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Patreon 63: Escort carriers, the idea, designs, development and notable operations

Study Patreon 63: Escort carriers, the idea, designs, development and notable operations, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 29 Sept 2022, with 63 time notes. Topics include Amphibious Warfare, Anti-Submarine Warfare, Battle…

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  1. 2:00
    Why Britain did not build escort carriers before the war

    Treaty tonnage, Treasury limits, and competing rearmament demands explain why prewar escort-carrier plans did not become ships.

    Chapter
  2. 7:42
    QuestionWhy did Britain keep to the treaty carrier limit when other powers were already bending the rules?Answer

    An open breach would free every other navy to exceed its limits, and Britain still wanted the treaty's spending restraint.

    Q&A
  3. 8:21
    QuestionIf HMS Argus had entered service before the First World War ended, would she have been useful?Answer

    Yes. She probably would have joined HMS Furious in a carrier strike against a German naval base.

    Q&A
  4. 9:28
    QuestionCould Britain exclude Argus and Hermes from treaty limits by classifying them as something other than fleet carriers?Answer

    No. The treaty counted total carrier tonnage, so changing the ships' subclass labels would not remove them from the national allowance.

    Q&A
  5. 14:39
    QuestionWhat would an escort-carrier clause in the London naval treaties have required?Answer

    A separate national tonnage allowance for carriers under 10,000 tons could have protected fleet-carrier tonnage and encouraged small-carrier construction.

    Q&A
  6. 16:40
    QuestionWas carrier doctrine still unsettled until the war was well underway?Answer

    Each navy had already developed a distinct doctrine suited to its own strategy and equipment, and those doctrines continued evolving during the war.

    Q&A
  7. 18:35
    Why the Board of Trade resisted merchant-carrier conversions

    Converting merchant hulls forced officials to trade visible cargo capacity and revenue against protection from larger future shipping losses.

    Notable Point
  8. 20:11
    QuestionShould the Invincible class be considered modern escort carriers?Answer

    No; their larger air groups and ability to perform both strike and escort tasks make light carrier the better description.

    Q&A
  9. 21:21
    QuestionHow would British, American, and Japanese carrier doctrines have worked in different theaters?Answer

    American methods could adapt to the Atlantic, British methods would fight the Pacific differently, and Japanese doctrine would likely burn through pilots quickly in the Mediterranean.

    Q&A
  10. 23:56
    QuestionHow many fighters were needed for a convoy combat air patrol?Answer

    About eighteen for a standing patrol, but most escort carriers carried six to eight and launched them when radar detected a threat.

    Q&A
  11. 24:51
    Why merely forcing a U-boat to dive mattered

    Aircraft could neutralize surface-running submarines by forcing them underwater, slowing them for sonar-equipped escorts.

    Chapter
  12. 28:11
    A squadron of Hermes-sized carriers

    A Hermes just under 10,000 tons might have encouraged a British small-carrier program and a treaty category to match.

    Notable Point
  13. 29:38
    QuestionWould the Alaska-class hull shape have produced too small an air group for carrier conversion?Answer

    No; the long hull could support a workable carrier, but the conversion would be costly and competed with advocates of the original large-cruiser design.

    Q&A
  14. 32:02
    Hermes as Force H's anti-submarine carrier

    A Hermes air group weighted toward Swordfish could have supplied Force H with a dedicated anti-submarine screen.

    Notable Point
  15. 37:09
    Convoy defense is measured by arrivals, not U-boats sunk

    The decisive convoy metric was delivering merchant ships, even if no attacking submarine was destroyed.

    Chapter
  16. 39:05
    QuestionWere Independence-class carriers converted mainly because there were not enough guns to complete their cruiser hulls?Answer

    Not entirely. The guns could have been built, while converting the hulls into light carriers offered a useful alternative capability.

    Q&A
  17. 40:52
    Why naval anti-aircraft fire did not need a kill

    Gun layouts reflected expected attack geometry, and disrupting an attack could matter more than shooting the aircraft down.

