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WWI delayed by six years? What would the Navies look like? (Patreon Alternate History)

Study WWI delayed by six years? What would the Navies look like? (Patreon Alternate History), a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 9 Jul 2026, with 90 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Fast Battleships, Imperial…

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  1. 3:55
    A six-year delay and the next British fast battleship

    The scenario begins with a delayed July Crisis and a proposed 28-knot successor to the Queen Elizabeth class, possibly armed with 18-inch guns.

    Chapter
  2. 6:10
    QuestionWould German fear of Russian mobilization reforms make a six-year delay implausible?Answer

    German planners felt time pressure, but they still wanted a defensible crisis; rapid Anglo-French financial coercion could plausibly have forced another retreat.

    Q&A
  3. 9:04
    Why the July Crisis escaped political control

    A tour of Europe's domestic crises explains delayed diplomatic attention, while Belgium and the Channel emerge as decisive triggers for British intervention.

    Chapter
  4. 26:14
    Why war plans are not evidence that leaders wanted war

    Military staffs prepare logistics and contingency plans against even friendly powers; having a plan does not mean political leaders intend to use it.

    Notable Point
  5. 33:23
    Britain had already won the quantitative naval race

    British capital-ship construction from 1912 to 1914 had overwhelmed Germany's program, shifting future competition away from numbers.

    Notable Point
  6. 40:04
    The international technology race behind the dreadnoughts

    A qualitative arms race linked Britain, the United States, Japan, Italy, and Austria-Hungary through shared turbines, engineers, fire control, and gun technology.

    Chapter
  7. 46:59
    Why a few exceptional battleships posed a different threat

    A small number of prestige ships could be tolerated more easily than a building program threatening an opponent's ability to win a war.

    Notable Point
  8. 49:40
    QuestionWas Vickers excluded from Japanese naval contracts?Answer

    The explanation offered is that Vickers' British operation avoided competing against Japanese yards it helped run.

    Q&A
  9. 51:11
    The plausible off-ramp from war in 1914

    Earlier Anglo-French attention and an Agadir-style financial shock provide the scenario's narrow route to peace.

    Notable Point
  10. 1:01:57
    QuestionWhat would the Norwegian Navy look like by 1920 if the war were delayed?Answer

    It would receive its two British-built monitors and might add more coastal-defense ships, probably from Britain.

    Q&A
  11. 1:02:30
    Salamis and the opportunity to inspect German shipbuilding

    Greece's German battleship order offered a possible opportunity for the British admiral advising its navy to examine German construction.

    Notable Point
  12. 1:04:00
    QuestionWould immediate Dutch capitulation have materially changed the Battle of Britain?Answer

    Not much; Germany would save some resources, but Britain's integrated air-defense system and home-territory advantage would remain.

    Q&A
  13. 1:05:09
    QuestionWould the Ottoman Empire still join a world war delayed to 1920?Answer

    It cannot be assumed; a 1920 war would likely begin from a different crisis and change which states joined and why.

    Q&A
  14. 1:05:49
    QuestionWhat would Ireland's status be by 1920 if the First World War were delayed?Answer

    Probably some form of Dominion-level status, though the precise political route remains uncertain.

    Q&A
  15. 1:06:06
    QuestionWould Russia still have a tsar in 1920 without the First World War?Answer

    Probably, because the regime retains its reliable forces and Lenin is not returned through Germany under wartime conditions.

    Q&A
  16. 1:06:49
    QuestionWho would be president of the United States in 1920 if the First World War were delayed?Answer

    It cannot be projected confidently; Wilson historically served until March 1921, but the missing war would change the political path that kept him in office.

    Q&A
  17. 1:07:55
    QuestionWould a British 16- or 18-inch-gun battleship carry secondary guns of eight inches or larger?Answer

    No; British preference would remain a six-inch secondary battery.

    Q&A
  18. 1:08:04
    QuestionHow strongly would Germany reinforce Qingdao and the East Asia Squadron by 1920?Answer

    Germany could either withdraw or reinforce, but prestige makes one or two older coal-fired battlecruisers a plausible commitment.

