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Patreon 93: Old crocks at war. How useful to WWI were the old ships brought out of reserve?

Study Patreon 93: Old crocks at war. How useful to WWI were the old ships brought out of reserve?, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 4 Jan 2024, with 53 time notes. Topics include Fleet Readiness, Force Structure, Naval…

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  1. 13:21
    Reserve ships preserve fleet depth and construction continuity

    A rotating reserve can preserve useful hulls, sustain a continuous building program, and give the active fleet more options than its peacetime establishment suggests.

    Chapter
  2. 15:50
    Why World War I required a six-hundred-ship Royal Navy

    The Royal Navy's wartime strength reflected worldwide commitments, and even its roughly six hundred warships did not include the separate Patrol Service trawler force.

    Notable Point
  3. 17:40
    How nucleus crews make a reserve flotilla mobilizable

    A small permanent engineering cadre can preserve several complete ships while reservists, shore personnel, and recently discharged sailors supply wartime crews.

    Chapter
  4. 20:23
    Older escorts still matter in secondary theaters

    A ship inadequate for the primary North Atlantic threat may still escort convoys, move troops, or maintain presence where the enemy is weaker.

    Notable Point
  5. 23:34
    QuestionCould Fisher have retained enough ships for overseas presence while still achieving his fleet reductions?Answer

    Yes, but he needed to pair the reductions with some modern heavy or armored cruisers instead of relying only on light cruisers and increasingly large battlecruisers.

    Q&A
  6. 25:58
    QuestionDid the guard ships watching fishing fleets fall under the trawler command as well?Answer

    Yes. Most of those guard ships were converted trawlers.

    Q&A
  7. 26:26
    Reserve fleets need exercises and realistic readiness ratios

    Regular activation exercises and explicit deployment ratios turn nominal reserve hulls into a force that can reinforce wartime operations.

    Notable Point
  8. 27:35
    QuestionCould a wartime call-up include civilian specialists who had never formally served?Answer

    Yes. Selective call-ups can target specialist skills as well as former service, depending on the force's needs.

    Q&A
  9. 28:17
    Logistics ships and refit rotation in a reserve fleet

    Reserve auxiliaries expand wartime supply capacity, while spare combatants can rotate into service during major refits without expanding the peacetime crew bill.

    Notable Point
  10. 31:53
    Why British shipyards failed despite a huge maritime industry

    British yards exported ships worldwide, but capacity built for maximum Royal Navy demand left intense competition and vulnerable firms when orders fell.

    Notable Point
  11. 38:25
    How navies preserve or replace aviation squadron identities

    Royal Navy aviation treats squadron lineage as an institutional asset, while the US Navy has more often organized continuity around carrier air groups.

    Notable Point
  12. 40:49
    Two Bramble-class generations outlast their original era

    The 1886 and 1898 Bramble classes survived because harbor work, training, colonial policing, and shallow-water service still required gunboats.

    Chapter
  13. 41:49
    QuestionWas Thames Ironworks allowed to go bankrupt because it had misbehaved as a naval contractor?Answer

    No. The Navy did not regard the yard as having misbehaved; its dispute was tied to Winston Churchill's political campaigns.

    Q&A
  14. 45:40
    HMS Dwarf fights one of World War I's first ship actions

    Shallow draft, early radio equipment, and long experience on the African coast kept the 1898 gunboat Dwarf operational into World War I.

    Chapter
  15. 47:29
    Bramble and Britomart support the Mesopotamian campaign

    Two 1898-class gunboats moved from the China Station to Persian Gulf operations, with Britomart later finding a civilian merchant role.

    Chapter
  16. 48:58
    HMS Thistle restores sail after an African wartime career

    Thistle supported African landings and then restored her sailing rig to compensate for worn engines on the voyage home.

    Chapter
  17. 52:11
    HMAS Protector serves from colonial defense to World War II

    The 1884 gunboat Protector escorted submarines, guarded ports, tended Cerberus, swept mines, and later returned to service with the US Army.

    Chapter
  18. 57:58
    HMS Revenge adapts for bombardment on the Flanders coast

    An 1892 battleship gains range through relined guns and deliberate listing, then supports coastal bombardment and aircraft-directed gunfire experiments.

