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Submarines of the Minor Navys...Polish, Greek, Dutch & Norwegian Boats in WWII

Study Submarines of the Minor Navys...Polish, Greek, Dutch & Norwegian Boats in WWII, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 7 Jun 2025, with 51 time notes. Topics include Greek Navy, Polish Navy, Royal Netherlands Navy.

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Time notes

  1. 8:44
    How smaller navies chose submarines before World War II

    The opening frames Polish, Greek, Dutch, and Norwegian submarine choices as problems of limited budgets, geography, and force design.

    Chapter
  2. 13:27
    Wilk class: a versatile Baltic submarine

    The Polish Wilk class combined torpedoes, forty mines, useful speed, and a compact displacement suited to Baltic sea denial.

    Notable Point
  3. 24:15
    Orzel class and the cost of abandoning mine warfare

    The larger Dutch-built Orzel class carried a formidable torpedo battery, but the loss of dedicated minelaying reduced its flexibility for a small navy.

    Notable Point
  4. 31:24
    QuestionCould a submarine's midships torpedo tubes be fired while the boat was in the process of diving?Answer

    Not safely during the transition; the tube must be in a known surfaced or submerged pressure state before firing.

    Q&A
  5. 33:24
    Orzel's disappearance and the difficulty of identifying submarine wrecks

    Orzel vanished on patrol in 1940, leaving mines, aircraft attack, and unidentified wrecks as competing explanations for her loss.

    Notable Point
  6. 39:54
    Jastrzab and the lethal identification rules around convoy PQ 15

    The old American S-25 became Polish Jastrzab and was lost when an Allied convoy escort attacked a submarine inside the convoy's diverted route.

    Notable Point
  7. 48:04
    Polish crews in British U- and S-class submarines

    Polish submariners continued the war in British-built boats, including Sokol and Dzik, whose Mediterranean service earned a strong reputation.

    Chapter
  8. 51:53
    Why the Royal Navy built U-class submarines before wartime demand peaked

    The U class was an operational coastal submarine developed before the war, not a training type improvised after hostilities began.

    Notable Point
  9. 56:51
    Greek submarine choices under tight financial limits

    Greece operated French-designed boats in demanding Mediterranean conditions while budgets restricted replacement and modernization.

    Chapter
  10. 1:02:29
    Katsonis, Papanikolis, and Greek wartime endurance

    Katsonis and Papanikolis served with skill in patrol and special-operations work despite losses and reported equipment weaknesses.

    Notable Point
  11. 1:06:00
    Protefs-class losses and Greece's plan for an exile submarine force

    The Protefs-class story combines heavy wartime losses with a clear Greek contingency plan to send surviving submarines to Alexandria under Royal Navy coordination.

    Notable Point
  12. 1:08:41
    Why interwar submarine mines required dedicated vertical tubes

    Interwar moored mines needed dedicated drop tubes, explaining why mine warfare could not simply be added to every torpedo-only submarine.

    Notable Point
  13. 1:11:46
    Protefs-class submerged endurance in Mediterranean currents

    A submerged endurance of about 100 nautical miles at five knots gave Greece's Protefs-class boats useful options for quiet movement with Mediterranean currents.

    Notable Point
  14. 1:12:34
    QuestionCould specialist submarine minelaying tubes be modified into vertical-launch missile cells?Answer

    Potentially, but only with a new internal support and launch structure fitted inside the through-hull mine tube.

    Q&A
  15. 1:13:12
    Italian Perla and British V-class boats rebuilt the Greek force

    Late-war transfers gave Greece an Italian Perla-class prize and British V-class boats, though few Axis naval targets remained by then.

    Notable Point
  16. 1:14:42
    QuestionWere magnetic mines ever laid by submarines during World War II?Answer

    Possibly, but aircraft were the primary and easier delivery method, and submarine use would need operation-by-operation confirmation.

    Q&A
  17. 1:17:43
    Why Malta's 10th Submarine Flotilla was so effective

    Malta's submarines exploited constrained Axis convoy routes, combining harbor surveillance with attacks against traffic forced through a narrow operating area.