    Q&A
  19. 1:09:57
    QuestionWas the proposed small-tube-boiler ship intended to replace the older 12-inch-gun capital ships?Answer

    It was a trial for the next generation rather than a direct replacement itself; success at about 28 knots could remove the need for separate battleship and battlecruiser types.

    Q&A
  20. 1:10:45
    QuestionHow large would Japan's shipbuilding industry be by 1920?Answer

    About as large as its historical growth path produced, with a broadly similar building pace.

    Q&A
  21. 1:11:06
    QuestionHow far might the South American naval arms race continue by 1920?Answer

    It could enter another round once Chile receives both Almirante Latorre-class battleships, encouraging Brazilian and Argentine responses.

    Q&A
  22. 1:13:01
    QuestionCould Brazil afford another naval arms race after its economic downturn?Answer

    Brazil's economic weakness would constrain spending, but fear that stronger neighbors could take over still encouraged naval competition.

    Q&A
  23. 1:13:23
    QuestionWould major navies have converted to oil fuel by 1920?Answer

    Probably; oil conversion is one of the scenario's most likely major technological changes.

    Q&A
  24. 1:13:30
    QuestionWould Winston Churchill still have a government job in 1920 if the war were delayed?Answer

    Probably, though a Conservative government could instead leave him in opposition.

    Q&A
  25. 1:13:52
    QuestionHow would a delayed war affect Japan's position in China?Answer

    Japan would not gain Qingdao through the 1914 campaign, leaving it in a weaker and more constrained position in China.

    Q&A
  26. 1:14:46
    QuestionCould Canada build battlecruisers using older British guns?Answer

    Probably not as a domestic class, but Canada could still end up operating a capital ship.

    Q&A
  27. 1:14:56
    QuestionWould Alfred von Tirpitz leave power after 1914 in this timeline?Answer

    Yes; German naval policy would probably move in a Holtzendorff-influenced direction.

    Q&A
  28. 1:15:19
    QuestionCould the United States field an Iowa-like 30-to-33-knot battleship with nine 16-inch guns by 1920?Answer

    Potentially, if Iowa-like means nine 16-inch guns and 30-to-33-knot speed rather than the exact historical Iowa design.

    Q&A
  29. 1:16:05
    QuestionWould a Russian revolution occur before 1920 if the war were delayed?Answer

    It is considered unlikely because the regime would retain stronger forces of repression, while reforms might have time to reduce unrest.

    Q&A
  30. 1:16:26
    QuestionWhat effect would a major Royal Navy exercise in the North Sea during mid-July have had?Answer

    It would have demonstrated British readiness and could have reinforced financial pressure for de-escalation.

    Q&A
  31. 1:17:37
    QuestionWhat made the Bayern class inferior to the Queen Elizabeth class?Answer

    The premise is misleading: Bayern was a strong line battleship comparable to Revenge, while Queen Elizabeth paid for extra speed and future growth space.

    Q&A
  32. 1:19:49
    QuestionWhat would the Royal Navy operate at Weihaiwei in 1927?Answer

    Probably large cruisers, with Australia providing the region's capital-ship presence.

    Q&A
  33. 1:20:00
    QuestionWhat is the balance of power between Austria-Hungary's army and navy?Answer

    The army is politically stronger and better funded, while the navy does more to integrate the empire's peoples.

    Q&A
  34. 1:21:14
    Battleship armor coverage versus battlecruiser speed

    Armor coverage, subdivision, and tactical role place battleships, fast battleships, and battlecruisers on a spectrum rather than in two simple categories.

    Chapter
  35. 1:26:54
    Hood's protection and the need to maneuver

    Hood's added protection did not remove the importance of maneuver, prompting a criticism of British handling at Denmark Strait.

    Notable Point
  36. 1:29:20
    The Italian ship that forces every battle line to accelerate

    Four 28-knot Italian fast battleships would compel France, Britain, Japan, and eventually the United States to abandon 21-knot battle lines.

    Chapter
  37. 1:35:19
    Why the next battleship speed step could be 28 knots

    Hull form, displacement, and machinery output help explain a jump from 21-23 knots to roughly 28-30 knots.

