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Patreon Video 1: What would you put in warehouses at the end of WWI for WWII if you could?
Study Patreon Video 1: What would you put in warehouses at the end of WWI for WWII if you could?, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 6 Jul 2020, with 64 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Convoy Escort, Naval…
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- 5:45Setting realistic limits for an interwar reserveChapter
The counterfactual starts with an officer who must work within British politics, treaty scrutiny, and practical secrecy rather than simply hide a battle fleet.
- 8:15Why stored ammunition and mines outlast old hullsNotable Point
Ammunition and mines can remain useful for decades when stored in controlled conditions, making them more plausible reserves than entire warships.
- 10:19The R class and Britain's fast-capital-ship alternativeNotable Point
The aside contrasts the disappointing R-class battleships with Renown and Repulse, then imagines Hood emerging from a consistent fast-battleship programme.
- 11:49QuestionCould old armoured cruisers be hidden as coal-service ships with their guns stored nearby?AnswerQ&A
Possibly, but idle hulls would be difficult to maintain and reactivate after twenty years, especially without trained crews.
- 13:46Armour plate and optics as a reserve of industrial capacityNotable Point
Stored armour sections, gun components, and rangefinders could ease a future construction surge where specialist industrial capacity is scarce.
- 16:00QuestionCould old destroyers be kept through the interwar years by converting them to coast-guard duties?AnswerQ&A
Yes, if they had credible duties and reduced armament; the real gain would be retained crews, maintenance practice, and a pathway to later replacement ships.
- 18:15QuestionWould it be worth stockpiling 13.5-inch ammunition for a rapid rearmament programme?AnswerQ&A
No; the better reserve is ammunition for weapons with plausible later service, with 15-inch guns and common medium calibres offering much more value.
- 19:16QuestionCould additional Admiral-class hulls have become aircraft carriers instead of completed battlecruisers?AnswerQ&A
Potentially; their unfinished, fast battlecruiser hulls made them attractive candidates for a carrier conversion in an alternate interwar programme.
- 20:05QuestionCould a private owner keep a capital ship outside naval treaty tonnage?AnswerQ&A
The legal idea is intriguing, but the cost of owning and operating a capital ship makes it implausible; a disarmed royal yacht would be more credible.
- 20:47Lifeboat construction as a latent naval industrial baseNotable Point
Civilian lifeboat procurement can keep several small-vessel designers, hull forms, and engine suppliers active for a navy that later needs patrol craft.
- 22:20QuestionCould surplus destroyers become long-range colonial or Commonwealth coast-guard vessels?AnswerQ&A
Yes; a genuine civil-security role could preserve crews and stimulate replacement construction, while producing more usable escort capacity by the start of war.
- 28:15QuestionCould the Royal Navy have kept and grown a larger seaplane force after 1918?AnswerQ&A
Possibly, by retaining a modest initial establishment and adding squadrons incrementally for maritime communications and patrol work.
- 29:50Why the RNAS could not preserve a separate carrier force in 1918Chapter
The creation of the Royal Air Force absorbed a technically effective naval air service whose carrier component was still too small to justify institutional independence.
- 31:31Why maritime patrol is the aviation capability to saveChapter
The loss of long-range maritime patrol matters more to this counterfactual than trying to preserve a mature carrier air arm that had barely formed in 1918.
- 41:06QuestionWhat are the vertical plates above a seaplane's wings for?AnswerQ&A
They improve roll stability and clean up airflow, making water takeoffs and landings smoother as the aircraft moves between two very different surfaces.
- 42:20Ammunition dumps must be safe, concealed, and reachableNotable Point
The useful warehouse plan is constrained by explosive safety, storage conditions, transportation, and the danger of making reserve locations too obvious.
- 44:22A rebuild can preserve capacity by changing a ship's roleNotable Point
Royal Navy reconstruction practice suggests that an older cruiser could survive by emerging as an almost new seaplane tender rather than remaining frozen in its original role.
- 45:15A treaty ceiling can also become a naval budget floorNotable Point
Naval limitation agreements can restrain arms races while also helping a navy argue that it must maintain a politically accepted level of strength.
- 47:45Royal Naval Air Service logistics as an operational advantageNotable Point
The Royal Naval Air Service's technical supply culture gave it a stronger base for keeping aircraft and personnel functioning than many army aviation arrangements.
- 49:30QuestionWould you discard the R-class battleships and build a second squadron of Queen Elizabeth-class ships instead?AnswerQ&A
Yes; the preferred alternative is a slightly enlarged Queen Elizabeth with longer range and twelve 15-inch guns, making it more useful beyond European waters.
- 51:28QuestionHow did the First World War affect the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve?AnswerQ&A
It strengthened the RNVR's standing, because its trained sailors and officers performed well enough to overcome pre-war doubts about non-seafaring recruits.