    Notable Point
  18. 1:26:22
    H68 served Britain, the Netherlands, and Germany across two wars

    A British-built 1915 submarine became a Dutch training boat and, after being scuttled and raised, a German trainer in World War II.

    Notable Point
  19. 1:32:27
    Dutch submarines for Europe and the East Indies

    Dutch submarine development balanced North Sea needs with the long ranges and tropical service demanded by the East Indies.

    Chapter
  20. 1:34:20
    Early Dutch K boats: colonial service, obsolescence, and training

    The oldest colonial K boats entered World War II with little combat value, and even training use exposed their age and mechanical limits.

    Notable Point
  21. 1:38:43
    K XI class: colonial range, intelligence work, and mixed torpedoes

    The K XI class combined long East Indies range with mixed-caliber torpedoes, while its wartime service extended from attacks on Japanese shipping to intelligence landings.

    Notable Point
  22. 1:44:04
    K XIV class: traversing torpedo tubes, refits, and Pacific combat

    K XIV-class boats replaced mixed-caliber armament with 21-inch torpedoes and trainable external mounts, then fought an effective but costly campaign against Japan.

    Chapter
  23. 1:49:40
    O 9 class: aging pressure hulls and Germany's costly salvage effort

    The elderly O 9 class illustrates how diving cycles consume pressure-hull life and how Germany spent years trying to recover a marginal captured boat.

    Notable Point
  24. 1:55:28
    O 12 class: escape, unexplained loss, and spare-parts triage

    The four O 12-class boats split between German capture, Allied patrols, an unresolved disappearance, and the cannibalization needed to keep one survivor running.

    Chapter
  25. 2:02:53
    O 16's eight-day Pacific war and the destruction of her war grave

    O 16 sank or damaged several Japanese ships in the first days of the Pacific war, then struck a mine before later commercial salvage disturbed the wreck.

    Notable Point
  26. 2:06:29
    O 19 class: offensive minelaying from Fremantle

    O 19 and O 20 finally gave the Dutch submarine force dedicated minelaying, and O 19 became one of Fremantle's most highly regarded boats.

    Chapter
  27. 2:12:12
    O 21 class: advanced design divided between Allied and German service

    The fast, deep-diving O 21 class entered the war among the world's most advanced submarines, but incomplete hulls split between Dutch and German service.

    Chapter
  28. 2:19:39
    Why experienced Dutch crews preferred British T-class submarines

    Dutch crews tried British U-, S-, and T-class boats, then repeatedly requested T-class submarines for their reliability, maintainability, and heavy torpedo battery.

    Notable Point
  29. 2:27:17
    Norway's A class and the illusion of submarine readiness

    Norway still counted pre-First World War A-class boats as active submarines in 1940, masking the absence of a credible modern replacement force.

    Chapter
  30. 2:34:19
    Norway's B class: licensed production without a modern force

    Norway built six American-derived B-class boats under license, but a six-year production gap and an unchanged small design left most vulnerable to capture in 1940.

    Notable Point
  31. 2:38:43
    Norwegian crews, U-class boats, and special operations

    Exiled Norwegian crews regained an effective submarine arm in British U-class boats used for patrols, special operations, and covert support.

    Notable Point
  32. 2:46:09
    QuestionWhat if the Dutch had standardized on a Type IX-like long-range submarine with a snorkel and improved torpedoes?Answer

    They would gain a few formidable Pacific boats, but too few hulls to alter the wider campaign decisively.

    Q&A
  33. 2:47:10
    QuestionDid any of these smaller navies look at buying Japanese submarines?Answer

    No documented effort is identified, and Japan was not actively advertising its submarines for export.

    Q&A
  34. 2:49:14
    QuestionWould extra American fleet submarines have materially helped the smaller Allied navies?Answer

    Only in suitable theaters; submarines are strong sea-denial weapons but weak substitutes for sea-control forces.

