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What would the economic impact have been if the Naval Treaties hadn't happened? Patreon Premier 1
Study What would the economic impact have been if the Naval Treaties hadn't happened? Patreon Premier 1, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 6 Jun 2024, with 39 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Battleships…
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- 1:50Naval procurement as economic stimulusChapter
Naval building could spread industrial work during economic downturns without curing the Great Depression.
- 3:55Senator Tillman and Charleston Navy Yard patronageNotable Point
Charleston Navy Yard shows how naval employment could support a local economy while reinforcing a senator's political position.
- 4:43Why Anglo-American war plans did not make war likelyNotable Point
Anglo-American war plans show worst-case staff work without the diplomatic conditions needed to cause a war.
- 5:31How staff papers gave the Army influence over policyNotable Point
Written staff work helped the Army establish its strategic assumptions among policymakers while the prewar Admiralty struggled to present its own case.
- 7:12The Sable Island feint in Anglo-American war planningNotable Point
The proposed British feint near Canada shows how a theoretical war plan could exploit an opponent's expectations without making that opponent the focus of fleet exercises.
- 13:25How shipbuilding could accelerate radar, welding, and gunneryChapter
Continuous capital-ship work supports research in metallurgy, radar, welding, armament, armor, and machinery as well as employment.
- 14:32Shipboard workshops and the possibility of earlier radarNotable Point
Shipboard machinists could modify equipment at sea, while continued long-range gunnery development might create stronger demand for radar.
- 18:51Reducing gunfire shock so crews could keep workingNotable Point
Gunfire shock could impair the crew's work, giving recoil and seating research an operational purpose.
- 20:56Washington Treaty shock to shipyardsNotable Point
The Washington Naval Treaty abruptly cut capital-ship work, damaging yards and skilled labor pipelines.
- 21:45Why continuous warship orders preserve industrial skillsNotable Point
Steady naval work helps shipyards retain skilled labor, adopt new technology, and compete for merchant contracts without expensive cycles of collapse and reconstruction.
- 26:31A qualitative Anglo-American race in capital shipsNotable Point
Without treaty limits, Britain and the United States could compete over gun power, speed, and range without treating one another as likely wartime enemies.
- 26:31British gun experiments and the lessons drawn from German weaponsNotable Point
Misread early tests could shape gun production before later trials exposed the weaknesses in the chosen approach.
- 28:10Iowa's gun-weight dispute and the battleship spectrumNotable Point
Gun and turret weight shaped Iowa's design, while Hood, G3, and Lexington illustrate different balances within the capital-ship spectrum.
- 33:51War debt, reparations, and the DepressionNotable Point
The interwar loans and reparations cycle limits how much extra naval spending could change the wider economic crisis.
- 36:08Fleet choices without Washington limitsChapter
A no-Washington scenario contrasts Britain's steady capital-ship rhythm with American politics and Japanese fleet-plan pressures.
- 42:20Carriers, cruisers, and postwar employmentNotable Point
Without treaty conversions, carrier and cruiser development could follow different paths while yards supply postwar employment.
- 44:49Sloops and cutters after the destroyer-building surgeNotable Point
A postwar pause in destroyer orders could redirect British and American construction toward sloops and Coast Guard cutters.
- 47:21Why distant stations could still require a new heavy cruiserNotable Point
The need for affordable station flagships could drive British heavy-cruiser development independently of treaty limits.
- 48:33Britain's construction reflex and Japan's sense of securityNotable Point
The counterfactual combines Britain's habitual use of naval construction with a slower Japanese 8-8 program pursued without the humiliation of imposed ratios.
- 51:48A purpose-built carrier race without treaty conversionsChapter
British carrier experiments and American war games could drive competing purpose-built designs even without Lexington and Saratoga conversions.
- 56:47Fleet strength as deterrence and diplomatic leverageNotable Point
A larger, newer Royal Navy could change Japanese, Italian, and German calculations by making intervention and escalation visibly more costly.
- 1:04:16Why Spanish Civil War patrols needed status shipsNotable Point
Spanish Civil War patrols show how destroyers could perform the mission while larger ships supplied the visible diplomatic pressure.
- 1:07:11London Treaty failure and Depression spendingChapter
A failed London Treaty scenario turns Great Depression shipbuilding into a practical policy lever for Britain and the United States.
- 1:13:29Japanese 18-inch ships as the triggerNotable Point
Japan building an 18-inch-gun capital ship would force Britain and the United States away from smaller treaty-style battleship ideas.
- 1:17:27New 15-inch guns supported by a global ammunition systemNotable Point
Existing shells and barrel facilities could favor a new British 15-inch gun program for both new ships and upgrades to older battleships.
- 1:22:08Fast battleships expose dock and canal constraintsChapter
Responding to a fast Japanese capital ship would force the United States, Britain, France, and Italy to reconcile fleet designs with canals, docks, armament capacity, and national industry.
- 1:24:15Carrier aviation and industrial spilloversChapter
More carrier construction could advance naval aircraft, engine power, fleet-air organization, and civilian industry while circulating wages through the Depression economy.
- 1:24:25Strike carriers, armored fleet carriers, and air-group sizeChapter
Carrier roles shaped the balance between aircraft capacity and protection, with different British and American routes toward larger, more survivable ships.
- 1:31:45How non-treaty navies widen the building raceNotable Point
German, Dominion, and South American procurement could spread demand beyond the five powers usually associated with the naval treaty system.
- 1:34:03Arms-race knock-on effects before World War IIChapter
Earlier naval construction could alter Soviet, German, Italian, and British choices before World War II.
- 1:37:28Why four Japanese yards did not mean four ships at onceNotable Point
Supporting industry could limit simultaneous capital-ship construction even when four Japanese yards had enough physical space.
- 1:38:37A stronger fleet at the Abyssinia crisisChapter
Gradual naval expansion could give Britain more credible force at Alexandria during the Abyssinia crisis while reducing the cost of the later emergency rearmament surge.
- 1:42:49Rearmament exports could strengthen PolandNotable Point
Larger British and French production runs could lower export costs and let threatened states such as Poland buy more ships, aircraft, and other equipment before 1939.
- 1:44:17The opportunity cost of Japanese super-battleshipsNotable Point
An earlier Japanese capital-ship program could produce impressive headline ships while weakening the carrier, cruiser, and destroyer balance needed for an effective fleet.
- 1:45:16The Pact of Steel and the cost of catching stronger rivalsNotable Point
Stronger British, French, and Polish forces could raise the price of aggression while making Italy's alliance choice harder to predict.
- 1:48:28Why the counterfactual cannot yield precise job totalsNotable Point
Precise economic totals remain out of reach because changing treaty outcomes also changes politics, designs, infrastructure, and procurement sequences.
- 1:52:11Gun-barrel wear and Britain's global supply linesNotable Point
Longer barrel life could reduce replacement shipments for a navy operating far from its gun-support facilities.
- 1:55:37From naval wages to local spending and tax receiptsChapter
Dependable naval contracts carry public spending into households, civilian employment, exports, and tax receipts.
- 1:59:42Could stronger fleets deter or fragment a world war?Notable Point
Larger fleets might deter dictators, keep regional wars from merging, or reproduce World War II in a different form.