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Patreon 102: Zeroes over the Med! Japan joins the Britain & Free powers on 25th of June 1940...

Study Patreon 102: Zeroes over the Med! Japan joins the Britain & Free powers on 25th of June 1940..., a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 18 Apr 2024, with 78 time notes. Topics include Allied Strategy, Alternate History…

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Time notes

  1. 1:35
    QuestionCould Japanese Zeroes appear over the Mediterranean in this scenario?Answer

    Yes, depending on when the Japanese ships sail and whether the new fighters are available to accompany them.

    Q&A
  2. 5:59
    Removing the war in China changes Japan's strategic choices

    The scenario begins by removing the Second Sino-Japanese War, weakening the chain of embargoes and confrontation that historically pushed Japan toward war with the United States.

    Chapter
  3. 13:32
    The Japanese fleet actually available in June 1940

    Carrier refits, training commitments, and unfinished capital ships sharply limit what Japan could send to Europe in June 1940.

    Chapter
  4. 18:58
    A friendly Japan releases Indian Ocean shipping

    Removing Japanese attacks in the Indian Ocean would preserve merchant capacity and ease the wartime movement of food and supplies.

    Notable Point
  5. 22:00
    QuestionDid Japan have useful coastal submarines to send to the Mediterranean?Answer

    Yes, although Allied technical upgrades would probably be needed before they could make their fullest contribution.

    Q&A
  6. 25:01
    Yonai's political route to an Allied war

    In this alternate timeline, an Allied naval war could give Yonai military success without a war against the United States.

    Notable Point
  7. 33:45
    QuestionCould a European war let Yonai send Hideki Tojo to command Japanese forces in North Africa and remove him from domestic politics?Answer

    Possibly; Yonai could present the post as a vital command for an experienced general while gaining distance from a political rival.

    Q&A
  8. 38:18
    Churchill would distribute Japanese strength across several fleets

    Britain's first problem would be using Japanese help without overcrowding the Mediterranean or neglecting the Atlantic, Commonwealth politics, and American relations.

    Chapter
  9. 46:04
    Japanese industry could reduce Britain's dependence on American aid

    Japanese factories supplied with imperial raw materials would give Britain another source of equipment and complicate American pressure on the alliance.

    Notable Point
  10. 48:23
    QuestionWould Churchill offer the United States responsibility for Iceland in this scenario?Answer

    The historical arrangements already moved in that direction: British and Canadian forces preceded an American takeover in 1941, before US entry into the war.

    Q&A
  11. 49:49
    A Japanese cruiser alongside Sydney could change a raider encounter

    Joint cruiser patrols could make a historically fatal lone-ship encounter much harder for an Axis raider.

    Notable Point
  12. 51:38
    QuestionDid the United States get its radar technology from Britain?Answer

    British research gave American radar development a substantial boost, but the United States already had its own research and useful ideas. Wartime cooperation combined the two programmes.

    Q&A
  13. 52:43
    Alliance replaces the Japanese threat to Australia and New Zealand

    Japanese entry on Britain's side would improve Pacific security, create food-export opportunities, and give Australian and New Zealand industries more time to develop.

    Notable Point
  14. 55:05
    Canada would worry about the American reaction

    An Anglo-Japanese alliance could unsettle Canada because worsening American relations threatened devastation even without an American conquest.

    Notable Point
  15. 58:29
    Japan's entry could pull the United States toward a naval war

    American leaders would have to weigh isolationism against the danger of Britain and Japan winning the war, sharing technology, and writing the peace without the United States.

    Chapter
  16. 1:06:03
    QuestionDid the British establishment view Japan in the same way as the American establishment?Answer

    Not uniformly: prejudice existed, but long naval and diplomatic contact gave many British officials a more nuanced perspective.

    Q&A
  17. 1:10:34
    Chile could add its battleship to the coalition

    An expanded coalition could attract Chile and other neutral states.

    Notable Point
  18. 1:11:40
    Japan's declaration complicates Axis access to supplies and the French fleet

    Germany loses Japanese trade while Italy anticipates reinforcement of the Mediterranean Fleet, but an immediate Axis seizure of French ships could drive Vichy forces back into the war.

    Chapter
  19. 1:13:17
    Imperial endorsement could weaken Japan's pro-German faction

    Yonai could present support for Britain as loyalty to a fellow monarch, making resistance to the alliance harder for Japanese nationalists.

