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What if the Royal Navy carried out a carrier strike against Wilhelmshaven in WWI? Patreon Live

Study What if the Royal Navy carried out a carrier strike against Wilhelmshaven in WWI? Patreon Live, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 3 Jan 2026, with 79 time notes. Topics include Aircraft Carriers, Alternate History…

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  1. 8:25
    The Cuxhaven Raid and the origins of carrier strike

    The 1914 Cuxhaven Raid shows the Royal Navy using ship-launched aircraft offensively and drawing early lessons about purpose-built carriers.

    Chapter
  2. 12:25
    The RNAS in Belgium and the recovery of downed pilots

    The Royal Naval Air Service combined coastal-front support with improvised pilot recovery while the Navy developed aviation ships.

    Notable Point
  3. 13:33
    How Fisher delayed an early purpose-built carrier

    Royal Navy design work had advanced far enough for a purpose-built carrier to be laid down in 1915, but Fisher's return disrupted the construction path.

    Notable Point
  4. 15:45
    Japanese naval aviation at Tsingtao before Cuxhaven

    Japanese seaplane operations around Tsingtao show that offensive naval aviation preceded the Royal Navy's larger Cuxhaven Raid.

    Notable Point
  5. 16:47
    QuestionDoes a First World War Short seaplane survive in Greece?Answer

    Possibly, but the identification rests on an old, poor-quality photograph and remains unconfirmed.

    Q&A
  6. 19:07
    The Sopwith Cuckoo and the planned 100-aircraft strike

    A planned Wilhelmshaven attack depended on mass-producing the Sopwith Cuckoo and assembling roughly 100 to 120 carrier torpedo bombers.

    Chapter
  7. 23:32
    Why early aerial torpedoes struggled in shallow harbors

    Early torpedoes tended to dive, bottom out, or run beneath ships, while lax nets and cold, under-crewed ships could still make Wilhelmshaven vulnerable.

    Chapter
  8. 25:25
    Why a tension wire limited torpedo-release speed

    The Swordfish's tension-wire arrangement improved shallow-water entry, but excessive aircraft speed could drag the torpedo and upset its attitude.

    Notable Point
  9. 27:46
    How harbor routines could expose German battleships

    Torpedo nets, shore accommodation and holiday staffing determine whether an apparently safe anchorage can withstand a sudden carrier raid.

    Notable Point
  10. 32:17
    Hermes, Eagle, and the Royal Navy's carrier experiments

    Hermes and Eagle emerged from years of experiments with twin islands, recovery ramps, hangar height, and landplane operations from ships.

    Chapter
  11. 36:39
    How hangar height consumed a carrier's weight allowance

    Tall early hangars gave way to lower treaty-era designs because reducing weight high in the ship also reduced the ballast needed for stability.

    Notable Point
  12. 40:37
    The torpedo arithmetic behind a 120-aircraft raid

    Royal Navy planners could derive the 100-to-120-aircraft requirement from expected torpedo failures and the hits needed to write off a German battle squadron.

    Notable Point
  13. 45:01
    Could Fisher's large light cruisers have become carriers?

    Courageous, Glorious, and Furious could have supported their shallow-water Baltic mission more effectively as aircraft carriers than as lightly protected gunships.

    Chapter
  14. 49:29
    QuestionDid First World War navies operate land-based aircraft capable of carrying torpedoes?Answer

    Yes, several nations were developing them, although most contemporary operational torpedo aircraft were still seaplanes or floatplanes.

    Q&A
  15. 50:03
    Why 9.2-inch guns suited Fisher's Baltic ships better

    A faster-firing 9.2-inch battery better matched the shallow-water cruiser threat, while 15-inch guns reflected Fisher's effort to preserve his battlecruiser concept.

    Notable Point
  16. 54:17
    QuestionWhich First World War ocean liner was most suitable for conversion into an aircraft carrier?Answer

    Liners such as the ship converted into Argus had useful speed and volume, but converting the best liners sacrificed ships that were also exceptionally valuable for moving people and cargo quickly.