    Notable Point
  38. 1:36:40
    Austria-Hungary's compact fleet for the Adriatic

    Heavy protection, high-rate 14-inch fire, capable light forces, submarines, and multilingual crews produce a balanced fleet tailored to confined Adriatic waters.

    Chapter
  39. 1:42:19
    Why mine warfare rewards one lucky weapon

    Minefields impose a lopsided risk: sweepers and ships must succeed repeatedly, while one surviving mine can disable a capital ship.

    Notable Point
  40. 1:44:47
    France's six-year race to recover from Jeune Ecole disruption

    France begins behind in heavy-gun metallurgy and speed, but two further design generations could yield true quadruple turrets, 15-inch guns, and a 28-knot response.

    Chapter
  41. 1:52:59
    QuestionCould two double-twin turrets be lighter than a three-by-three main-battery arrangement?Answer

    The answer rejects the proposed weight saving: the French double-twin mounting is not lighter than a triple turret.

    Q&A
  42. 1:55:41
    Russian capital ships assembled an international technology mix

    Russian designs could combine French hulls and boilers, Italian guns and fire control, and British machinery and turret work rather than one self-contained national solution.

    Notable Point
  43. 1:55:41
    Japan's Eight-Eight Fleet and the reconnaissance carrier

    A healthier prewar economy could sustain Japan's Eight-Eight Fleet while reconnaissance needs push the navy toward an early aircraft carrier.

    Chapter
  44. 1:57:10
    German battlecruisers depended on British machinery

    The prewar technology network left German battlecruisers reliant on Parsons machinery and vulnerable to wartime spare-parts shortages.

    Notable Point
  45. 2:00:01
    The commercial network behind British-aligned sea power

    British shipping, insurance, chartering, coal, and emerging oil infrastructure help Japan, Italy, and the United States sustain global maritime activity.

    Notable Point
  46. 2:09:08
    The US Navy's 21-knot battle-line trap

    Congressional funding and an unbalanced building program leave the US Navy short of cruisers, destroyers, and a timely answer to 28-knot foreign battleships.

    Chapter
  47. 2:22:14
    QuestionWere these early Japanese battleships already top-heavy ships with excessive turrets and questionable armour?Answer

    That criticism imports features and reputations of later rebuilds into the 1910s designs.

    Q&A
  48. 2:24:03
    Britain's projected 18-inch and 21-inch capital ships

    A prestige-driven gun race could produce 18-inch fleet ships and limited 21-inch flagships, even if 16.5-inch weapons offered a better rate-of-fire compromise.

    Chapter
  49. 2:27:22
    Capital-ship transfers as imperial infrastructure policy

    Britain could distribute older capital ships to the Dominions, shifting operating costs while prompting overseas bases and dockyards to expand.

    Notable Point
  50. 2:28:11
    Why some gun calibres offer a poor compromise

    Support costs and firing rate can make an intermediate calibre unattractive, while very large guns demand increasingly mechanized loading.

    Notable Point
  51. 2:31:26
    Why naval control accelerates carrier aviation

    A separate naval air arm channels the Royal Navy's money and industrial relationships into carrier aviation, treating aircraft as fleet systems rather than adjuncts to land forces.

    Notable Point
  52. 2:33:48
    QuestionCould the United States answer British 21-inch battleship guns by turning to aircraft carriers?Answer

    Carriers still develop, but useful anti-ship aircraft depend on engines powerful enough to carry an effective load.

    Q&A
  53. 2:35:44
    How delaying war changes technological development

    Peace preserves research, while concentrated investment in turning ideas into operational equipment may await the delayed war in the 1920s.

    Notable Point
  54. 2:37:47
    QuestionWould existing infrastructure determine how large the delayed-war battleships could become?Answer

    Infrastructure constrains design, but planned dockyard expansion gives navies room for substantially larger ships.

    Q&A
  55. 2:39:27
    The Royal Navy already had the largest submarine force

    In 1914 Britain fielded about 75 submarines, compared with roughly 50 for France and 30 for Germany, despite public British arguments that submarines should be restricted.

    Notable Point
  56. 2:43:16
    Fast battleships break the traditional battle line

    Maintaining a long line at 28 knots becomes unwieldy, encouraging smaller task groups and favoring faster-firing guns over the largest possible caliber.