    Notable Point
  20. 1:19:07
    QuestionWould Britain send royal officers to Japanese postings to help integrate Imperial Japanese Navy commanders with the Royal Navy?Answer

    No. The First World War alliance worked without special royal postings, and royal connections would remain a matter of strategy and political justification.

    Q&A
  21. 1:24:18
    Japanese pilots could reinforce the Battle of Britain first

    Sending trained Japanese aircrew to fly British aircraft would deliver combat power faster than transporting complete Japanese air units to Europe.

    Notable Point
  22. 1:31:27
    What Japan could send first

    Japan could distribute its ready carrier and fast capital ships between the Mediterranean, Force H, and Scapa Flow while preparing later reinforcements.

    Chapter
  23. 1:34:56
    Tōne and Chikuma fit ocean raider hunting

    The Tōne-class cruisers' aircraft would be more useful searching ocean routes for raiders than operating under Mediterranean land-based air attack.

    Notable Point
  24. 1:35:45
    QuestionCould Japan use its free manpower and resources to commission ships faster?Answer

    No. Japan was already putting the available resources into these ships and building them as quickly as it could.

    Q&A
  25. 1:40:19
    Japanese participation would complicate the occupation of Persia

    Britain would have little reason to add Japanese forces to an occupation shared with the Soviet Union.

    Notable Point
  26. 1:40:59
    Japanese tanks could be tested in North Africa

    North Africa could provide a combat testing ground for Japanese tanks that would otherwise remain at home.

    Notable Point
  27. 1:41:31
    QuestionWould Japanese pilots travel to Britain through Canada?Answer

    Most would probably sail around Africa to Britain. A small party could travel through Canada for the political value of the visit.

    Q&A
  28. 1:44:24
    QuestionCould Yamato join the fast battleships hunting Bismarck?Answer

    No. Yamato commissioned too late and her roughly 27-knot speed fell below the 28-knot cutoff used here for the fast-battleship group.

    Q&A
  29. 1:48:24
    Nagato and Mutsu could reinforce Cape Matapan

    If Japan's older capital ships completed their preparations by March 1941, they could join the British battleships that historically fought the Italian fleet at Cape Matapan.

    Notable Point
  30. 1:49:58
    Stalin must choose between neutrality and a seat at the peace table

    A renewed Anglo-Japanese alliance would leave Stalin watching deployments while weighing whether neutrality, the Axis, or the Allies best protects the Soviet Union.

    Chapter
  31. 1:53:48
    QuestionWould the Allies have to cooperate with Stalin if he joined their war?Answer

    They would face the problem of explaining why they refused to work with a state that had joined their war and sent representatives.

    Q&A
  32. 1:54:45
    QuestionWould Kantai Kessen, Japan's decisive-battle doctrine, shape Allied tactics in Europe?Answer

    Not directly. Japanese units would enter an established British command system, while the doctrine's attritional elements fit European operations better than its final battle near Japan.

    Q&A
  33. 1:56:45
    QuestionWould Japan's entry change the choices of smaller states such as Portugal or Finland?Answer

    Probably not for Portugal or Finland, whose immediate Spanish and Soviet security problems would still dominate their policies.

    Q&A
  34. 1:58:37
    QuestionWould the Allies give Japan better anti-aircraft guns?Answer

    Mediterranean experience could change Japanese thinking about anti-aircraft guns, though no particular replacement is specified.

    Q&A
  35. 1:59:09
    Fleet movement and joint command take months

    Weeks of movement and months of joint preparation would separate Japan's declaration from its effective participation in Allied operations.

    Notable Point
  36. 2:00:26
    QuestionWould Japanese intervention prevent Germany's invasion of Yugoslavia?Answer

    The invasion would remain plausible because Hitler could see territorial expansion as a way to strengthen Germany against the enlarged coalition.

    Q&A
  37. 2:00:58
    QuestionWould Japanese troops go directly to Greece?Answer

    A North African deployment is more plausible initially, since newly arrived Japanese troops would need time to train and integrate.

    Q&A
  38. 2:01:55
    QuestionWould the French colonies join Vichy or the Free French after Japan entered the Allied war?Answer

    It would depend on each colony's leaders, information, and timing; Asian colonies might lean Free French to avoid Japanese intervention.

