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Patreon 53: Comparison of Future Warships for the RN/RAN/RCN/RNZN
Study Patreon 53: Comparison of Future Warships for the RN/RAN/RCN/RNZN, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 19 May 2022, with 80 time notes. Topics include Aircraft Carriers, Force Structure, Maritime Trade.
Time notes
- 2:27QuestionWhat might Britain have built if three battleships, rather than three battlecruisers, had exploded catastrophically at Jutland?AnswerQ&A
Probably a faster Queen Elizabeth-style battleship, potentially developing toward an N3-like design with 18-inch guns, rather than another 36-knot battlecruiser.
- 14:50QuestionHow much more aggressive might the Royal Navy have become if Germany had lost three battlecruisers at Jutland?AnswerQ&A
Its general posture might have stayed similar, but the later balance could have made a battlecruiser raid into the Baltic more tempting.
- 19:26Using history to compare future fleetsChapter
The comparison is rooted in each navy's strategic setting, historical habits, and political constraints rather than a wish list of ships.
- 21:22Drone warfare repeats early aviation's countermeasure cycleNotable Point
As lasers begin defeating drones, protection and counter-countermeasures may evolve much as First World War spotter aircraft developed into armed fighters and bombers.
- 22:16QuestionHow would deploying nuclear weapons in Belarus affect Royal Air Force and Royal Navy strategy?AnswerQ&A
Only indirectly: the RAF would support exposed eastern allies, while Britain's principal answer remained deterrence rather than a deployed ballistic-missile shield.
- 23:11QuestionCould future missile cruisers replace carriers as the primary strike element, leaving carriers mainly as the sustained combat element?AnswerQ&A
No. Carriers remain part of both roles because aircraft add launch range and approach options, while the carrier can be replenished at sea in ways that vertical-launch cells currently cannot.
- 24:33QuestionWhat might the future equivalent of a Flower-class convoy escort look like?AnswerQ&A
A trawler-sized uncrewed vessel acting as a force multiplier under the air-defence and command cover of a larger ship such as a Type 26 or Type 83.
- 25:30QuestionWould hypersonic missiles be better confined to cruisers and destroyers rather than mounted on aircraft?AnswerQ&A
No. Air launch can extend reach and give the weapon the altitude and initial speed otherwise supplied by a separate booster stage.
- 27:44QuestionWhy can navies replenish carriers at sea but not simply reload a warship's vertical-launch system?AnswerQ&A
Modern missiles must be lowered into exposed cells with far greater precision than robust shells, while ship motion, wind, and limited handling equipment make damage likely.
- 31:30QuestionDid piracy flare up during the First or Second World War away from the main fleet concentrations?AnswerQ&A
Not significantly, because most maritime regions remained under the control or patrol of one dominant fleet or another.
- 31:54QuestionCould a floating dry dock solve at-sea reloading by matching the motion of the receiving warship?AnswerQ&A
Not in the open ocean, but it could form the core of a useful forward replenishment and repair site in protected waters.
- 36:47QuestionHow similar can the City, Hunter, and Canadian Type 26 variants be when their full-load displacements differ?AnswerQ&A
They remain similar through a shared architecture; national hull size and equipment can vary because the expensive common value lies chiefly in design and systems integration.
- 37:36QuestionWhy did vertical-launch systems take over from arm launchers if VLS is so difficult to reload at sea?AnswerQ&A
VLS offers faster reaction and a much higher firing rate, making it better suited to defeating saturation attacks.
- 39:12Australia's uranium paradox and trade exposureChapter
Australia combines rich uranium reserves and a commodity-export economy with no civil nuclear-power sector and substantial exposure to Chinese demand and imported energy.
- 43:23Australia's sea-based defensive depthChapter
Australia's coastal population and vast maritime responsibilities make sea control and power projection central to its defensive depth.
- 45:42Civil nuclear experience and submarine skillsNotable Point
The lack of a civilian nuclear-power sector complicates Australia's ability to sustain the skills needed for a nuclear-powered submarine arm.
- 48:21Canada's trade strength and Arctic security exposureChapter
Canada combines a large, trade-integrated economy and diverse energy base with exposed Arctic geography and a diplomatic culture that can be tested by coercive powers.
- 51:46QuestionWhy has Australia seemed so resistant to nuclear power despite its uranium resources?AnswerQ&A
Coal supported a large employment constituency, while nuclear generation would sustain fewer direct jobs and therefore faced a strong political disadvantage.
