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Quirky Classes and What they tell us about their navies… (Live)
Study Quirky Classes and What they tell us about their navies… (Live), a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 6 Jan 2022, with 63 time notes. Topics include Cruisers, Live Q&A, Naval Aviation.
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- 2:02QuestionWas HMS Hood reaching the end of her service life before she was sunk?AnswerQ&A
Not particularly; she needed a major upgrade, but that reflected rapid technological change rather than the simple exhaustion of her service life.
- 2:42QuestionDo USS Michigan, Wolverine, and Sable qualify as uniquely quirky American warships?AnswerQ&A
Michigan's paddle propulsion was not unusual for its era, while Wolverine and Sable are most revealing as urgent carrier-pilot training conversions.
- 6:42QuestionWould an older capital ship such as HMS Hood have been converted into an aircraft carrier?AnswerQ&A
Probably not; by the Second World War the Royal Navy preferred purpose-built carriers, while its earlier conversions largely reflected available hulls and treaty constraints.
- 8:27QuestionWhy does the Hawkins class often seem unsatisfactory?AnswerQ&A
Because ships with light-cruiser origins were forced into the emerging heavy-cruiser role.
- 9:04QuestionCould a wooden aircraft carrier be converted into a battleship, and what would it look like?AnswerQ&A
It is possible in principle, but a Lexington-style battlecruiser is the more meaningful model for thinking through the result.
- 11:32QuestionIn a Falklands War wargame, would a mixed four-carrier force, new CVA-01s, or refitted Malta-class carriers change the outcome most?AnswerQ&A
Refitted Malta-class carriers, because their existence implies a more uniform and thoroughly worked-up carrier force rather than a collection of dissimilar ships.
- 13:53Faà di Bruno: a floating 15-inch batteryChapter
An Italian monitor shows how shore bombardment could produce an extraordinarily slow but heavily armed specialist vessel.
- 19:05Grillo-class boats and harbour obstaclesNotable Point
The tracked Grillo boats reveal an Italian attempt to turn a torpedo attack into an obstacle-crossing raid.
- 30:01X1 and the case for a cruiser submarineChapter
The Royal Navy's X1 tests whether a large gun submarine could raid commerce in a Pacific war.
- 36:16QuestionDid the sinking of HMS M1 kill off the Royal Navy's cruiser-submarine concept?AnswerQ&A
Not by itself; the disappointing service performance of M1 and related experiments did more to discredit the concept.
- 38:58Why Lexington carried 8-inch gunsNotable Point
Lexington's heavy cruiser guns expose an early carrier doctrine that still expected surface scouting and fighting.
- 41:50QuestionHow would HMS X1 have fared in a surface action against a German auxiliary cruiser?AnswerQ&A
Very badly; it would have to rely on torpedoes because its gun armament did not make it survivable in a surface duel.
- 42:31QuestionWhat was the logic behind several navies experimenting with cruiser submarines?AnswerQ&A
Gun ammunition allowed many more attacks on merchant ships, leaving the submarine's limited torpedoes available for enemy warships.
- 43:20QuestionWere the Lexington-class carriers' 8-inch guns genuinely dual-purpose weapons?AnswerQ&A
Not in practical terms; their roughly forty-one-degree maximum elevation made them poor anti-aircraft weapons.
- 45:51QuestionWere Lexington's 8-inch guns preferable to Graf Zeppelin's broadside 6-inch battery?AnswerQ&A
Neither was ideal; more 5-inch or 4.5-inch dual-purpose guns would have been more useful on an aircraft carrier.
- 46:14QuestionDid Australia operate warships that could be considered quirky?AnswerQ&A
Yes; the strongest examples are likely in the separate colonial navies before Australian Federation.
- 48:36A Lexington model photograph and US Navy bureau politicsNotable Point
A photograph of Lexington design models becomes a visual clue to the competing engineering, construction, and aviation institutions behind early US carriers.
- 55:09Surcouf's gun submarine compromisesChapter
Surcouf shows how combining a submarine with heavy guns created severe handling, firing and survivability problems.
- 58:31QuestionWhy did HMS Furious carry fewer aircraft than Courageous and Glorious?AnswerQ&A
Her different conversion retained awkward internal exhaust routing and no conventional island, using space that the later reconstructions could devote to aviation.
- 59:23QuestionDid the Royal Navy's M-class submarines predate X1?AnswerQ&A
Yes, but their continued service and modifications overlapped X1's 1926 appearance.
