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Patreon 15 - Washington’s cherry trees: the G3 and N3 classes

Study Patreon 15 - Washington’s cherry trees: the G3 and N3 classes, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 14 Jan 2021, with 54 time notes. Topics include Capital Ship Design, G3 Class Battlecruisers, N3 Class Battleships.

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Runtime2:45:40
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Time notes

  1. 1:30
    QuestionWhich Royal Navy captain is named as a favorite despite never becoming an admiral?Answer

    Michael Clapp, who was technically a captain because commodore was then an appointment rather than a permanent Royal Navy rank.

    Q&A
  2. 4:23
    Why Renown could drive off Scharnhorst and Gneisenau

    The encounter is explained through German orders, the psychological effect of Renown's aggressive approach, and the risk that a few lucky hits could overturn a paper comparison.

    Notable Point
  3. 5:31
    QuestionWhy were the G3 and N3 designs not intended to carry a Blackburn Blackburn floatplane?Answer

    Because HMS Hermes was expected to provide the spotting-aircraft support for them.

    Q&A
  4. 10:37
    QuestionWhat names would the G3 and N3 classes probably have received?Answer

    The evidence is inconclusive, but prominent admiral names were plausible because the Royal Navy repeatedly reused them for capital ships.

    Q&A
  5. 12:44
    From Dreadnought to the postwar capital-ship problem

    Changing hull and armor arrangements preceded the wartime experience that shaped the next British capital ships.

    Chapter
  6. 19:29
    QuestionWould two quadruple turrets have been better than three triple turrets?Answer

    No; triple turrets offered a more workable balance of weight, reliability, aiming, and maintainability with contemporary technology.

    Q&A
  7. 20:55
    QuestionHow far had British triple-turret development progressed for the N3 and G3 designs?Answer

    Britain had useful triple-mount experience, and the G3's 16-inch work directly informed the Nelson-class armament.

    Q&A
  8. 23:31
    Why Britain wanted more carrier tonnage but smaller individual carriers

    British treaty policy paired a high aggregate carrier allowance with low per-ship limits so the Royal Navy could spread aviation across more hulls.

    Notable Point
  9. 25:34
    How wartime lessons pushed British designs upward

    The design narrative connects Dogger Bank, Jutland, and Beatty's influence to demands for more speed, armor, and gun power.

    Chapter
  10. 29:02
    QuestionCould the Queen Elizabeth class have been rearmed with triple 15-inch turrets?Answer

    The turret rings made it technically possible, but ammunition storage and the scale of the conversion made the proposal difficult.

    Q&A
  11. 32:24
    QuestionHow might the G3 design have changed if Jellicoe remained influential and Beatty did not lead the postwar Royal Navy?Answer

    Different senior leadership would probably have produced a more conventional capital-ship layout.

    Q&A
  12. 35:35
    Why quadruple turrets looked better on paper

    A comparison of British and French quad mounts shows how canal limits, cramped machinery, and reliability eroded paper savings.

    Notable Point
  13. 39:55
    QuestionDid the Royal Navy regret building the Revenge class instead of more Queen Elizabeth-class battleships?Answer

    Yes; the last two R-class orders becoming Renown and Repulse are cited as evidence of that regret.

    Q&A
  14. 43:35
    The Jutland report and distorted postwar lessons

    Rewriting the official Jutland account around Beatty's reputation encouraged misleading design assumptions.

    Notable Point
  15. 46:53
    The G3 orders halted by the Washington negotiations

    Contemporary design figures show four 32-knot G3 battlecruisers ordered in 1921 before treaty negotiations stopped construction.

    Chapter
  16. 49:45
    Citadel layout concentrated guns, magazines, and armor

    The Nelson design demonstrates how triple turrets and a short armored citadel traded firing arcs for thicker protection.

    Chapter
  17. 56:51
    The tactical cost of an all-forward main battery

    The Nelson layout protected vital spaces efficiently but restricted forward and aft fire when a battle refused to follow the expected geometry.