    Q&A
  39. 2:02:38
    QuestionCould Indian mountain troops be sent to Greece?Answer

    Troops from mountainous regions of northern India could be suitable, but organising their deployment in time would be difficult.

    Q&A
  40. 2:04:23
    A third carrier changes the Mediterranean rhythm

    Sōryū could give the Mediterranean Fleet a third carrier for training, air defence, and maintenance flexibility before major raids.

    Notable Point
  41. 2:06:50
    Operation MB8 could help redistribute Japanese ships

    Large Mediterranean operations could combine reinforcement with transfers to Force H and the Home Fleet.

    Notable Point
  42. 2:09:32
    QuestionHow many British ships would Japan's entry release from the Far East?Answer

    Relatively few British ships would be released at this date, while the reduction in Australian and New Zealand concerns would be more significant.

    Q&A
  43. 2:10:26
    QuestionCould alliance with Britain produce a Japanese decolonisation movement by 1944?Answer

    No rapid transformation is likely; Japan was not at the same stage as Britain's evolving empire and Commonwealth.

    Q&A
  44. 2:11:23
    QuestionWould the deployed Japanese carriers operate A6M Zeroes or A5M Claudes in 1940?Answer

    The fleet mostly had Claudes, but Japan could concentrate enough early Zeroes on the two carriers sent west.

    Q&A
  45. 2:12:56
    The aircraft available for an enlarged Taranto strike

    The proposed strike force depends on the aircraft that each navy could supply at the scenario's date.

    Notable Point
  46. 2:14:34
    QuestionWould Admiral Yamamoto command the Japanese forces sent to Europe?Answer

    Probably not at sea; his seniority and British connections make a strategic liaison role in Britain more plausible.

    Q&A
  47. 2:17:08
    A Taranto raid with a dawn follow-up

    The alternate timeline pairs the historical Swordfish night attack with a possible Japanese or American dawn strike on the damaged Italian fleet.

    Notable Point
  48. 2:19:46
    QuestionCould Tanaka command Japan's Mediterranean contingent?Answer

    He would be too junior in 1940 for the proposed post.

    Q&A
  49. 2:20:39
    The proposed Helldiver is the earlier SBC biplane

    The shared Helldiver name can obscure which American dive bomber belongs in the proposed 1940 air group.

    Notable Point
  50. 2:26:02
    A shattered battlefleet could force Italy out of the war

    If Taranto destroys Italy's ability to supply North Africa, defeats ashore could remove Mussolini and release Allied naval strength for the Atlantic months earlier.

    Chapter
  51. 2:30:04
    Extra fighters could change Illustrious's air defence

    Zeroes and possible Wildcats could relieve the Fulmars while Allied crews learned British fighter control.

    Notable Point
  52. 2:31:24
    QuestionCould Japanese ships join the fighting at Narvik?Answer

    No. The proposed Japanese declaration comes after the Norwegian campaign's conclusion, and deployment would take additional time.

    Q&A
  53. 2:33:51
    Japanese reinforcements could frustrate Operation Berlin

    Japanese reinforcements could give Force H and the Home Fleet more fast ships and carriers for containing German surface raiders.

    Chapter
  54. 2:39:20
    Why Wilhelmshaven was not a second Taranto

    Even a much larger Allied carrier force would not make a Taranto-style strike on Germany's fleet an equally practical operation.

    Notable Point
  55. 2:40:22
    QuestionCould the United States rush the North Carolina-class battleships into service?Answer

    Only marginally, if at all; their historical post-launch completion was already very fast for battleships.

    Q&A
  56. 2:41:21
    Waiting for Bismarck could close Germany's raiding opportunity

    German planners would have to choose between risking Scharnhorst and Gneisenau early and waiting until Italy's defeat released more Allied ships.

    Notable Point
  57. 2:42:38
    QuestionWould the enlarged Allied carrier force cause Germany to finish Graf Zeppelin?Answer

    Germany might push the project harder, but it still lacks the resources and imported materials to make the carrier operational in time.

    Q&A
  58. 2:46:44
    An Italian change of sides could open a route into France

    If Italy joined the Allies, its occupied French territory could provide a landing area for an advance before the Atlantic Wall existed.