    Q&A
  35. 2:50:12
    From fifteen Kobben boats to six modern Norwegian submarines

    Norway's Kobben program reached fifteen useful submarines, but the later Ula and Type 212 generations settled at six boats each despite a vast coastline.

    Notable Point
  36. 2:52:48
    QuestionWhich of these navies had the best anti-submarine warfare doctrine?Answer

    The Dutch, by a substantial margin, because they worked hardest and had the deepest relevant experience.

    Q&A
  37. 2:53:08
    QuestionDid South American powers operate submarines during World War II?Answer

    Yes; Brazil and Chile are highlighted among navies that used submarines for coastal defense and sea denial.

    Q&A
  38. 2:56:56
    QuestionWhat if Dutch submarines had intercepted and sunk five Japanese carriers in December 1941?Answer

    It would have sharply checked Japan's advance and transformed Allied freedom of action in the Pacific.

    Q&A
  39. 3:02:42
    QuestionWould Japan's Malaya or Philippine invasion fleet have been vulnerable if it ran into Dutch submarines?Answer

    It was: O 16 sank three Japanese ships and damaged another before striking a mine three days later.

    Q&A
  40. 3:03:40
    Why Norway's Sleipner class were torpedo boats in all but name

    Norway called the Sleipner class modern destroyers, but their displacement and armament placed them much closer to contemporary torpedo boats.

    Notable Point
  41. 3:05:23
    QuestionWould ten Dutch minelaying submarines, built at roughly one per year before 1940, have helped the Allies?Answer

    Yes; surviving boats could have delayed Japanese landings, damaged transports, and channeled traffic toward torpedo ambushes.

    Q&A
  42. 3:10:10
    QuestionWhat is your opinion of the Dutch Dolfijn class of 1954?Answer

    It was a good and inventive design for its time, with a three-cylinder hull, eight tubes, and useful minelaying capability.

    Q&A
  43. 3:14:09
    QuestionWhat about the submarines of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia?Answer

    They warrant a separate Baltic study, especially linking Estonia with Finland and their common Soviet threat.

    Q&A
  44. 3:19:28
    QuestionHow did the Dutch sustain their Pacific submarines after the Netherlands fell?Answer

    Through Allied adaptation and parts support, followed increasingly by a shift to maintainable Royal Navy boats.

    Q&A
  45. 3:20:00
    QuestionWhich was the last U- or V-class submarine in service?Answer

    No single boat can be identified with certainty, but Danish-operated examples appear to have lasted until about 1959.

    Q&A
  46. 3:23:53
    QuestionWhat is likely to happen to the damaged North Korean warship sometimes misdescribed as a submarine?Answer

    It will probably be refloated and presented for use, but the damage may make scrapping or rebuilding safer and cheaper than repair.

    Q&A
  47. 3:24:59
    QuestionWhat submarine would you have designed or procured for Norway?Answer

    About ten Lembit-style dual-purpose boats in the 1930s; today, a good modern design but closer to twelve hulls than six.

    Q&A
  48. 3:26:07
    QuestionWho besides Germany and the Soviet Union operated submarines in the Black Sea during World War II?Answer

    Turkey operated two British-derived boats; Hungary and Bulgaria did not maintain comparable World War II submarine forces.

    Q&A
  49. 3:27:52
    QuestionDid Britain normally requisition foreign ships being built in its yards when war broke out?Answer

    Yes in major wars when suitable hulls were present; Britain used them to expand the Royal Navy quickly and deny them to a possible enemy.

    Q&A
  50. 3:30:42
    How Rozhestvensky's Baltic experience prepared him for the voyage to Tsushima

    Rozhestvensky's Baltic career mattered less for one early posting than for the diplomacy and training experience needed to move a fleet toward East Asia.

    Notable Point
  51. 3:33:54
    QuestionWhen did Russian and Soviet naval power reach their respective peaks?Answer

    Imperial Russia peaked around 1815-1820, while Soviet naval power peaked around 1988-1989.

    Q&A