    Chapter
  19. 1:03:19
    QuestionIs a shipwreck resting vertically a unique occurrence?Answer

    No. Several vertical wrecks are known in the Great Lakes and Baltic, although the exchange does not confidently identify a particular one.

    Q&A
  20. 1:04:22
    QuestionWas USS Texas the first battleship to list deliberately so its guns could reach farther inland?Answer

    No. Redoubtable used the same method against positions near Westende in 1915, long before Texas employed it off Normandy.

    Q&A
  21. 1:05:11
    HMS Philomel becomes a foundation of New Zealand naval power

    Philomel's claim to be World War I's oldest fighting Royal Navy ship is contested, but her wartime cruises and training role clearly made her foundational to New Zealand naval power.

    Chapter
  22. 1:14:24
    A reserve fleet depends on training and support infrastructure

    Old hulks, drill ships, ports, local recruiting pools, and transport links form the supporting system that makes naval mobilization possible.

    Notable Point
  23. 1:21:43
    Germany sends old battleships from coastal defence to Jutland

    Germany's smaller capital-ship inventory kept Brandenburgs on coastal defence and brought Deutschland-class pre-dreadnoughts into the battle line at Jutland.

    Chapter
  24. 1:25:54
    Britain's qualitative challenge mattered more than Germany's numbers

    Britain could outbuild Germany quantitatively, while competitive yards and production volume reduced unit costs and shifted the real contest toward ship quality.

    Notable Point
  25. 1:28:48
    Old German cruisers release scarce modern ships for the fleet

    Support conversions and gunnery training let Germany extract value from old protected cruisers despite a persistent shortage of modern cruiser hulls.

    Chapter
  26. 1:31:13
    Victoria Louise-class cruisers briefly return as wartime scouts

    Five elderly cruisers mobilized into the Fifth Scouting Group before vulnerability and changing needs moved them into barracks and support service.

    Chapter
  27. 1:32:25
    QuestionWhy might UK rail operators taken into public control be more reliable and profitable than their private predecessors?Answer

    Publicly controlled operators may avoid the heavy debt carried by some private companies, allowing the operating business to focus on running the railway.

    Q&A
  28. 1:32:59
    Leitha returns from demobilization to fight on the Danube

    The 1872 river monitor Leitha fights around Belgrade, becomes a Danube flotilla flagship, and survives to become a museum ship.

    Chapter
  29. 1:40:37
    Marceau becomes a protected workshop for small craft

    The elderly French ironclad Marceau used her large, protected hull as a floating workshop for submarines and torpedo boats.

    Chapter
  30. 1:42:22
    Piemonte remains battle-ready and nearly becomes an aircraft carrier

    Italy kept the 1880s cruiser Piemonte in its Second Fleet and considered adding an elevated flight deck for seaplanes and wheeled aircraft.

    Chapter
  31. 1:43:17
    QuestionWhen Leitha was rediscovered, had people simply forgotten what the vessel originally was?Answer

    Yes. After conversion to river-barge use, her original identity and purpose were largely forgotten.

    Q&A
  32. 1:48:19
    QuestionWere the old ships of Italy's Second Fleet intended mainly to absorb damage for the modern fleet?Answer

    No. They were expected to follow the First Fleet and add enough numbers to defeat the enemy forces that remained.

    Q&A
  33. 1:51:02
    Old ships fill essential roles that new construction cannot cover

    A ship need not defeat a modern opponent to be valuable when bombardment, convoy escort, or support work would otherwise consume a first-line unit.

    Notable Point
  34. 1:55:42
    QuestionAt what point is an old ship no longer worth keeping in reserve?Answer

    Scrap it when useful hull life is gone or the cost of making it viable for a defined role is unreasonable, while also matching reserve numbers to realistic crews and support.

    Q&A
  35. 2:00:23
    QuestionCould the Echo-class survey ships have been placed in reserve?Answer

    Yes, but only if the Navy also maintained the specialist crews needed for survey work and a wartime role such as deploying uncrewed systems.