    Notable Point
  59. 2:48:10
    QuestionWould Japanese reinforcements let Hood enter refit?Answer

    Possibly. More fast capital ships could cover Hood's absence, although Britain could also postpone refits until the German surface threat had been defeated.

    Q&A
  60. 2:50:44
    An Italian collapse could leave Germany's fleet in port

    Released Mediterranean forces and Japanese reinforcements could make a German surface sortie unattractive.

    Notable Point
  61. 2:53:12
    Joint combat could improve Japanese radar and night fighting

    British cooperation could improve Japanese radar production and night operations, while Japanese ships might receive ASDIC.

    Notable Point
  62. 2:56:03
    Italy's defeat could leave Germany isolated

    An Italian collapse, concentrated Allied power, and possible American and Soviet entry could leave Germany surrounded and make a military removal of Hitler plausible in 1941.

    Chapter
  63. 3:00:22
    Yamato could prompt another generation of battleships

    Yamato, Musashi, and possibly a battleship Shinano would give other navies a reason to build new capital ships after an early peace.

    Notable Point
  64. 3:04:10
    QuestionHow might this war change the carriers designed afterward?Answer

    Mediterranean damage experience could push Japan and the United States toward British-style armoured flight decks.

    Q&A
  65. 3:05:55
    A shorter war would leave Britain stronger at the peace table

    An early peace would preserve more British resources while leaving difficult decisions about Germany and Soviet-held Poland.

    Chapter
  66. 3:08:55
    Avoiding war with Japan would strengthen Chiang Kai-shek

    Chiang Kai-shek could face the Chinese Communists with stronger forces and possible Japanese, British, and American support.

    Notable Point
  67. 3:10:50
    QuestionWould fighting beside Britain change Japanese treatment of prisoners and occupied populations?Answer

    It probably would moderate practice, especially where prisoners were held jointly, though it would not automatically erase underlying attitudes.

    Q&A
  68. 3:12:14
    Japan could replace the Soviet Union at the Allied leaders' table

    A victorious coalition could bring Yonai together with Roosevelt and Churchill, with monarchs involved to demonstrate Japan's standing.

    Notable Point
  69. 3:13:18
    QuestionCould Stalin attack the Japanese home islands while major Japanese ships were serving in Europe?Answer

    No credible naval invasion was available, and only part of Japan's fleet would have left home waters.

    Q&A
  70. 3:14:50
    QuestionCould Japan attack the Soviet Far East after Germany's defeat?Answer

    Japan could act with the United States while Britain and European allies threatened the Soviet Union from the west. That danger might compel Stalin to relinquish eastern Poland.

    Q&A
  71. 3:16:23
    QuestionWould a 15-inch Vanguard class still be built if the N3 and G3 classes existed?Answer

    No. A 15-inch Vanguard class is rejected if the N3 and G3 designs have been built, regardless of its displacement.

    Q&A
  72. 3:16:49
    QuestionIf Germany surrendered before its capital ships were sunk, where would the Royal Navy order them to go?Answer

    Probably Scapa Flow.

    Q&A
  73. 3:17:12
    QuestionWould a shorter war preserve shipping for India's food supply?Answer

    Yes. A shorter war without a Japanese threat would leave more shipping available to move food around India.

    Q&A
  74. 3:17:28
    QuestionWhere would India stand in this scenario?Answer

    India would remain part of the British Empire, with the Indian Army probably heavily involved across the coalition's campaigns.

    Q&A
  75. 3:18:45
    QuestionWould cruisers receive guns larger than 12 inches if battleship guns grew larger?Answer

    No; cruiser numbers and logistical support impose a practical ceiling that battleship gun growth does not remove.

    Q&A
  76. 3:19:39
    QuestionWhat would navies look like in the 1950s after this shorter war?Answer

    Jets and angled-deck carriers would still develop, but new fast battleships could remain central to task groups into the 1960s and perhaps serve into the 1970s or 1980s.

    Q&A
  77. 3:22:39
    QuestionHow would an early end to the war affect missile development?Answer

    Rocket and missile adoption would probably slow because dive bombers remained useful and no long war forced immature technologies rapidly into service.

    Q&A
  78. 3:28:03
    British reserve fighters could equip Japanese pilots

    Reserve aircraft and the Spitfire's handling could help trained Japanese pilots contribute to the Battle of Britain.

    Notable Point