- 55:32New Zealand's large maritime obligationsChapter
A population of about five million must support responsibilities across a large EEZ, Antarctic interests, Pacific island relationships, and trade routes far beyond New Zealand's shores.
- 58:00QuestionDoes the Royal New Zealand Navy have only patrol vessels?AnswerQ&A
No. It also operates two frigates, HMNZS Canterbury, and other supporting ships.
- 59:35QuestionWould ships know they were being tracked by an approaching F-35?AnswerQ&A
It depends on the radar generation and range; stealth is not an invisibility cloak, and radar designers continue working to detect the aircraft farther away.
- 1:02:22Why British security extends along global trade routesChapter
Britain's overseas territories and trade-dependent economy turn distant shipping disruptions into national security problems.
- 1:07:50The Barnett Formula as industrial infrastructure policyChapter
Regional funding can sustain the schools, roads, and railways needed by nationally important industry where the local tax base alone is too small.
- 1:12:36Australia's small, adaptable force traditionNotable Point
Australia's armed forces are characterised as compact, adaptable, and suited to hard-hitting allied operations, while the surrounding ocean remains the country's strategic security zone.
- 1:17:53QuestionIs Australia's nuclear-submarine programme changing its doctrine or returning it to defence in depth?AnswerQ&A
It is probably a return to defence in depth, reversing the earlier concentration of defensive reach close to Australia.
- 1:20:52The cost of boom-and-bust Australian shipbuildingChapter
Domestic construction supports strategic independence, but gaps between programmes repeatedly destroy the workforce and infrastructure that the next project must pay to rebuild.
- 1:24:25QuestionIf Britain had sold Invincible to Australia in 1983, what carrier replacement path might the Royal Australian Navy have followed?AnswerQ&A
If the force survived later reviews, Australia might eventually have chosen a Queen Elizabeth-class carrier or an F-35-capable Canberra design, but the outcome is highly contingent.
- 1:25:33Canada's vast Battle of the Atlantic escort fleetNotable Point
Canada's claim to the world's third-largest navy rested chiefly on its enormous escort fleet rather than on cruisers or other prestige ships.
- 1:26:25Why three powerful ships do not provide three deployable shipsNotable Point
Fleet numbers must cover operations, transit, training, and refit, so small classes produce fragile availability even when each new hull is much more capable than its predecessor.
- 1:29:10Why Canadian and Australian troops gained a shock-force reputationChapter
Dominion units were valued as shock troops for cohesion, fitness, and extended unit training, not because commanders simply regarded them as expendable.
- 1:30:22QuestionCan blue-and-gold or dual crewing solve the problem of wearing out personnel during high-tempo operations?AnswerQ&A
It helps crew endurance, but it costs more personnel and training infrastructure and does not remove the ship's maintenance cycle or vulnerability to loss.
- 1:33:08New Zealand at war and the Battle of the River PlateNotable Point
Achilles at the River Plate illustrates how New Zealand's small forces entered the Second World War from the beginning and made an early naval contribution.
- 1:37:16QuestionWould a revived HMS New Zealand have been adopted directly by New Zealand?AnswerQ&A
Probably not, because New Zealand would be unlikely to sustain a separate carrier type, but the ship could carry a substantial RNZN contingent and formal crewing traditions.
- 1:41:36The logistics behind Britain's global reachChapter
Britain's claim to global military reach rests less on having the third-largest force than on possessing the auxiliary, land-logistics, and airlift systems needed to sustain deployments.
- 1:45:01The recurring British contest between economy and readinessChapter
British strategy repeatedly balances trade-dependent economic strength against defence investment, often leaving forces modernising for a later war when conflict arrives early.
- 1:51:15QuestionIs an aggressor at least more likely to be ready when war begins?AnswerQ&A
Not necessarily. Nazi Germany in 1939 shows that the state starting a crisis may still misjudge when and how a larger war will begin.
- 1:52:24Why the Hunter design is being pulled toward air defenceNotable Point
A shortfall in Hobart-class air-defence numbers pushes Australia to add more air-warfare capability to the ASW-focused Hunter design.
- 1:55:32Why a Canberra-class F-35 conversion is not simpleNotable Point
Operating F-35s would require weapons, magazine, and sustainment changes designed out of the Canberra class, far beyond use of its ski-jump bow.
- 1:56:20Why classes of two and three imply wars of choiceNotable Point
Australia's small Hobart and Canberra classes were sized to contribute to allied interventions, not to absorb losses and sustain a peer war.
- 1:57:30A sustainable Hobart-class forceNotable Point
The proposed answer is not a dozen destroyers but roughly six to eight: enough for availability on both coasts without exceeding Australia's sustaining capacity.
