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Patreon 75: The Attack on Copenhagen in 1801 and following operations in the Danish waters
Study Patreon 75: The Attack on Copenhagen in 1801 and following operations in the Danish waters, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 16 Mar 2023, with 41 time notes. Topics include Armed Neutrality, Baltic Sea, Battle Of…
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- 10:38Copenhagen 1801: a conflict without simple villainsChapter
The opening treats the Battle of Copenhagen as a clash between legitimate Danish and British security fears, with neither side blameless.
- 15:40Why armed neutrality alarmed BritainChapter
Britain saw the League of Armed Neutrality as a potential coalition that could obstruct its blockade of France and later become openly hostile.
- 19:24The "English Wars" as a Scandinavian conflictNotable Point
The Danish label "English Wars" covers the 1801 crisis and the longer 1807-1814 struggle, although the alignments also made it a Scandinavian conflict involving outside powers.
- 20:59Danish convoys and the road to warChapter
Danish escorted trade, the Freya incident, and Russia's league placed Denmark-Norway between British blockade policy and continental coercion.
- 31:13Catherine's league and Britain's Baltic learningNotable Point
Catherine the Great's first League of Armed Neutrality constrained British sea power without becoming an offensive French partner. It also taught Britain to study the Baltic more carefully.
- 37:28Paul I and the credibility of the second leagueChapter
Paul I's volatile rule and alliance with France made the second League of Armed Neutrality look unlike Catherine's limited neutral coalition.
- 47:47Winter ice made the second league vulnerableNotable Point
Forming the coalition during the Baltic winter gave Britain time to act while Russian and allied fleets were still restricted by ice.
- 51:52Yarmouth, Baltic ice, and Britain's timetableChapter
Britain assembled the Baltic fleet at Yarmouth because it needed to act before ice released Russian forces and a larger coalition could form.
- 56:13QuestionWould it have been easy for Britain to block a fleet coming out of the Baltic?AnswerQ&A
Geographically possible, but not easy: Britain first had to neutralize the Danish fleet and might then need a very large force to contain the combined league.
- 57:26Hyde Parker and Nelson as a command pairNotable Point
The British command arrangement paired Hyde Parker's cautious, diplomatic reliability with Nelson's aggressive fighting reputation.
- 1:01:01QuestionCould a Kiel Canal have been built with the technology available around 1800?AnswerQ&A
Theoretically yes, but it would have required a very large workforce.
- 1:08:13Olfert Fischer and disrupted Danish commandChapter
Danish commander Olfert Fischer fought through a collapsing command position as the Dannebrog and then his next ship were disabled.
- 1:13:18Crown Prince Frederick and the limits of fixed strategyNotable Point
Crown Prince Frederick's rigid view of how events ought to unfold contributed to Denmark-Norway's predicament because it did not match the existing balance of power.
- 1:17:03Bille's gunboats as an asymmetric naval strategyNotable Point
Steen Andersen Bille advocated gunboats as a practical response to British sea power, an approach also used in American policy around the War of 1812.
- 1:19:44Steen Andersen Bille's formation as a naval officerChapter
Bille's career connected convoy protection, long-distance sailing, cadet training, and practical comparison of older and newer Danish warships.
- 1:29:42Copenhagen's unprepared fleet and vulnerable command postChapter
Denmark-Norway knew a British fleet was likely to return, yet left useful warships inactive and put the harbour defence commander aboard a vulnerable floating battery.
- 1:36:01The forces at Copenhagen and the role of bomb vesselsNotable Point
Nelson's striking squadron was substantial but limited, while bomb vessels gave Britain a way to threaten Copenhagen beyond the anchored Danish line.
- 1:41:41Parker's outer-inward Baltic strategyNotable Point
Parker rejected a direct dash at Russia because he could not leave Danish naval power behind him while moving deeper into the Baltic.
- 1:43:46Copenhagen's defences and Hardy's soundingsChapter
Anchored Danish ships, shore batteries, shoals, and uncertain charts made Copenhagen a formidable harbour target while exposing gaps in its defence plan.
- 1:52:05Nelson's creeping, anchored attackChapter
Nelson planned to move along the weaker southern end of the Danish line, anchoring successive British ships beside individual opponents.