    Notable Point
  57. 2:46:23
    Germany trades numbers for a few fast heavy ships

    Germany likely abandons numerical competition for pairs of 28-knot, 16.5-inch ships while remaining short of cruisers, destroyers, and submarines.

    Chapter
  58. 2:53:21
    QuestionShould Germany concentrate on U-boats instead of maintaining a balanced fleet?Answer

    A submarine-only threat would let Britain concentrate on mass-producing convoy escorts; a balanced fleet forces it to divide resources among several kinds of threat.

    Q&A
  59. 2:55:50
    QuestionWhat if Germany had mass-produced Type XXI U-boats?Answer

    They would still face mature 1945 Allied ASW systems and large numbers of specialized frigates concentrated around the convoys they had to attack.

    Q&A
  60. 3:02:53
    QuestionWould delaying the war lead aircraft toward a more offensive naval role?Answer

    Probably, with torpedo bombers emerging early if aircraft have enough speed, lift, and stability to carry a torpedo close to a ship and launch it.

    Q&A
  61. 3:05:26
    Alternate history as evidence-based scenario analysis

    A disciplined counterfactual combines political, economic, social, technological, and strategic evidence to test which factors made the historical outcome possible.

    Notable Point
  62. 3:08:13
    QuestionWhat if Austria-Hungary completed a 28-knot Ersatz Monarch before the Italian fast battleships?Answer

    It would accelerate the same global speed race, with Britain trying to overtake it and Italy reacting especially strongly.

    Q&A
  63. 3:09:02
    QuestionHow can a naval embargo be distinguished from a naval blockade?Answer

    If all ships are stopped it is a blockade; if nonparticipating neutral shipping can pass under commercial restrictions it is an embargo, while health restrictions are a quarantine.

    Q&A
  64. 3:10:57
    QuestionHow did dry-bulk and container shipping evolve from sailing vessels to modern carriers?Answer

    Specialized holds and mechanized loading distinguished modern bulkers from mixed cargo ships, while containers and bulk systems spread gradually as ports built the necessary infrastructure.

    Q&A
  65. 3:15:16
    Why containerisation has no single completion date

    Container shipping spreads as individual ports acquire suitable facilities, so one opening date cannot describe a worldwide transition.

    Notable Point
  66. 3:17:48
    QuestionWould Georg von Trapp remain a submarine officer in a war delayed to 1920?Answer

    Probably not; normal advancement would likely put him in command of a surface ship, perhaps a cruiser.

    Q&A
  67. 3:18:09
    QuestionWas the unreliability of French naval shells the fault of the Jeune Ecole?Answer

    Indirectly: the institutional disputes disrupted testing, while hurried attempts to catch up could encourage skipped trials.

    Q&A
  68. 3:19:05
    QuestionWhat would the remaining battlecruisers of Japan's Eight-Eight plan look like?Answer

    They would likely begin as improved Kongo designs and continue through iterative generations rather than stopping once eight ships existed.

    Q&A
  69. 3:19:45
    QuestionDid German U-boat damage to British trade help explain Japan's later economic weakness?Answer

    Yes; Japan depended heavily on British merchant shipping and lacked the enlarged postwar transport fleet that helped the United States recover.

    Q&A
  70. 3:20:18
    QuestionWithout Jutland's criticism of battlecruisers, would Lexington and an American battlecruiser line still be built?Answer

    A battlecruiser line is possible, but foreign developments could instead push the United States directly toward fast battleships.

    Q&A
  71. 3:21:27
    QuestionCould the US Navy save money by reusing guns and turrets from older standard battleships in new battlecruisers?Answer

    Possibly, if it chose to build battlecruisers, but concentrating on fast battleships would avoid paying for both types.

    Q&A
  72. 3:21:53
    QuestionWould the United States give its older standard battleships Italian-style major refits?Answer

    Possibly, but deep reconstruction could approach the cost of a better new ship, and Congress often finds new construction easier to support.

    Q&A
  73. 3:23:00
    QuestionCould Brazil or Argentina order improved Agincourt-type battleships if the delayed-war design were built?Answer

    Probably not in the first generation, but a later order is possible, and British yards would be happy to build it.

