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Finnish War 1808-9 (214th Anniversary of the Battle of Kuopio)
Study Finnish War 1808-9 (214th Anniversary of the Battle of Kuopio), a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 12 May 2022, with 49 time notes. Topics include Baltic Sea, Finnish War, Gustav IV Adolf.
Time notes
- 22:18A Finnish war inside the Napoleonic crisisChapter
The Finnish War grew from Russia's effort to enforce Napoleon's Continental System against Sweden and its British alliance.
- 33:00Two monarchs turn strategy into personal policyChapter
Gustav IV withheld Sweden's best troops for a projected attack on Norway while Alexander I repeatedly shifted Russia's alignment around Napoleon.
- 36:00Alexander I's changing alliances and the Holy AllianceNotable Point
Russia's alliance with Napoleon and later break over Poland preceded Alexander's campaign against revolutionary movements.
- 39:28QuestionIs this why Sweden turned to Bernadotte after the war?AnswerQ&A
Yes. The failures of Sweden's wartime leadership help explain Bernadotte's later rise to control of Sweden.
- 39:45Constitutional monarchy and accountable wartime leadershipNotable Point
A personal case for constitutional monarchy links limits on politicians' prominence with voters' power to remove leaders who send them to war.
- 41:47Two plans, one vulnerable Finnish frontierChapter
Sweden planned to yield ground and counterattack with naval support, while Russia used winter and better intelligence to isolate Finland's forts.
- 49:50The invasion begins before Sweden is readyNotable Point
A Russian force crossed into Finnish Sweden in February 1808 while Swedish command arrangements and troop concentration were still incomplete.
- 52:49Svartholm: a fortress without usable gunsChapter
Svartholm's nominal garrison concealed unusable wells, guns without carriages, poor stores, and weapons for only part of the force.
- 53:58Sveaborg's surrender costs Sweden much of its archipelago fleetNotable Point
Sveaborg's fall surrendered naval vessels and military stores along with a fortress nominally defended by 6,000 troops and 700 cannon.
- 55:57QuestionDid an earlier Swedish census find only 100,000 men when a million had been expected?AnswerQ&A
The disparity was not as large as that, although Sweden had experienced census difficulties.
- 57:30Why Napoleon's power was more than battlefield talentNotable Point
Napoleon's authority combined political power, military command, and national identity, even if some of his subordinates were more capable generals.
- 58:22Why Britain's 10,000 troops did not reinforce FinlandNotable Point
Britain sent Sir John Moore with 10,000 troops, but Swedish plans for an offensive against Zealand kept the force from serving in Finland.
- 1:02:42Sveaborg's relief deadline and conditional surrenderChapter
A conditional surrender at Sveaborg depended on relief reaching a neglected fortress through a partly frozen Baltic.
- 1:06:13Why Sveaborg's reputation exceeded its readinessNotable Point
Obsolete artillery and unfinished defences left Sveaborg unable to match its reputation as a Baltic stronghold.
- 1:10:34Gotland recovered by sea powerChapter
Russia briefly occupied Gotland, but a Swedish naval response isolated the landing force and compelled its withdrawal.
- 1:17:50Lemo's limited landing force and the troops held backNotable Point
The Lemo landing relied on a limited force while trained Swedish troops and Britain's 10,000-man expedition remained unavailable.
- 1:21:48Saumarez's British squadron enters the BalticNotable Point
Saumarez's Baltic squadron comprised ten ships of the line and seventeen smaller warships.
- 1:22:55Lemo: a contested Swedish landingChapter
At Lemo, a Swedish landing force fought a larger Russian force before withdrawing under cover of its gunboats.
- 1:26:54How brigade-sized forces can shape a theatreNotable Point
The Finnish War shows how self-sufficient forces of only a few thousand troops can decide operations in a dispersed northern theatre.
- 1:28:37QuestionWas the Royal Navy's Baltic expedition made up mainly of third rates?AnswerQ&A
Yes, mainly third rates, with a second-rate flagship recalled tentatively. That force was considered sufficient for the remaining Baltic opposition.
- 1:31:08Oravais: a hard-fought retreat under pressureChapter
The Battle of Oravais shows a Swedish army holding a defensible position before discipline, ammunition shortages, and Russian reinforcements forced a retreat.
- 1:31:52How reinforcements could have reversed Sweden's local disadvantageNotable Point
Russia's troops were dispersed across Finland, so additional British or Swedish formations could have reversed the balance in a particular battle.
- 1:42:50QuestionIf Sir John Moore had brought two-thirds of the available troops, would he have become the de facto overall commander?AnswerQ&A
Probably: a 10,000-man British force with infantry, cavalry, artillery, and its own logistics would have outweighed the roughly 5,000 Swedish troops in the field.
- 1:46:07Helsinki village and the unprotected evacuationNotable Point
At Helsinki village, a reduced Swedish landing force advanced before Russian reinforcements and the removal of its gunboat support led to a costly evacuation.