    Q&A
  17. 55:11
    QuestionHow many carriers did Britain have on the eve of the Washington Naval Treaty?Answer

    Britain had Argus, Furious, several conversions and seaplane carriers, with Eagle and Hermes under construction; many counted as experimental ships under treaty rules.

    Q&A
  18. 56:43
    QuestionDid unemployed destroyer personnel supply most Royal Naval Air Service recruits?Answer

    No; naval aviators came from a more independent, opportunity-seeking part of the Royal Navy's recruiting pool rather than chiefly from displaced destroyer crews.

    Q&A
  19. 57:36
    QuestionCould a purpose-built full-flight-deck seaplane carrier use a well deck to bring its aircraft aboard?Answer

    The Royal Navy considered a stern ramp rather than a well deck, allowing a seaplane to power partway aboard before a winch completed recovery.

    Q&A
  20. 58:19
    QuestionHow effective was Max Horton as a leader and admiral?Answer

    The assessment credits Horton with efficient command while giving his predecessor much of the credit for the Western Approaches system he inherited.

    Q&A
  21. 1:01:41
    QuestionHow closely did the German Army and Navy air arms coordinate for home defence?Answer

    Very poorly; meaningful coordination between the two organizations was effectively absent.

    Q&A
  22. 1:02:00
    QuestionDo modern torpedoes still need a tension-wire system when dropped from aircraft?Answer

    They usually use parachutes, with gyroscopes and self-righting systems helping stabilize the weapon after release at higher aircraft speeds.

    Q&A
  23. 1:02:31
    QuestionDid the semi-private studies behind early Hermes concepts misdirect Admiralty money?Answer

    No; the Admiralty bought legitimate yard products while making clear that it valued promising research the Treasury could not fund directly.

    Q&A
  24. 1:03:40
    QuestionCould a Hermes built with a seaplane-oriented layout later become an amphibious assault ship?Answer

    Possibly, but only if treaty accounting placed her outside carrier tonnage; otherwise the Royal Navy would have retained her in the carrier role.

    Q&A
  25. 1:04:17
    QuestionDid the Royal Navy's 1915 shore-based carrier testing resemble modern Chinese land-carrier facilities?Answer

    The purpose was comparable, but the Royal Navy usually marked a carrier deck with pegs rather than building a concrete mockup.

    Q&A
  26. 1:04:37
    QuestionCould a torpedo bomber damage the Kiel Canal enough to close it?Answer

    A torpedo might damage a gate, but First World War weapons were small for the task and other methods promised more effect against the canal's infrastructure.

    Q&A
  27. 1:07:56
    Two plausible paths to a Wilhelmshaven carrier strike

    The counterfactual branches between accelerating the historical Cuckoo force for 1917-18 and building Courageous, Glorious, and Furious as carriers for a 1916 attack.

    Chapter
  28. 1:09:26
    How peacetime sketches mapped German naval bases

    Sketches made by British midshipmen during friendly prewar visits later gave the Royal Navy detailed maps of German naval bases.

    Notable Point
  29. 1:12:06
    How an earlier Cuckoo order could reduce production delays

    An earlier Cuckoo program gives Blackburn more time and fewer competing aircraft projects, making a 1917 strike plausible within the counterfactual.

    Notable Point
  30. 1:15:37
    Single-seat Cuckoos made navigation the key constraint

    The Cuckoo's single-seat layout makes guide aircraft and clear weather important, while immature coordination spreads a nominal single wave over time.

    Notable Point
  31. 1:19:00
    How the historical carrier force might attack Wilhelmshaven

    A late-1917 strike from five carriers could launch about 100 Cuckoos from 100 miles away and write off a German battle squadron in harbor.

    Chapter
  32. 1:25:28
    Purpose-built carriers enable a two-wave attack

    Three purpose-built carriers could carry 144 Cuckoos plus guide aircraft, divide the raid into two waves, and concentrate the second wave on damaged ships.