- 2:00:25Why Australia must bring usable capability to an allianceNotable Point
Allied help is most credible when Australia can make a meaningful contribution to its own defence and to a combined force.
- 2:01:54Canada's heavily armed surface-combatant traditionNotable Point
Canada's preference for heavily armed frigate- or destroyer-sized ships reflects a smaller navy's need to extract maximum capability from every deployable hull.
- 2:03:16Canada's Atlantic, Pacific, and Arctic force problemChapter
Canada's fleet must be divided between two distant coasts while meeting separate Arctic requirements, limiting how quickly ships can reinforce one another.
- 2:04:43Canada's NATO spending gap and small-batch ship costsChapter
Canada fielded capable forces at about 1.3 percent of GDP, while comparisons with mass-produced American ships obscured the cost of domestic construction and Canadian-specific design work.
- 2:06:08Type 26 as a shared architecture with national variantsNotable Point
Canadian, Australian, and British Type 26 variants share an architecture while adapting it to national needs, spreading development benefits across the partners.
- 2:07:50New Zealand's small but capable naval forceChapter
The Royal New Zealand Navy is presented as a small, well-trained service built around two Anzac frigates, patrol vessels, and a multirole sealift ship.
- 2:10:24Why New Zealand accepted a fighter-free air forceNotable Point
For decades, distance, friendly Australia, and American predominance in the Pacific made maritime support aircraft a more rational priority than a small fighter arm.
- 2:13:05QuestionIs disaster-response capability more important to New Zealand than conventional military capability?AnswerQ&A
It is at least as important, but the choice is a false dichotomy: New Zealand needs a funded balance of both functions.
- 2:15:13Why defence plans must outlast today's intentionsNotable Point
Force structure must account for what other states could become and do over a ship's lifetime, beyond the intentions of today's leaders.
- 2:17:45A carrier and LHD mix for British aviation depthChapter
Replacing five aviation ships with two highly capable carriers reduced availability, leading to a proposal for complementary LHDs that can support amphibious operations and limited strike aviation.
- 2:20:01The escort shortfall behind British carrier groupsNotable Point
Britain built an excellent nucleus for global carrier operations but too few escorts to form every full battle group without allied ships.
- 2:21:31QuestionWhat submarines might an independent Scotland buy for a small navy?AnswerQ&A
Probably none at first; patrol vessels and perhaps uncrewed underwater systems would be more sustainable than conventional submarines.
- 2:22:52QuestionWhat does the immediate future of carrier aviation look like as uncrewed aircraft improve?AnswerQ&A
A hybrid carrier with mixed crewed and uncrewed aircraft is more likely than a fully uncrewed air group for the foreseeable future.
- 2:23:27QuestionHow many aircraft carriers and supporting aviation ships does Britain need?AnswerQ&A
Three carriers and four ski-ramp LHDs can be justified at the high end, but two carriers with two or preferably three LHDs is a more realistic target.
- 2:24:58QuestionCould Britain and Australia rotate carriers through the Indo-Pacific instead of Australia building another carrier?AnswerQ&A
Cooperation helps, but both navies still need more hulls because Britain cannot commit both carriers east of Suez while retaining an Atlantic capability.
- 2:25:35QuestionCould the United States lend Britain a mothballed aircraft carrier?AnswerQ&A
No practical candidate exists, and even a Nimitz-class ship would require roughly 5,000 personnel with its air wing compared with no more than about 1,600 aboard a fully loaded Queen Elizabeth-class carrier.
- 2:28:40QuestionWould a joint Australian-New Zealand military make the most sense for their resources and geography?AnswerQ&A
It is theoretically viable but unlikely because the two independent states have different governments and foreign policies.
- 2:29:40Why shared development matters more than shared steelChapter
Modern warship prices are driven heavily by design, integration, and industrial continuity, so spreading development across more national variants can reduce the cost attributed to each hull.
- 2:33:03QuestionShould American ships be called fleet carriers while Britain's Queen Elizabeth class is treated as light carriers?AnswerQ&A
No. A roughly 70,000-ton Queen Elizabeth-class ship is a strike or fleet carrier; light carriers sit much farther down the size and capability spectrum.
- 2:34:30QuestionWhy not build an American or Italian LHD design for the Royal Navy?AnswerQ&A
An Italian Trieste-derived design could provide the starting point, then be enlarged and adapted for Britain's wider operating conditions.
