faster opponentChapter
British battleships making 27-28 knots would challenge American standardization around a 21-knot battle line.
- 1:08:47Changing bearing and range with superior speedNotable Point
A faster force can complicate gunnery by changing its bearing and range, even when a complete encirclement is impractical.
- 1:09:36A speculative building pause and delayed First World WarNotable Point
A second Dreadnought-like design shock could prompt reassessment, with a further speculative effect on readiness for war.
- 1:11:46Keeping Agincourt within the fast Queen Elizabeth designNotable Point
A sixth fast Queen Elizabeth could take priority over a special Agincourt carrying six 18-inch guns.
- 1:12:21A cheaper R class that preserves speedChapter
Three triple turrets offer a possible way to reduce cost while keeping a fast battle line.
- 1:14:56Italian fast-battleship ambitions and British throughputNotable Point
British production volume could turn the design advantage into completed ships before rival programmes.
- 1:16:32Fast Queen Elizabeths in Jutland's run to the southChapter
Faster battleships could join the front of the action, adding heavy firepower and protected targets to the British force.
- 1:17:41A damaged scouting force could change Scheer's decisionNotable Point
Severe damage to the German scouting force could encourage withdrawal, while British speed makes a pursuit hazardous.
- 1:19:25Competing demands on fast battleships and gunnery trainingNotable Point
Ships well suited to protecting the Grand Fleet could become difficult to retain there when the battlecruiser force needs reinforcement.
- 1:20:30Fast battleships weaken the case for battlecruiser successorsNotable Point
An established fast battle line could limit Fisher's arguments for replacing battleships with battlecruisers.
- 1:21:38A twelve-gun fast battleship successorNotable Point
The triple-turret branch leads to an imagined successor with twelve 15-inch guns, about 45,000 tons and 28-30 knots.
- 1:22:35A fast battle line changes treaty bargainingChapter
Four 45,000-ton fast battleships would make a 35,000-ton limit harder to negotiate than a single exceptional Hood.
- 1:24:25Would Amagi and Lexington still be battlecruisers?Notable Point
An earlier British fast-battleship line raises uncertainty about the form of later Japanese and American ships.
- 1:25:01Eight or nine 16.5-inch guns in the successor classNotable Point
Larger-gun branches preserve the proposed speed and protection while increasing pressure on rival designs.
- 1:26:23Why Tiger and Queen Elizabeth remained separate designsNotable Point
Construction urgency and separate design discussions help explain why Tiger's hull was never combined with Queen Elizabeth's attributes.