    Q&A
  74. 3:23:39
    QuestionWould a semi-dreadnought with triple turrets but older machinery change the naval arms race?Answer

    Probably little by itself; widespread adoption of triple turrets during the pre-dreadnought era could change later battleship designs.

    Q&A
  75. 3:27:21
    QuestionWould navies reach 30-inch guns by 1930?Answer

    No; the declining rate of fire creates a practical limit before that caliber becomes useful.

    Q&A
  76. 3:28:47
    QuestionHow would ship design change if the war were delayed without abandoning the dreadnought concept?Answer

    Design would advance in more deliberate generations, with fast battleships dominant and surviving battlecruisers pushed toward about 35-36 knots.

    Q&A
  77. 3:31:02
    QuestionHow would anti-submarine technologies such as hydrophones and ASDIC progress if war waited until 1920?Answer

    Potentially, because research was already underway and historically produced some form of system by 1918; readiness by 1920 remains a possibility.

    Q&A
  78. 3:32:31
    QuestionHas the 1914 Japanese naval procurement scandal grown in historical importance since it happened?Answer

    In this interpretation, its later reputation is larger because the First World War and subsequent events changed how it is viewed.

    Q&A
  79. 3:33:11
    QuestionCould Germany use Austro-Hungarian triple turrets if the war were delayed?Answer

    Potentially; German designers examined them historically but chose not to adopt them.

    Q&A
  80. 3:33:30
    QuestionWhat source can reconstruct which Royal Navy ships were in service and where they were on a given day?Answer

    The Royal Navy's pink slips record ships, activities, and locations day by day and are available through the National Archives.

    Q&A
  81. 3:35:06
    QuestionWhy does Britain no longer use privateers?Answer

    The legal work involved makes privateering expensive and cumbersome.

    Q&A
  82. 3:35:16
    QuestionWhich delayed-war navy has the best setup for the future?Answer

    The Royal Navy is strongest overall, but Austria-Hungary achieves the best balance and value for its smaller budget.

    Q&A
  83. 3:37:34
    QuestionAre 21-inch-gun battleships comparable to a proposed 170-gun four-decker as status symbols?Answer

    To an extent, although the 21-inch-gun battleships in this scenario are more likely to be built.

    Q&A
  84. 3:37:58
    QuestionAre scouting-group battlecruisers still useful when the main battle line is already fast?Answer

    Yes, but in a different role: they become rapid-reaction, trade-protection, and commerce-warfare assets rather than scouts for the battle line.

    Q&A
  85. 3:41:38
    QuestionWhich naval innovations and ship types would be skipped if war began in 1920 instead of 1914?Answer

    Renown- and Admiral-style wartime battlecruisers likely disappear, fast battleships dominate, and purpose-built carriers make turret-launched aircraft less relevant.

    Q&A
  86. 3:44:20
    QuestionWhy is defence funding public when Parliament also has a secret-service vote?Answer

    Defence is a large declared departmental budget with NATO reporting obligations, whereas intelligence appropriations can remain less transparent.

    Q&A
  87. 3:44:55
    QuestionHow much of the pre-1914 Royal Navy would still be present if war began in 1920?Answer

    Nearly all dreadnoughts would survive, with the oldest ships in reserve or Dominion service and many pre-dreadnoughts already retired.

    Q&A
  88. 3:45:59
    QuestionWould navies consider quintuple main-gun turrets?Answer

    They might consider them, but the interactions among guns sharing a turret make the arrangement increasingly difficult.

    Q&A
  89. 3:47:18
    QuestionHow would HMS Eagle and carrier aviation affect an alternate Jutland in the delayed-war scenario?Answer

    Jutland itself might not occur. Eagle would remain a Chilean battleship, while Britain would probably build Hermes-style carriers around torpedo aircraft.

    Q&A
  90. 3:49:36
    The Ottoman naval race that could trigger war in 1920

    Greek, Ottoman, and Russian capital-ship programs could bankrupt and destabilize the Ottoman Empire, providing a new route to general war around 1920.

    Chapter