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#2Historians Live: With @Drachinifel comes to chat & build UAD Dreadnoughts that Almost were P3

Study #2Historians Live: With @Drachinifel comes to chat & build UAD Dreadnoughts that Almost were P3, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 17 Sept 2025, with 50 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Battleships, Naval…

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  1. 6:20
    A Royal Navy answer to Japan's Number 13 class

    A simulated British response to Japan's Number 13 design tests whether twelve 18-inch guns, 33 knots, and heavy protection can fit within 58,000 tons.

    Chapter
  2. 12:16
    QuestionHow far could a dreadnought hull be upgraded with Aegis, helicopter facilities, and VLS?Answer

    Extensive reconstruction could make it possible, but gun blast, power demand, internal obstructions, and shipyard requirements make the practical case doubtful.

    Q&A
  3. 19:03
    Where to put extra generators during a dreadnought refit

    A generator on deck avoids difficult access below, but noise, blast, and heat complicate that apparently simple refit option.

    Notable Point
  4. 20:36
    Why empty VLS weight does not determine a battleship conversion

    Turret removal creates space for missiles, but internal layout and the difference between empty launchers and a complete installation still matter.

    Notable Point
  5. 25:35
    An antiaircraft secondary battery for the Number 13 response

    Ten twin 4-inch mounts and simulated pom-poms give the British design a heavy antiaircraft fit while armor weight favors the main armament over the conning tower.

    Notable Point
  6. 32:08
    Italy's 1929 answer to the Nelson class

    A simulated Italian answer to Nelson combines 381 mm guns and 30 knots within 35,000 tons, then exposes compromises in secondary mounting and fire control.

    Chapter
  7. 48:58
    QuestionHow sensitive would torpedoes of this era be to the concussive shock of the battleship's own guns?Answer

    Their shock tolerance is not quantified. The proposed response is to fire the exposed torpedoes early, before repeated main-gun fire over the launchers.

    Q&A
  8. 53:23
    Twelve main guns with only one fire-control center

    The Italian design's heavy battery depends on one vulnerable fire-control center, while its bridge also has an obstructed view.

    Notable Point
  9. 54:44
    An 80,000-ton American Pacific battleship

    Two 1940 game designs use an 80,000-ton allowance for either twenty 16-inch guns or twelve 18-inch guns, with Pacific range and enlarged canal locks shaping the hull.

    Chapter
  10. 1:04:44
    QuestionMust the proposed 80,000-ton American fast battleship adhere to Panamax dimensions?Answer

    No; the exercise assumes the intended expanded locks associated with Montana planning, allowing a beam wider than Iowa's.

    Q&A
  11. 1:07:29
    QuestionHow did an early American battleship feed an 8-inch turret mounted directly above a 12-inch turret?Answer

    Two additional ammunition hoists are recalled as passing through the lower 12-inch mount to supply the upper 8-inch turret.

    Q&A
  12. 1:14:38
    A British rival for the Kongo contract

    A hypothetical British competitor for Japan's Kongo contract compares a ten-gun battlecruiser with a twelve-gun alternative carrying very light secondaries.

    Chapter
  13. 1:26:01
    Judging South Dakota's electrical system by 1940s practice

    South Dakota's electrical distribution deserves examination against contemporary engineering practice and the control systems available in the 1940s.

    Notable Point
  14. 1:27:53
    QuestionWhy would circuits on the same South Dakota-class switchboard be labeled 440 volts and 450 volts?Answer

    The cause is unresolved. Suggested explanations involve transformer or alternator taps, a winding error, or a deliberate requirement for a higher-voltage circuit.

    Q&A
  15. 1:29:32
    HMS Belfast's clutch and its 200 rpm operating warning

    A recalled machinery photograph places a clutch aboard a geared-turbine warship and records its operating-speed restriction.

    Notable Point
  16. 1:37:17
    German and British 90,000-ton fast battleships

    Two hypothetical 90,000-ton battleships converge on sixteen 16.5-inch guns but favor different protection schemes and engagement ranges.