- 1:55:41Danish reserves and gunnery under pressureChapter
The anchored Danish line fought hard, but mobile northern reserves stayed out of the battle and strained manpower weakened both ships and shore batteries.
- 1:58:20The recall signal and Nelson's decisionNotable Point
Parker's famous recall signal gave Nelson cover to withdraw if necessary; Nelson instead judged the battle worth continuing.
- 2:01:08QuestionWhy did Parker not send a few ships from his reserve to reinforce Nelson?AnswerQ&A
They probably could not arrive in time, and Parker still needed the reserve to cover against possible enemy reinforcements.
- 2:03:58The Danish line collapses and command passes ashoreNotable Point
Two Danish vessels sank during an attempted withdrawal, while repeated moves between damaged command posts forced Fischer to pass control of the remaining force to another captain.
- 2:04:57Ceasefire, casualties, and captured shipsChapter
Nelson used the threat of burning captured floating batteries to open a ceasefire, but the battle's human and material cost remained severe.
- 2:10:13Armistice, Paul I's death, and the league's collapseChapter
The battle opened negotiations, but Paul I's assassination removed the political foundation of the League of Armed Neutrality.
- 2:13:19Holstein's later career as HMS NassauNotable Point
The captured Danish ship Holstein became HMS Nassau and later fought against Denmark again during the Gunboat War era.
- 2:20:08The Baltic campaign after CopenhagenChapter
After Copenhagen, Parker pressured Sweden before Nelson moved east, only to find that Russian naval movement and diplomacy had already changed the campaign.
- 2:22:45QuestionWas identifying a "strange sail" mainly a command team's experienced gut feeling?AnswerQ&A
Yes; it meant that a vessel's course or behaviour looked wrong to experienced seamen, which was enough reason to investigate.
- 2:25:30Nelson's path from Copenhagen to TrafalgarNotable Point
After Copenhagen, Nelson's public standing survived a politically awkward court appearance before he returned to major command in the Mediterranean.
- 2:31:32Why first-rate ships resisted mass productionNotable Point
HMS Victory was not a simple production template: first rates were too powerful, costly, and important to avoid developing individual differences.
- 2:37:51QuestionDid Denmark learn from the 1801 attack before the British returned in 1807?AnswerQ&A
Not enough. The 1807 defences still showed inadequate preparation and organization.
- 2:38:06QuestionWhich country carried out more preemptive strikes, Britain or Japan?AnswerQ&A
Britain, by a wide margin. British examples range from gunboat deployments to wars built around preemptive action.
- 2:39:12QuestionWhat does the naval term "Copenhagening" mean?AnswerQ&A
It means catching an enemy fleet in harbour and trying to destroy it in detail before it can operate.
- 2:44:31QuestionIf you could choose any land regiment for a Trafalgar-era boarding party, whom would you select?AnswerQ&A
For Britain, the Royal Marines are the first choice. The key requirement is troops suited to violent close-quarters fighting aboard ship.
- 2:48:41QuestionWould a very fast liner such as Oceanic need a heavy escort?AnswerQ&A
Often no: a liner fast enough to outrun threats could travel alone, while an escort matching that pace risked wearing out its machinery.
- 2:49:49QuestionWould Gurkhas be a good choice for shipboard fighting?AnswerQ&A
Yes. Their training and experience suit boarding and close-quarters fighting aboard ships.
- 2:50:52QuestionWas the postwar British-American airliner rivalry mainly a technology race or a numbers race?AnswerQ&A
It was a technology race shaped by national prestige.
- 2:51:13QuestionWould troops equipped with medieval armour and shields have an advantage in an age-of-sail boarding action?AnswerQ&A
Only in limited circumstances; the equipment could help inside the ship but would hinder movement and offer little protection from musket fire during the approach.
- 2:56:15British capacity to build RMMV OceanicNotable Point
Britain retained enough facilities to build the planned Oceanic, and producing one liner was easier than sustaining a capital-ship programme.
- 2:57:37Comet 4 as luxury, style, and imageNotable Point
The de Havilland Comet 4 was an airliner whose appeal rested on luxury, style, and national image as well as technical statistics.