    Chapter
  33. 1:25:28
    Gun delays and engines behind the proposed 1916 carriers

    Building Courageous, Glorious, and Furious as carriers removes their heavy-gun installation delays, but also requires an earlier torpedo-bomber program.

    Notable Point
  34. 1:33:24
    Grand Fleet cover for the carrier strike

    The purpose-built carrier force would probably operate under battlecruiser and Grand Fleet cover in case the High Seas Fleet tried to break out.

    Notable Point
  35. 1:36:17
    A crippled High Seas Fleet opens the Baltic problem

    Heavy losses at Wilhelmshaven could force German capital ships toward Danzig and let the Royal Navy threaten the Baltic supply route with raids, cruisers, or an amphibious feint.

    Chapter
  36. 1:38:48
    QuestionWould the surviving German ships leave for foreign ports to be interned?Answer

    No. The scenario assumes withdrawal to German bases farther inside the Baltic so the remaining ships can still contest British or Russian access.

    Q&A
  37. 1:41:18
    Baltic trade as a pressure point after the raid

    Loss of German naval cover would expose the Baltic supply route to British cruisers and strengthen the pressure for peace.

    Notable Point
  38. 1:42:47
    An early naval victory reshapes peace and revolution

    If the carrier strike pushed Germany toward peace in 1917, the settlement could predate both America's full involvement and the Bolshevik seizure of power.

    Chapter
  39. 1:44:25
    Further carrier raids if Germany continues the war

    A refusal to negotiate would leave Germany facing repeated attacks on its torpedo-boat and other flotillas in harbor.

    Notable Point
  40. 1:48:31
    A shorter war changes British debt and American naval growth

    Ending the war before the heaviest 1917-18 borrowing and American shipbuilding leaves Britain stronger and the US Navy smaller and less balanced.

    Chapter
  41. 1:52:30
    Bombing U-boat docks after a carrier victory

    Exposed U-boats and ordinary docks would offer follow-up bombing targets before the construction of massive protected pens.

    Notable Point
  42. 1:53:55
    Carrier success transforms fleets, bases, and air-service politics

    A successful 1916-17 carrier strike could start a carrier race, accelerate fast task groups, harden major bases, and preserve an independent Royal Naval Air Service.

    Chapter
  43. 1:56:54
    A British-led peace creates a different interwar order

    The imagined settlement limits German maritime power, may preserve monarchies or federations, and changes the grievances that would shape a later European war.

    Chapter
  44. 2:05:36
    QuestionHow many carriers would Britain have on the eve of the Washington Naval Treaty in this scenario?Answer

    No total is given because the scenario does not expect a Washington treaty to take place.

    Q&A
  45. 2:06:18
    QuestionWould a naval treaty or a later Pacific war still happen after this early peace?Answer

    The proposed timeline omits the Washington treaty. A Pacific war remains conditional on Japan's choices, with naval expenditure and American industrial capacity shaping the alternatives.

    Q&A
  46. 2:07:53
    QuestionWould stronger British and American fleets make a UK-US war likely?Answer

    The scenario envisages competition over ship quality, with political, industrial, and professional ties cited as reasons for expecting rivalry to remain peaceful.

    Q&A
  47. 2:10:45
    How an earlier peace could change the Commonwealth and Palestine

    A shorter war may accelerate dominion self-government and could keep Britain out of the Palestine mandate, though that second outcome remains uncertain.

    Notable Point
  48. 2:13:08
    QuestionWould purpose-built Courageous-class carriers survive the Washington treaty era?Answer

    They would likely survive because the alternate timeline produces no Washington treaty, while their success drives continuing experiments with carriers and faster battleships.

    Q&A
  49. 2:16:16
    QuestionWhat effect would a successful Kettering Bug have in this scenario?Answer

    A successful weapon would encourage further experimentation in the scenario. The reply broadens to remotely controlled aircraft and boats, for which secure communications remained a major obstacle.