    Q&A
  36. 2:01:48
    The fleet at the outbreak of war shapes the opening campaigns

    Even Britain's enormous shipbuilding base needed years to deliver major warships, making early losses and prewar reserve depth strategically decisive.

    Notable Point
  37. 2:03:57
    G3 and N3 construction could feed a rotating capital-ship reserve

    Without treaty scrapping, new G3 and N3 ships could move 13.5-inch-gun veterans into reserve before later generations finally replaced them.

    Notable Point
  38. 2:05:19
    HMS Renown shows the cost of scrapping an intermediate warship

    The 1895 Renown was slower than the German armored cruisers at Coronel but offered heavier guns that could have materially reinforced the British squadron.

    Notable Point
  39. 2:07:11
    QuestionWould building the G3 and N3 classes immediately send the R-class battleships into reserve?Answer

    Probably not. The older 13.5-inch-gun ships would move first, with the R class following only after another generation entered service.

    Q&A
  40. 2:07:47
    QuestionWhat might change if the Royal Navy entered World War II with roughly one hundred reserve sloops?Answer

    More patrol and escort hulls could make Scapa Flow harder to penetrate, protect carriers and convoys, and damage the U-boat arm earlier.

    Q&A
  41. 2:11:26
    A reserve HMS Tiger could transform the River Plate pursuit

    If Tiger reinforced Harwood's cruisers, Graf Spee might be destroyed at sea and release Renown and Ark Royal for other duties.

    Notable Point
  42. 2:13:59
    Carrier survival widens British options from Norway to Crete

    If extra escorts preserve Courageous and Glorious, paired carrier operations could reshape later choices in Norway and the Mediterranean.

    Notable Point
  43. 2:16:51
    Reserve battleships could build an Indian Ocean force before Force Z

    An additional R-class battleship could let Britain establish a credible Indian Ocean squadron earlier and reduce pressure for a hurried Force Z deployment.

    Notable Point
  44. 2:18:06
    Why use Royal Sovereign as a battleship dividing line?

    The Royal Sovereign class works as a dividing line because the preceding battleships still look like developments of ironclad fleets.

    Notable Point
  45. 2:18:46
    How might HMS Tiger have been modernized for reserve service?

    A retained Tiger might trade her original 13.5-inch armament for longer 12-inch guns or common 14-inch turrets as part of a deeper modernization.

    Notable Point
  46. 2:21:48
    Naval treaties remove construction continuity and reserve depth

    Interwar treaty limits stopped continuous building and prevented Britain and America from retaining the capital-ship reserves their earlier fleet systems expected.

    Chapter
  47. 2:25:56
    QuestionCould the retained Iron Duke and related 13.5-inch-gun ships have been upgraded to 14-inch guns?Answer

    Probably. A common twin 14-inch turret could have rearmed several retained classes and made the weapon more economical to standardize.

    Q&A
  48. 2:26:56
    A treaty reserve could rotate old capital ships into new construction

    Separate reserve tonnage could retain older battleships, then move newer veterans into reserve as fresh construction replaces the oldest group.

    Notable Point
  49. 2:31:17
    Reserve ships widen the fleet's sensor and presence network

    An older ship can still add sensors, presence, and a helicopter platform even when newer destroyers carry the deepest defensive magazines.

    Notable Point
  50. 2:33:38
    Reserve modernization sustains yards and carrier depth

    A formal reserve allowance could support deeper capital-ship rebuilds, larger carrier designs, and steady modernization work for the maritime industry.

    Notable Point
  51. 2:36:59
    QuestionCould an American carrier reserve have allowed Wasp to be built as a full Yorktown-type carrier?Answer

    Potentially. Reserve allowances could alter active construction while older carriers moved into reserve or support roles.

    Q&A
  52. 2:37:49
    Judge reserve ships by the depth they add

    The key test is whether an older ship can cover a mission long enough for stronger units to refit, rearm, repair, or concentrate elsewhere.

    Notable Point
  53. 2:42:11
    QuestionShould every submarine that carried an aircraft count as an aircraft-carrier submarine?Answer

    No. Most used aircraft as auxiliary scouts, while only a smaller group was designed primarily to support aviation missions.

    Q&A