    Chapter
  18. 58:43
    QuestionDid the Royal Navy consider an updated Nelson-class layout for the ships that became the King George V class?Answer

    Not directly; later 16-inch concepts would probably have restored an aft turret rather than repeat the all-forward layout.

    Q&A
  19. 1:00:52
    QuestionWhy did Britain move from 15-inch to 16-inch guns instead of making a larger jump?Answer

    The 15-inch gun was proven, and increasing the bore to 16 inches still produced a substantial gain in firepower.

    Q&A
  20. 1:04:49
    QuestionCould turbo-electric drive have allowed the machinery and propeller motors to be separated in Nelson or G3?Answer

    It was considered, but contemporary systems could not provide enough trusted power for the required capital-ship speed.

    Q&A
  21. 1:06:00
    Nelson-class machinery, weapons, and armor

    A compact technical profile sets the Nelson class's 23-knot machinery against nine 16-inch guns and heavy concentrated armor.

    Chapter
  22. 1:08:31
    QuestionDid Nelson and Rodney regularly make their advertised 23 knots?Answer

    Probably not; roughly 20 knots is offered as a more realistic frequent service speed.

    Q&A
  23. 1:08:43
    Waterline protection limited extreme citadel economies

    The US Navy's required armoured share of the waterline exposed a weakness in extreme citadel economies, and later British designs moved toward broader belt coverage.

    Notable Point
  24. 1:09:53
    Why balanced firing arcs mattered in the Mediterranean

    A proposed Nelson redesign moves one turret aft to make the ship more adaptable in fast-changing Mediterranean actions.

    Notable Point
  25. 1:14:08
    Concentrated firepower also concentrated risk

    All-forward batteries saved protected length but exposed a ship to losing much of its firepower in one damaged area.

    Notable Point
  26. 1:16:04
    QuestionWere Nelson and Rodney mainly designs for calmer waters rather than the North Atlantic?Answer

    No; they could operate in the North Atlantic, though the G3 and N3 designs likely would have been better seakeepers.

    Q&A
  27. 1:23:24
    Main-battery blast disrupted Nelson's flag facilities

    The placement of Nelson's command spaces made the shock of firing the main battery a practical headquarters problem as well as a structural one.

    Notable Point
  28. 1:25:35
    QuestionWhy not rearrange the G3 superstructure and citadel to save more weight?Answer

    Because moving the bridge too far aft would make ship control less satisfactory despite the structural savings.

    Q&A
  29. 1:27:33
    QuestionWhy did navies keep laying wooden decking when gunfire could damage it?Answer

    Because it cheaply protected the steel deck, resisted salt water, and provided a practical working and ceremonial surface.

    Q&A
  30. 1:28:39
    G3 speed versus N3 gun power

    The two designs used nearly equal displacement for sharply different combinations of speed, armor, and gun caliber.

    Chapter
  31. 1:33:53
    QuestionWhy did the Royal Navy order the G3s before the N3 battleships?Answer

    The G3 design was ready first and new battlecruisers were a more urgent requirement than replacing the existing battleship force.

    Q&A
  32. 1:34:37
    How older battleships could still alter Japanese planning off Malaya

    A counterfactual carrier-supported Force Z uses several older battleships to show how visible fleet numbers can compel a larger enemy response.

    Notable Point
  33. 1:35:37
    QuestionWould building more G3s have been more useful than proceeding with the N3 battleships?Answer

    Probably for many operations, though a faster N3 that retained its armor and heavy guns offered a useful compromise.

    Q&A
  34. 1:37:13
    QuestionWhy did Britain keep the Revenge class when the G3s would have been more useful in a modern fleet?Answer

    Treaty limits barred a simple substitution, and Britain had already given up the G3 programme before the settlement was complete.

    Q&A
  35. 1:38:30
    The G3's layered torpedo-defense concept

    A cross-section reveals alternating air, steel, and liquid layers backed by compressed-air counter-flooding measures.

    Chapter
  36. 1:39:52
    A fast battleship compromised by its center turret

    The G3 combined battlecruiser speed with battleship protection, but its machinery and center-turret arrangement limited firing arcs and future use.