- 1:03:35What Surcouf says about interwar FranceNotable Point
A radical submarine design is linked to France's effort to protect an empire while facing European land threats.
- 1:05:31QuestionCould Surcouf's heavy-gun turret rotate, and how usable was it in combat?AnswerQ&A
It could rotate, but long preparation, strict motion limits, weak fire-control height, and only fourteen rounds per gun made it dangerously impractical.
- 1:10:20QuestionWould fitting anti-ship missiles such as Styx have made Surcouf's concept work?AnswerQ&A
No; a different weapon would not have cured the submarine's fundamental platform and operating problems.
- 1:12:26QuestionHow long did a submarine with a conventional deck gun need to open fire after surfacing?AnswerQ&A
Usually seconds and under a minute, far less than Surcouf's roughly three-and-a-half-minute preparation time.
- 1:13:10QuestionWas a 6-inch deck gun the most useful surface weapon for a submarine such as USS Nautilus?AnswerQ&A
A 4-inch deck gun would be preferable.
- 1:14:22Deutschland class: keeping naval skills aliveChapter
The Deutschland class is examined less as an ideal raider than as a way to preserve German naval capability after Versailles.
- 1:22:13QuestionWould replacing Deutschland's triple 11-inch turrets with twin 8-inch mountings have produced a better ship?AnswerQ&A
It could have produced a relatively capable heavy cruiser.
- 1:22:22QuestionWere the Deutschland-class ships intended as effective fleet flagships?AnswerQ&A
No; replacing pre-dreadnought flagships did not make them convincing flagship designs.
- 1:25:14QuestionWhat alternative follow-on designs did Germany consider for the Deutschland class?AnswerQ&A
The planned D class kept six 11-inch guns but added displacement, protection, turbine power, and speed before Scharnhorst superseded it.
- 1:28:07QuestionWould putting both Deutschland turrets forward prevent the ship from firing while retreating?AnswerQ&A
Not entirely; it could withdraw at an angle or weave to bring the forward battery onto the pursuer.
- 1:28:36QuestionWhy was Hitler especially concerned about the Royal Navy sinking a ship named Deutschland?AnswerQ&A
Because losing a ship named for Germany would have been a serious symbolic defeat for a dictatorship whose legitimacy depended heavily on projecting strength.
- 1:30:35Gotland's seaplanes and Baltic reconnaissanceNotable Point
Sweden's Gotland demonstrates both the promise and weather limits of cruiser-borne seaplanes.
- 1:40:17Why destroyers charge larger warshipsNotable Point
A tactical explanation shows why lightly armed destroyers can improve their odds by closing with heavier opponents.
- 1:43:50Tone class and the need to find the enemyChapter
Tone's all-forward guns and aft aviation facilities are read as an answer to Japanese fleet-reconnaissance anxiety.
- 1:51:55QuestionWas Tone's pyramid turret arrangement an efficient way to concentrate heavy guns and armour?AnswerQ&A
It could shorten the armoured space in principle, but Tone's long forward layout made the superfiring turret's extra weight difficult to justify.
- 1:52:19Abdiel class: speed as minelaying powerChapter
The exceptionally fast Abdiel class links high power, mine warfare and the Royal Navy's Far Eastern planning.
- 1:55:05Convertible liners versus Japan's hybrid battleshipsNotable Point
A counterfactual contrasts desperate battleship-flight-deck conversions with a preplanned reserve of fast liners that could become small carriers.
- 1:56:26QuestionWere British cruiser floatplanes kept in hangars or simply jettisoned when necessary?AnswerQ&A
They were normally kept in hangars and launched, although jettisoning and destructive hangar fires did occur.
- 1:56:55QuestionIs the story that HMS Manxman overhauled a US carrier group during the Suez Crisis true?AnswerQ&A
Yes, the story is affirmed in this discussion.
- 1:57:54QuestionDid Abdiel-class minelayers outrun Tribal-class destroyers on operations?AnswerQ&A
Yes; they reportedly did so on several occasions and were extremely difficult to match in open water.
- 2:00:00QuestionWhat naval forces might an independent India have needed to compete with Japan?AnswerQ&A
Fast minelayers, carriers, cruisers, and perhaps battleships, backed by much stronger naval infrastructure and yards.
- 2:00:44QuestionDo modern outboard-powered boats go faster than the Abdiel class?AnswerQ&A
Some may be slightly faster, but not while carrying anything close to an Abdiel's displacement, mines, guns, and protection.