    Chapter
  17. 1:39:29
    QuestionWhy did the German midget submarine have tracks, and were they intended for climbing over reefs?Answer

    The tentatively recalled purpose was to use launch ramps, reach maintenance buildings, and move between waterways over land.

    Q&A
  18. 1:41:59
    Rocket-assisted Tallboy as an answer to giant battleships

    The rocket-assisted Tallboy proposal adds eight RP-3 rockets to a heavy bomb to increase impact speed and penetration.

    Notable Point
  19. 1:44:17
    T12 Cloudmaker and the limits of giant bomb carriage

    The T12 Cloudmaker and a two-Grand-Slam B-29 configuration illustrate the modifications associated with exceptionally large bunker-busting bombs.

    Notable Point
  20. 1:46:50
    QuestionHow many Grand Slam-size bombs could a B-52 or B-2 carry?Answer

    Perhaps three for a B-52 and one or two for a B-2, as a rough estimate based mainly on physical space.

    Q&A
  21. 1:47:40
    A Boeing 747 with rotary cruise-missile launchers

    A recalled proposal would replace a 747's passenger accommodation with four twelve-shot rotary cruise-missile launchers.

    Notable Point
  22. 1:51:35
    From Vulcan B3 studies to a Concorde bomber

    A disputed Vulcan B3 performance claim leads into a counterfactual Concorde bomber with rotating missile bays and a fast approach-and-withdrawal concept.

    Notable Point
  23. 1:54:58
    QuestionWhy does the German 90,000-ton design use 16.5-inch guns in quadruple turrets?Answer

    The caliber is linked to remembered H-class studies, while the game model's oversized twin 18-inch and 20-inch mounts drive the quadruple 16.5-inch layout.

    Q&A
  24. 2:01:20
    An Austro-Hungarian wing-turret challenge

    A 1920s design challenge forces same-caliber wing and centerline turrets into an Austro-Hungarian capital ship.

    Chapter
  25. 2:10:29
    QuestionWhat are Drachinifel's and Dr. Clarke's favorite US Navy dreadnoughts or battleships?Answer

    Drachinifel chooses the New Mexico class; Dr. Clarke chooses the as-built South Dakota class, while also appreciating the 1920s design.

    Q&A
  26. 2:11:22
    QuestionHow might an R-class-style, more economical variant of HMS Vanguard have measured up during the Second World War?Answer

    As a smaller mobilization Vanguard retaining the 15-inch battery, with ten twin 4.5-inch mounts and roughly 28 knots instead of the full ship's higher speed and complexity.

    Q&A
  27. 2:17:08
    Alternative designs for HMS Agincourt

    Competing Agincourt alternatives explore triple 15-inch guns and twin 18-inch guns under counterfactual British technology assumptions.

    Chapter
  28. 2:21:55
    QuestionIf the Royal Navy adopted the proposed Type 83 concept, what should the class be called?Answer

    Duke of Edinburgh class, with Princess Royal among the possible ship names.

    Q&A
  29. 2:25:56
    QuestionCould a Swedish coastal-defence battleship of the same era have a chance against Hoche?Answer

    Yes, but no Swedish class is identified and the later claim that Hoche could defeat Sweden's leading ships remains disputed.

    Q&A
  30. 2:26:13
    QuestionDoes the Venator-class Star Destroyer count as an actual carrier?Answer

    Yes, as a battlecarrier: it combines carrier aviation with capital-ship gun power rather than serving as a single-purpose flight-deck ship.

    Q&A
  31. 2:28:00
    QuestionDo Battlestars such as Galactica count as battlecarriers?Answer

    Opinions differ: one view accepts the battlecarrier label, while the stricter view calls Galactica a heavily armed carrier because she lacks a distinct main gun battery.