    Q&A
  50. 2:18:10
    QuestionWhich type of ironclad would make the most practical convoy escort against First World War surface raiders?Answer

    An ironclad frigate is the preferred starting point in this comparison because of its seakeeping. A barbette ship could also be useful against lightly armed merchant raiders.

    Q&A
  51. 2:19:13
    QuestionDid anyone try using Zeppelins or similar airships to drop torpedoes?Answer

    British and German experiments are recalled, but a high drop could break the torpedo and a large airship was unsuitable for the low approach required.

    Q&A
  52. 2:20:08
    QuestionDid poor German shipboard accommodation affect the High Seas Fleet's internment and scuttling at Scapa Flow?Answer

    It chiefly explains why so few Germans remained aboard: their battleships were not designed to house full crews for long deployments, unlike more cruise-oriented battlecruisers.

    Q&A
  53. 2:21:35
    QuestionHow well positioned were German fighters and air defences to stop the raid?Answer

    They were poorly positioned because Germany did not expect a carrier attack, while British intelligence and signals access made surprise more likely if the new carriers struck quickly.

    Q&A
  54. 2:23:48
    QuestionHow ready could cold-fired German ships be to move under steam?Answer

    They would maintain only minimal steam and light crews, and even a fully manned ship would need hours to raise enough steam to move.

    Q&A
  55. 2:25:46
    QuestionHow influential would Billy Mitchell become after a successful Royal Navy carrier strike?Answer

    The scenario gives naval aviation the celebrated victory and reduces Mitchell's European wartime experience, both of which are presented as obstacles to his independent-air-power argument.

    Q&A
  56. 2:28:28
    QuestionWould the surviving High Seas Fleet withdraw to Kiel after the Wilhelmshaven raid?Answer

    No; it would probably retreat deeper into the Baltic, most likely to Danzig, because Kiel remained too close to British attack.

    Q&A
  57. 2:28:39
    QuestionCould Handley Page O/400 bombers drop mines to disrupt recovery operations after the carrier strike?Answer

    Probably not in the proposed operation. Too few aircraft were available for the early branch, and the roughly 315-mile range estimate used here is judged inadequate for the mission.

    Q&A
  58. 2:30:39
    QuestionWould seaplane tenders join the strike or a follow-up attack?Answer

    They would more likely support the Grand Fleet with reconnaissance, then extend patrol and anti-submarine coverage into the Baltic.

    Q&A
  59. 2:31:17
    QuestionHow would four Hermes-style ships affect postwar carrier development after a successful first strike?Answer

    More carriers create more deployments, experiments, and operational experience; without treaty limits they remain until newer designs replace them on practical grounds.

    Q&A
  60. 2:33:01
    QuestionWould proving the danger of harbor accelerate oil fuel, refueling at sea, and task-group operations?Answer

    Yes; reducing dependence on concentrated bases reinforces oil-fueled mobility, underway support, and the Royal Navy's emerging view that future wars would be fought by task groups rather than one battle line.

    Q&A
  61. 2:33:40
    QuestionIf Germany sought peace after a 1916-17 raid, how quickly would Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire follow?Answer

    They would negotiate as a group because Germany sustained the alliance and neither partner could sensibly continue once Berlin chose peace.

    Q&A
  62. 2:36:08
    QuestionHow might an early end to the war affect the spread and severity of the Spanish flu pandemic?Answer

    The impact may be smaller because less-worn-down populations would enter the pandemic with better underlying health.

    Q&A
  63. 2:36:51
    QuestionWould Fisher's appetite for innovation have fast-tracked the raid had he remained First Sea Lord?Answer

    Probably not in this scenario. His competing vision and opposition to early carrier proposals work against the assumption that he would accelerate them.

    Q&A
  64. 2:38:37
    QuestionWould American forces still enter the war and would the US Marines gain their historical reputation?Answer

    The December 1916 branch envisages peace before US entry. The December 1917 branch includes American participation but ends the war before its historical battlefield contribution.