- 2:35:45The case for a shared submarine programmeChapter
A joint submarine programme could pool technology and personnel resources, while Canada's Arctic mission gives it a distinct case for under-ice capability.
- 2:39:03Why common programmes need strategic compatibilityNotable Point
The troubled Horizon project shows that multinational procurement works best when partners share operating requirements and permit national variants rather than forcing one compromise ship.
- 2:41:21QuestionCould Australia or Canada avoid nuclear propulsion by buying a large AIP submarine with advanced batteries?AnswerQ&A
Not with an established design suited to their distances; available conventional boats did not provide the required long-range operating scope.
- 2:43:04QuestionWhy has the United States resisted a Canadian nuclear-submarine capability, and does AUKUS change that position?AnswerQ&A
Technology-transfer and treaty concerns were the main barrier, but allowing Australia nuclear submarines makes continued exclusion of Canada much harder to justify.
- 2:44:05QuestionWould Canada have to forgo healthcare to afford the ships and submarines being discussed?AnswerQ&A
That is not the argument here; the available policy space is the roughly 0.7-percent-of-GDP gap between current spending and the NATO target.
- 2:46:42A Commonwealth high-low frigate mixNotable Point
The Type 26/Type 31 high-low model could give New Zealand a practical replacement route while supporting a wider common procurement framework.
- 2:49:07Common designs, national fleet mixesChapter
Common research and design work can lower costs without requiring Britain, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand to buy identical ships or fleet numbers.
- 2:51:49A shared Type 83-era destroyer familyNotable Point
The timing of Britain's Type 83 and Australia's eventual Hobart replacement could support a shared destroyer family, with Canada buying only enough large ships to lead each coastal force.
- 2:55:11Uncrewed systems as the broadest field for cooperationChapter
Shared uncrewed surface, subsurface, and aerial systems could patrol the enormous ocean areas faced by all four navies and perform ASW, mine, sensor, and aviation tasks.
- 2:57:31QuestionHow capable would a united British, Australian, Canadian, and New Zealand fleet be?AnswerQ&A
Very capable on paper but operationally overstretched; the viable model is independent fleets that cooperate in procurement and combine for selected wartime task groups.
- 3:04:35QuestionWere the United States and Royal navies making progress on laser air defence for killing drones?AnswerQ&A
Yes. The United States had already tested a laser at sea and Britain was planning for later ships, but neither service had funded broad installation.
- 3:06:16When defence spending does not buy current capabilityNotable Point
Headline defence expenditure can overstate money available for present forces when pensions, memorials, and other obligations are counted inside the total.
- 3:10:13Building the case for complementary military capabilitiesChapter
The choice between carriers and LHDs, crewed and uncrewed aircraft, or SSNs and SSKs is often false; services win funding by showing how complementary systems meet a strategic need.
- 3:12:38QuestionWhy not fire conventional cruise missiles from the same submarines that carry Britain's strategic nuclear deterrent?AnswerQ&A
Doing so would expose a deterrent submarine's location and create avoidable ambiguity between nuclear and conventional missions.
- 3:21:18QuestionHow can the British Army escape the equipment problems created by its traditional procurement approach?AnswerQ&A
It should sometimes accept a proven 90-percent solution such as CV90 instead of pursuing a bespoke theoretical 100-percent solution that arrives late or fails in practice.
- 3:23:26QuestionWill the Royal Navy follow Japan toward heavily automated submarines because professional manpower is scarce?AnswerQ&A
It already sits between the Japanese and American models and may reduce crews further, but probably not as far as Japan.
- 3:27:35QuestionDoes the Royal Navy dual-crew its ballistic-missile submarines to guarantee continuous deterrence?AnswerQ&A
Yes. The working scale given here is roughly six crews for four boats, keeping one submarine at sea while preserving crew recovery time.
- 3:28:06QuestionWhy suspect Taiwan might retain a nuclear capability when its earlier partners South Africa and Israel followed different paths?AnswerQ&A
There is no proof offered here, only scepticism: South Africa built and dismantled weapons and Israel is widely suspected of retaining them, so Taiwan's case should not be treated as certain either way.
- 3:29:27QuestionDoes concentrating the deterrent in SSBNs make the loss or attack of one boat dangerously dramatic?AnswerQ&A
Yes. An attack on an SSBN is treated as a strategic strike and can trigger a response, so navies devote exceptional effort to helping the boat disappear safely.
- 3:32:02QuestionHow far away are satellites from detecting submarines reliably?AnswerQ&A
The decisive threshold is a highly accurate model of ocean behaviour; only then can satellites distinguish a probable submarine from ordinary variation.