    Q&A
  32. 2:31:51
    QuestionWhat was the maximum thickness British foundries could forge for battleship belt armor in this era?Answer

    About 16 inches, comparable to the maximum thickness used for turret armor.

    Q&A
  33. 2:32:52
    Why consider 18-inch guns for the unbuilt Agincourt?

    A proposed connection between British 18-inch gun development and Agincourt's cancellation supports one interpretation of her intended armament.

    Notable Point
  34. 2:37:30
    Why an archived warship design may never have been intended for construction

    Nelson's many proposed refits tested affordability and supported arguments against proposals as well as preparing ships for construction.

    Notable Point
  35. 2:41:04
    QuestionWhat is the largest technologically contemporary ship Hoche could take on and defeat?Answer

    Earlier central-battery and barbette ironclads are credible opponents; early Whitehead torpedoes create only a remote chance against much larger ships.

    Q&A
  36. 2:46:09
    A deliberately weak Manchurian battleship

    A 1940 Japanese yard must build a prestigious-looking battleship for a Chinese client state without creating a threat to Japan.

    Chapter
  37. 2:52:51
    QuestionCould the hypothetical Manchurian battleship be coal-fired?Answer

    Yes, and coal is recommended because Manchuria has substantial local deposits.

    Q&A
  38. 2:57:46
    An impressive battleship designed to be unmanageable

    A deliberately unreliable game design combines an intimidating battery with machinery, protection, and supply demands intended to overwhelm its recipient.

    Notable Point
  39. 3:02:26
    A 35,000-ton ship Japan might underestimate

    A modest coal-fired design could look inferior to Japan while offering Manchukuo usable firepower and easier port access.

    Notable Point
  40. 3:04:57
    Designing for Chinese cruisers and local maintenance

    A 24-knot game design trades international competitiveness for firepower, port access, and machinery suited to its intended regional opponent.

    Notable Point
  41. 3:09:12
    A client battleship still needs somewhere to dock

    The judges disagree over whether port access or deliberate unreliability should decide the client-state challenge.

    Notable Point
  42. 3:14:03
    An early-1930s USS Constitution battlecruiser

    A 1932 game-design brief combines the Constitution name with a 30,000-33,000-ton limit and a fast capital-ship role.

    Chapter
  43. 3:14:52
    QuestionHow should USS Indiana BB-1 be rated as a first American battleship effort?Answer

    A good first effort despite important flaws, especially when measured against the US Navy's rapid transition from monitors rather than mature foreign designs.

    Q&A
  44. 3:17:33
    QuestionDid the US Navy have difficulty operating jet aircraft from straight-deck carriers?Answer

    Not fundamentally; straight decks operated jets successfully, while angled decks solved landing-speed, safety, and sortie-rate problems.

    Q&A
  45. 3:21:36
    QuestionWas the development of modern naval warfare mostly set in stone, or could it have evolved differently?Answer

    It was highly contingent; different wars, treaty timing, capital-ship programs, and carrier development could have produced very different fleets and doctrine.

    Q&A
  46. 3:24:36
    Reading history through the choices available at the time

    Historical explanation requires attention to unrealized options and contemporary constraints, as well as the path events ultimately took.

    Notable Point
  47. 3:30:20
    A fast Tennessee with space for a flagship staff

    A game design combines Tennessee-type main guns and 33 knots, then sacrifices some secondary armament for flagship accommodation.

    Notable Point
  48. 3:33:01
    Extra protection and disputed antiaircraft equipment

    Two similar game battlecruisers differ in protection and antiaircraft fit, with period suitability raised during their comparison.

    Notable Point
  49. 3:35:59
    A conservative Constitution built from mature weapons

    A third entrant trades twelve-gun firepower for an eight-gun battery and existing single 5-inch/38 mounts that could reach service with less development risk.

    Notable Point
  50. 3:39:30
    Choosing between flagship space and extra armor

    Similar twelve-gun battlecruisers offer a choice between extra armor and growth margin or roomier flagship accommodation.

    Notable Point