    Q&A
  65. 2:40:52
    QuestionWould Congress react differently to a proposed 1920s healthcare and social programme than to demands for better naval ships?Answer

    The reply questions whether the proposed universal programme belongs in the 1920s and uses Britain's postwar experience instead of directly comparing congressional reactions.

    Q&A
  66. 2:43:35
    QuestionWas the National Health Service founded in Wales in 1910 rather than in 1948?Answer

    No; the 1910 Welsh National Memorial Association was an important local scheme, while the nationwide NHS was founded in 1948.

    Q&A
  67. 2:45:03
    QuestionWould a wealthy American in the 1920s lobby Congress for a larger and more capable US Navy?Answer

    Dr. Alex Clarke's personal hypothetical is that he would advocate naval expansion and run for Congress on that platform.

    Q&A
  68. 2:45:26
    QuestionHow much harder would Pearl Harbor be for Japan if the US Navy had studied a successful Wilhelmshaven carrier strike?Answer

    The precedent would make weak base defences harder to justify, although the reply still allows for underfunding and leaves the particular precautions open.

    Q&A
  69. 2:46:41
    QuestionWould Finland, Poland, Czechoslovakia, and the other postwar states still emerge if peace came in 1917?Answer

    Finland might still separate, but Poland and Czechoslovakia are less likely to appear in their historical form, Austria-Hungary may federate rather than disintegrate, and Russia could remain Menshevik rather than Soviet.

    Q&A
  70. 2:47:50
    QuestionWould the US Army air arm gain more independence and aircraft production in the 1920s?Answer

    It would still seek more power, but a successful naval air campaign and the possible absence of an independent RAF would strengthen the Navy's political resistance to a separate US air service.

    Q&A
  71. 2:48:54
    QuestionDoes an early peace mean there is no Russian Revolution?Answer

    No. This branch retains a non-Bolshevik revolution but makes the October takeover less likely after peace, renewed food supplies, and a victory the government can claim.

    Q&A
  72. 2:52:22
    QuestionHow would the US Navy respond to the demonstrated threat of carrier strikes against ports?Answer

    The Navy might complete Lexington-class battlecruisers and pair fast capital ships with carriers as the ideal task group, while also improving base defence.

    Q&A
  73. 2:53:48
    QuestionCould Austria-Hungary survive economically after an early peace?Answer

    Potentially. Avoiding the final year of war makes survival more viable, although breakup remains possible and need not follow the historical borders.

    Q&A
  74. 2:54:31
    QuestionWould Britain demand temporary basing rights at Wilhelmshaven to watch Baltic trade and Russia?Answer

    No; Britain would rather dismantle Wilhelmshaven's maritime infrastructure and seek access in Russia itself if it needed to monitor or support the new government.

    Q&A
  75. 2:55:27
    QuestionWhy would a Menshevik government concede Finnish independence?Answer

    It could accept independence reluctantly to gain Finnish support and avoid fighting on several fronts, with Russian leaders hoping to reverse the concession later.

    Q&A
  76. 2:56:12
    QuestionWould Britain give Schleswig-Holstein to Denmark and reclaim Zealand?Answer

    A Schleswig-Holstein transfer is considered possible if Britain can impose it and sees a naval advantage. The Zealand proposal is rejected.

    Q&A
  77. 2:56:44
    QuestionWould an early peace produce an independent Poland?Answer

    The scenario does not expect it, because Germany and Russia would not be broken up as extensively as they were historically.

    Q&A
  78. 3:02:16
    Tactics and logistics must be designed together

    Heavy-weapon tactics require enough logistical support to sustain them, while the weapons supplied must suit the mission and the enemy.

    Notable Point
  79. 3:03:54
    Why historical counterfactuals begin with actual history

    Establishing what happened first makes it possible to examine how small decisions accumulated and narrowed later choices.

    Notable Point