- 1:54:26Gustav IV's overthrow and the succession crisisChapter
Gustav IV's attempted abdication failed to preserve his son's succession, and Charles XIII took the throne under a new constitution.
- 1:57:40Åland's ice crossing threatens StockholmNotable Point
Russian troops crossed the ice through Åland, but negotiations halted the offensive before a final peace settlement.
- 2:03:35QuestionAre there modern equivalents to naval fortresses?AnswerQ&A
Mobile anti-ship missiles, mines, and other sea-denial weapons can perform coastal-defence roles, with drones suggested as a source of targeting information.
- 2:05:46An expeditionary army depends on maritime accessNotable Point
Aircraft carriers, amphibious ships, and protected sea lanes allow a land force to reach and sustain an overseas theatre.
- 2:09:10Sävar: sea control creates an opening ashoreChapter
At Sävar, Sweden landed 5,400 troops against a smaller Russian force, but an uphill attack turned a promising coastal manoeuvre into defeat.
- 2:13:55Ratan: naval gunfire covers a Swedish withdrawalChapter
Swedish field artillery and naval guns repelled Kamensky at Ratan after the retreat from Sävar.
- 2:15:43QuestionCould the Astute class serve as the United Kingdom's main home-defence force?AnswerQ&A
For the fleet described in May 2022, not by itself: the class was too small once boats were allocated to High North intelligence work, the South Atlantic, the Far East, and other commitments.
- 2:18:56Piteå and the cost of ignoring naval rangeNotable Point
A Swedish attempt to destroy a bridge at Piteå became a lesson in avoiding needless exposure when shipboard guns could strike from safety.
- 2:26:55The Treaty of Fredrikshamn and Finland's new statusChapter
The peace transferred Finland and Åland from Sweden to Russia, creating the Grand Duchy of Finland and shaping the later autonomy debate.
- 2:32:27A 2022 High North reinforcement conceptNotable Point
Possible Finnish and Swedish NATO membership prompted a May 2022 proposal for British brigades deployable through Norway.
- 2:34:49QuestionHow far from the Finnish border are the Russian Northern Fleet bases?AnswerQ&A
Close enough to be uncomfortable for Russia, without a specific distance given.
- 2:35:26Neglected defences weaken Finnish loyalty to SwedenNotable Point
Weak garrisons and neglected forts encouraged some Finnish aristocrats to expect Russian conquest and seek an accommodation.
- 2:37:36Maps as royal gifts and military intelligenceNotable Point
Accurate maps had become a scientific and diplomatic resource, making Sweden's poor knowledge of Finland especially difficult to excuse.
- 2:41:19London Treaty scope for a larger sloop forceNotable Point
The London Treaty system allowed a sustained sloop program that could have expanded Britain's escort fleet before the Second World War.
- 2:46:07Bernadotte reverses Sweden's coalition alignmentNotable Point
Only a few years after the Finnish War, Bernadotte aligned Sweden with Britain, Russia, and the Sixth Coalition against Napoleon.
- 2:47:03Small-warship production builds industrial depthNotable Point
A sustained sloop program could train smaller shipyards and expand ASDIC and engine production before wartime demand surged.
- 2:47:56QuestionDid British interest in new carriers and cruisers mean it had neglected the threat of another U-boat campaign?AnswerQ&A
No. Britain expected another U-boat campaign and developed escorts, but exercises encouraged confidence in ASDIC and rearmament plans expected war later.
- 2:50:19A victory that taught Russia the wrong lessonNotable Point
Success against Sweden encouraged Alexander I to believe Russia had recovered its military strength even though the campaign exposed serious logistical limits.
- 2:51:39QuestionWould HMS Queen Mary and surviving Invincible-class battlecruisers have been scrapped as obsolete in the 1920s?AnswerQ&A
Yes, although the Royal Navy might first have counted the surviving hulls in its treaty-tonnage position.
- 2:52:06War is fought with serviceable forces, not paper strengthNotable Point
Early shipboard radar and Sweden's nominal troop strength illustrate the same rule: future programs and paper establishments do not substitute for usable forces in theatre.
- 2:54:13QuestionWas ASDIC an example of ships being fitted for but not with equipment?AnswerQ&A
Only partly. Some cruisers were prepared for ASDIC but did not receive it after policy favoured fitting escorts, while corvette installations sometimes waited on the supply of sets.
- 2:56:38Planning for Japan left the wrong escort balanceNotable Point
British procurement emphasized capital ships for a likely war with Japan, then had to reconfigure when Germany and Italy produced the immediate conflict.
- 2:59:24A carrier for Force ZNotable Point
A counterfactual carrier accompanying Force Z could provide air cover and delay Japanese operations while other Allied forces assembled.
- 3:02:06Escort procurement and carrier availabilityNotable Point
A larger prewar sloop force could affect emergency construction, carrier availability, and command during the Norwegian campaign.
- 3:03:25Five months to prepare Finland's fortressesNotable Point
Sweden had five months to supply and garrison the forts on which the opening phase of its war plan depended.