- 52:52QuestionCould the Navy encourage trawlers and leisure craft that it could arm and requisition as convoy escorts?AnswerQ&A
Yes; building the wartime call-up into commercial contracts is a practical way to create a useful reserve of vessels and crews.
- 57:24QuestionWere large landplanes considered for Coastal Command?AnswerQ&A
They were considered, but Coastal Command remained a lower priority than the Fleet Air Arm and Fighter Command through much of the interwar period.
- 1:00:00QuestionCould an operational battleship be hidden in plain sight as a museum ship during the treaty era?AnswerQ&A
It might be framed as a Jutland memorial, but public visibility, treaty scrutiny, and the need to protect naval secrets make it an implausible concealed reserve.
- 1:03:05The danger of buying naval technology at the wrong momentNotable Point
A major navy can damage itself by buying during the wrong part of a technology curve, even when the equipment looks advanced at the time.
- 1:07:15QuestionCould retaining and rearming older destroyers have avoided the need for the Danae-class light cruisers?AnswerQ&A
Not simply; the Danaes used available tonnage for a familiar light-cruiser requirement, though more destroyers might have freed cruiser tonnage for a larger type.
- 1:07:57QuestionHow were rising officers such as Reginald Henderson prepared for high command?AnswerQ&A
Henderson received Far East staff experience and studied Japan, putting him on a plausible path to command Britain's eastern naval forces around 1940.
- 1:10:10QuestionDid Royal Navy hull technology change so much between the world wars that older ships were no longer useful?AnswerQ&A
No; newer hulls were more efficient, but older small escorts could still provide valuable early-war anti-submarine coverage.
- 1:11:40QuestionWhich RNLI-style boat could be armed for Royal Navy use, and how?AnswerQ&A
The Tamar class is suggested as a useful hull, with a 30 mm gun, lightweight missiles, and a compact command arrangement for a small attack or patrol craft.
- 1:14:48QuestionWould retaining older V and W destroyers be worthwhile under the treaty system?AnswerQ&A
Yes; they became useful escort assets, and treaty definitions offered more room for smaller vessels that no longer carried torpedoes.
- 1:18:45QuestionWere old six-inch guns and pre-war Town-class cruisers worth retaining?AnswerQ&A
Six-inch guns were useful and were used in the Second World War, but many pre-war Town hulls had been worked too hard to be attractive reserves.
- 1:20:18Why multi-bearing torpedo salvos are harder to evadeNotable Point
A mass of torpedoes from one ship is easier to evade than coordinated attacks launched by several ships from different bearings.
- 1:22:00QuestionCould 12-pounder naval guns have been useful as early Second World War anti-tank weapons?AnswerQ&A
Potentially; six-pounders did receive a second life in that role, and a 12-pounder would have been a credible weapon to consider.
- 1:24:01Why a major rebuild can cost less than a new shipNotable Point
A major warship rebuild can be expensive but still compare well with new construction because it preserves existing armour and structural material.
- 1:31:29QuestionIs a heavily missile-armed amphibious support ship a good way to add firepower?AnswerQ&A
It is an interesting option, but loading more missiles onto an amphibious ship makes a vessel that must approach the coast a more attractive target.
- 1:38:42QuestionCould a Fletcher-class destroyer replace its five original guns one-for-one with modern 5-inch/54 or 5-inch/62 mounts?AnswerQ&A
Not easily; the newer weapons would require extensive hull bracing, so a paper one-for-one replacement could overstrain the ship.
- 1:39:45QuestionWhich navy was best prepared for the Second World War in 1939?AnswerQ&A
The Royal Navy, because it had used First World War experience most effectively for the war that actually began in 1939.
- 1:43:17QuestionWhat if the Royal Navy had scrapped its old fleet and rebuilt it in the late 1920s?AnswerQ&A
It could have produced an interesting force, but it would still need substantial modernisation by the 1940s because naval warfare had changed again.
- 1:44:41QuestionWhich Second World War ship would you save for the Falklands War, and which Falklands ship would you retain for modern use?AnswerQ&A
Town-class cruisers would add valuable six-inch gunfire in 1982, while Hermes is the Falklands ship worth modernising as a later commando carrier.
- 1:45:49QuestionWould retaining sloops and similar small ships have helped the Royal Navy at the start of the Second World War?AnswerQ&A
Yes; a larger small-ship reserve could have eased the escort shortage and reduced the need to divert resources from larger warships.
- 1:47:43QuestionWhat is your view of the Indian Navy's newer warship designs?AnswerQ&A
They are progressing beyond their Russian lineage, but India still needs more design generations to produce ships consistently tailored to its own strategic needs.
- 1:49:18QuestionDid limited interwar funds mean Britain could not stockpile useful naval material?AnswerQ&A
No; a tremendous amount was already stored, so the counterfactual asks how that real practice could have been directed more deliberately.
- 1:51:29QuestionDid any navy experience cruiser growth comparable to the United States after the treaty limits ended?AnswerQ&A
Not to the same extent; other navies expanded different ship types, while the Royal Navy still needed numbers of conventional cruisers rather than only very large ones.