- 2:02:39QuestionWhich museum ships can visitors see today that qualify as quirky?AnswerQ&A
HMS M33 and HMS Unicorn are good examples, while Turbinia in Newcastle preserves the pioneering turbine demonstrator.
- 2:03:48QuestionWere the Abdiel-class minelayers the fastest ships above destroyer size built before the 1950s?AnswerQ&A
Judging by the available accounts, yes; their speed was exceptional for warships of that size and era.
- 2:04:32HMS Unicorn and distant fleet aviation supportNotable Point
HMS Unicorn shows that sustaining carrier aviation at distance required a dedicated support ship, not just another carrier.
- 2:09:52QuestionWas the merchant ship in the Tsingtao Incident probably smuggling weapons to Chinese Nationalists?AnswerQ&A
Probably not; the search produced no public evidence of weapons, making ordinary customs evasion and direct trade with China more plausible.
- 2:13:40QuestionDid HMS Unicorn have to serve as a light fleet carrier when other British carriers were unavailable?AnswerQ&A
Yes; she filled parts of Hermes's and Eagle's roles and also served as flagship for escort-carrier groups.
- 2:14:33Pegasus and Bras d'Or: hydrofoil promiseChapter
Cold War hydrofoils promised extraordinary speed for NATO coastal warfare but struggled to justify their fleet role.
- 2:21:40QuestionWhy did the Royal Navy not buy Pegasus-class hydrofoils?AnswerQ&A
Because aircraft and submarines could already attack North Sea shipping, while hydrofoil procurement would take money from higher naval priorities.
- 2:25:53QuestionHow well do hydrofoils work in heavy seas such as the North Atlantic?AnswerQ&A
It depends on the design; some hydrofoils handle rough conditions better than others.
- 2:26:14QuestionWas Pegasus partly a case of a navy seeking funding for a mission another branch could perform more cheaply?AnswerQ&A
Yes; service ownership and funding incentives helped make a naval platform attractive despite competing aircraft and submarine options.
- 2:26:42Kirov class and a one-salvo fleet fightChapter
The immense Kirov-class missile cruiser is explained as a Soviet answer to a short, violent confrontation with a carrier force.
- 2:30:26QuestionWere Kirov-class battlecruisers still being built in 2022?AnswerQ&A
No; the programme had shifted to operating or refitting survivors while older and unfinished hulls were scrapped or cancelled.
- 2:31:56QuestionWas a Kirov task group a reversal of the Western carrier battle group, with the aviation ship supporting the missile cruiser?AnswerQ&A
To an extent, yes; the aviation ship helped the missile cruiser reach the position from which it could launch its decisive salvo.
- 2:36:17Visby class and Swedish Baltic defenceNotable Point
Sweden's Visby-class corvettes combine stealth, missiles, torpedoes and mine warfare for fighting close to home.
- 2:37:04QuestionDo Kirov-class ships need to sail with ocean-going tugs?AnswerQ&A
Not as a routine propulsion requirement, though support may still be kept nearby.
- 2:42:48QuestionIs the Pohjanmaa class underarmed with only one fitted 8-cell Mk 41 launcher and a limited anti-ship battery?AnswerQ&A
It appears light unless the second launcher can be fitted quickly and the existing cells carry compact missiles, and a deeper magazine would still be preferable.
- 2:44:06Zumwalt: a capable hull in a broken programmeChapter
The Zumwalt class separates a strong warship hull from the procurement choices that left its original mission unfinished.
- 2:51:47QuestionCould a Zumwalt follow-on become a kind of mini-Kirov?AnswerQ&A
It could carry a comparable number of missiles, although that would not make the two ships identical in role or design.
- 2:53:23A year of cruiser historyNotable Point
The closing outline links a planned series on cruisers to the centenary of the Washington Naval Treaty.
- 2:57:22QuestionHow do Zumwalt's crew requirements compare with those of an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer?AnswerQ&A
Zumwalt uses fewer sailors than a Burke, and its automation could support an even smaller crew than it currently carries.
- 2:57:51Why Japanese railgun defence could disrupt missile salvosNotable Point
A Japanese railgun used for missile defence could challenge an attacker's ability to rely on numerical saturation.
- 3:04:20Pig Wars, Cow Wars, and the Emu WarNotable Point
A closing joke becomes a compact tour of animal-named conflicts and a reminder that amusing labels can conceal very different political disputes.