    Notable Point
  37. 1:44:01
    Why North Sea evidence could distort conclusions about aft fire

    A study finding that Royal Navy ships rarely fired aft is qualified because its evidence came from the Grand Fleet's North Sea engagements.

    Notable Point
  38. 1:49:28
    Surviving G3s could have raised the treaty battleship ceiling

    Keeping 48,000-ton G3s in service might have made their size the legal baseline for interwar capital ships and enlarged every navy's design margin.

    Notable Point
  39. 1:52:22
    Capital-ship orders as employment and national policy

    Battleship procurement connected shipyard employment and public prestige with the Navy's role as the shield of empire.

    Chapter
  40. 2:02:24
    The N3's 18-inch guns and the escalation trap

    Nine 18-inch guns promised British superiority but risked setting a new baseline that rival navies would immediately exceed.

    Chapter
  41. 2:07:47
    QuestionWhen did the Royal Navy and United States Navy begin cooperating on warship design?Answer

    They shared technology and experience, especially during the Second World War, but did not generally adopt a common ship-design process.

    Q&A
  42. 2:12:53
    QuestionHow did the rate of fire of 15-inch guns compare with proposed 18- or 20-inch weapons?Answer

    Fifteen-inch guns could fire much faster, while very large calibers imposed severe shell-handling, machinery, and barrel penalties.

    Q&A
  43. 2:14:44
    QuestionWhen did additional gun range cease to be useful because a ship could not find or see the target?Answer

    Before radar, visibility and fire control often made the 8-inch gun's extra range less useful than the 6-inch gun's higher volume of fire.

    Q&A
  44. 2:17:17
    QuestionWould quadruple turrets have made a proposed sixteen-gun super-Town cruiser unreliable?Answer

    They posed difficulties, but a 6-inch quad was much more feasible than quadruple 14-, 15-, 16-, or 18-inch mounts.

    Q&A
  45. 2:20:41
    QuestionWhy did the Royal Navy not continue developing 16-inch guns after Nelson and Rodney?Answer

    Treasury-Admiralty funding disputes curtailed the work even though the treaties did not directly ban gun development.

    Q&A
  46. 2:23:11
    How G3 carrier conversions might have transformed naval aviation

    Treaty conversion could have produced four large, fast British carriers and established senior carrier commands a decade earlier.

    Chapter
  47. 2:27:02
    QuestionWhat was the M3 design sometimes mentioned alongside G3 and N3?Answer

    M3 was an earlier design iteration in the sequence that eventually produced the N3 battleship proposal.

    Q&A
  48. 2:28:20
    QuestionHow would the G3 and N3 designs fare against a South Dakota-class battleship?Answer

    The G3 suited a mobile fight, while the N3 became more attractive in a fleet action where armor and heavy firepower outweighed agility.

    Q&A
  49. 2:29:46
    QuestionCould the Washington treaty have limited batches of standard ships while easing unemployment and controlling escalation?Answer

    Possibly, but the actual negotiators did not fully develop that kind of construction-and-employment mechanism.

    Q&A
  50. 2:31:46
    QuestionWould a G3 carrier have been larger than the Lexington-class carriers?Answer

    It would probably have been about the same overall size, with a different British secondary and anti-aircraft battery.

    Q&A
  51. 2:33:51
    QuestionHow many Swordfish and other aircraft might a G3 carrier have operated?Answer

    About 72 aircraft in all, illustrated as 36 Swordfish, 18 Fulmars, and 18 Skuas.

    Q&A
  52. 2:41:29
    QuestionWhat value would an N3 battleship have had in the Second World War?Answer

    Broadly the same kind of value as Nelson and Rodney, but in a larger and more heavily armed form.

    Q&A
  53. 2:42:09
    QuestionWhere would Britain deploy its other carriers if four G3 conversions also entered service?Answer

    Older carriers would support the main fleets and overseas stations, with Hermes and Eagle likely concentrated on the China Station.

    Q&A
  54. 2:43:43
    QuestionWhat role would G3 battle groups have played in the Second World War?Answer

    They would likely have operated like Hood, moving around the world to intercept major enemy surface threats.

    Q&A