- 1:53:33QuestionCould General Belgrano have carried out the traditional cruiser role against the British task force?AnswerQ&A
She could have caused trouble with missiles, but a gun action would expose her to the task force's ships, aircraft, and submarines and was unlikely to succeed.
- 1:54:43QuestionBeyond guns and fittings, could major hull sections such as bows be stored as reserves?AnswerQ&A
Yes; a spare bow or stern could be valuable for rapid repair, especially where battle damage removes a large but replaceable section of a destroyer.
- 1:56:44QuestionWhich three First World War Royal Navy ships would you preserve as museums?AnswerQ&A
Warspite, a Town-class cruiser, and one representative First World War destroyer would provide the strongest three-ship selection.
- 1:58:13QuestionHow would an Alaska-class large cruiser fare against Yamato?AnswerQ&A
Badly; Yamato's protection, 18-inch guns, and radar-assisted fire control are expected to overwhelm Alaska.
- 1:59:40QuestionWhich closed British naval sites would be most worth reopening?AnswerQ&A
Greenwich Naval College is the priority, with selected dockyard facilities also valuable; Greenwich kept naval education close to government and national life.
- 2:00:32QuestionCould Eagle or Victorious have used surviving Phantoms and Buccaneers in the Falklands War?AnswerQ&A
Possibly, but the carrier group would also need Gannets, the critical missing part of the proposed air group.
- 2:03:11QuestionWhen did the Royal Navy become predominantly oil-fired?AnswerQ&A
By the late 1920s or early 1930s, with the transition accelerating as the remaining large coal-fired ships left service.
- 2:04:06QuestionWhat would you keep from the German High Seas Fleet after the First World War?AnswerQ&A
For the Royal Navy, nothing: German machinery and maintenance systems would create a costly logistical problem while British ships already covered the needed roles.
- 2:05:45QuestionCould the Royal Navy have kept Eagle and Victorious while still building nuclear attack submarines?AnswerQ&A
Yes, but only with sustained funding for their air groups and escorts as well as submarines; the fleet needs a planned transition, not simply preserved carriers.
- 2:08:52How STOVL requirements shape F-35 programme costsNotable Point
The Royal Navy and US Marine Corps gain a top-tier short-takeoff aircraft from the shared F-35 family, while STOVL compromises and costs are spread across the wider programme.
- 2:09:59Air defence at sea aims to disrupt an attackNotable Point
Naval air defence need not destroy every attacker; forcing aircraft to break formation, release weapons early, or abandon an attack can protect the force.
- 2:10:45QuestionWhich surviving High Seas Fleet ship would you preserve as a museum?AnswerQ&A
SMS Seydlitz, because her wartime record makes her the most compelling representative even though German ships were poor additions to Royal Navy service.
- 2:13:34Carrier strike skills cannot be rebuilt at onceNotable Point
Once Britain reorganised maritime strike around land-based aircraft, restoring distant carrier strike required rebuilding an entire operating system rather than buying one aircraft type.
- 2:14:57QuestionHow would Nagato compare with Renown and Repulse against the Japanese battle line?AnswerQ&A
Nagato is the stronger and newer design, closer to a Queen Elizabeth than to the less protected Renown and Repulse.
- 2:18:48QuestionHow would Renown fare against a reconstructed Kongo-class battlecruiser?AnswerQ&A
Renown is favoured as the better-value reconstruction, though the Kongos remained useful fast support ships for Japan's carriers.
- 2:23:14QuestionShould an arsenal ship serve as the close-defence vessel for a carrier?AnswerQ&A
Its better role is the strike arm of a distributed group supported by a control ship, unmanned surface escorts, and a few manned close escorts.
- 2:26:00QuestionDo guided-missile submarines already serve as a form of arsenal ship?AnswerQ&A
Yes; SSGNs are submerged arsenal ships and can serve alongside SSBNs in a mixed strategic-submarine force.
- 2:27:15QuestionHow useful are missile boats in the modern Chinese or Russian style?AnswerQ&A
They are excellent for a defensive war near the coast, where numerous small launch platforms can add a difficult layer to a wider anti-access defence.
- 2:28:54QuestionHow do the Audacious and Centaur classes, especially Hermes, fit into post-war carrier development?AnswerQ&A
They form an evolutionary path from light-fleet carriers toward a more capable armoured strike-carrier role.
- 2:30:20QuestionWhich Royal Navy ship classes are next for replacement?AnswerQ&A
The Type 45 is the clearest near-term replacement issue, while Albion and Bulwark should give way to LHDs with broader capability.
- 2:32:01QuestionWould 13.5-inch or 15-inch guns be better for a stored Singapore coastal-defence reserve?AnswerQ&A
Fifteen-inch guns are preferred, though a mix could work if both calibres had adequate high-explosive ammunition and a realistic defensive role.