    Chapter
  18. 43:58
    QuestionCould early helicopters or autogyros have replaced fixed-wing aircraft in anti-submarine patrols?Answer

    Not effectively; they lacked the endurance, sensors, reliability, and search coverage that made the Swordfish useful.

    Q&A
  19. 45:59
    How the Swordfish hunted submarines

    Radar, depth charges, and rockets let the Swordfish find surfaced submarines and damage their ability to dive.

    Chapter
  20. 50:05
    QuestionWhat were the size and characteristics of the Swordfish's surface-search radar?Answer

    ASV Mark II operated around 176 MHz with a broad beam and roughly one-to-forty-mile range, though the precise installation weight and wavelength are treated cautiously.

    Q&A
  21. 53:09
    Why HMS Unicorn outranked an escort carrier

    When extra funding appeared, the Royal Navy preferred Unicorn's aviation-support and carrier-development value to a narrower escort carrier.

    Chapter
  22. 54:38
    The case for a continuous Empire sloop program

    Recurring Empire-wide sloop construction could have preserved escort-building capacity before the wartime emergency.

    Notable Point
  23. 55:53
    QuestionWas Hedgehog inspired by watching aircraft drop small depth charges?Answer

    Probably not; Hedgehog work began earlier, and Squid rather than Hedgehog was the projected depth-charge system.

    Q&A
  24. 57:06
    QuestionCould a Swordfish be launched from a Queen Elizabeth-class carrier?Answer

    Yes, the deck and the Swordfish's low takeoff speed should make a launch possible.

    Q&A
  25. 57:57
    Why the Swordfish Mark III traded its torpedo for radar

    The Swordfish Mark III's large centimetric radar installation displaced its torpedo, an acceptable trade once anti-submarine patrol had become the aircraft's main job.

    Notable Point
  26. 59:06
    How the fall of France and Norway broke convoy doctrine

    Britain's planned southern convoy route depended on French and British land-based air cover that vanished after 1940.

    Chapter
  27. 1:02:44
    Why the Fw 200 Condor was a targeting threat

    A Condor could keep reporting a convoy's position and guide U-boats even without attacking the merchant ships itself.

    Chapter
  28. 1:10:43
    How MAC ships preserved cargo capacity

    Merchant aircraft carriers kept their commercial function while adding a flight deck and a tiny air group for convoy protection.

    Chapter
  29. 1:13:48
    From captured merchantman to HMS Audacity

    A captured German merchant ship became the first operational British escort carrier after a rapid conversion at Blyth.

    Chapter
  30. 1:19:13
    Audacity's four-convoy combat career

    Audacity's Martlets destroyed Condors and helped force U-131's loss before U-751 sank the exposed carrier.

    Chapter
  31. 1:20:40
    Why Britain changed American escort-carrier fit-outs

    British refits traded American provisions for long Pacific deployments for equipment suited to shorter Atlantic convoy cycles.

    Notable Point
  32. 1:26:32
    HMS Archer as a complete carrier in miniature

    Archer combined a fifteen-aircraft group with a lift, catapult, arrestor wires, and barriers, but her low speed constrained flying operations.

    Chapter
  33. 1:32:17
    QuestionWhere were the bridge and flying-control positions on a flush-deck escort carrier?Answer

    They occupied a small side structure beside the flight deck, while additional control facilities were built into the hull.

    Q&A
  34. 1:33:29
    QuestionWas HMS Archer built on the same C3 cargo hull as the Bogue class?Answer

    They shared the broad C3 merchant-ship family, but different C3 variants produced materially different carrier conversions.

    Q&A
  35. 1:34:08
    How PQ 18 protected its escort carrier

    PQ 18 gave Avenger an operating box, protected re-entry positions, and destroyers dedicated to following the carrier out of formation.

    Chapter
  36. 1:34:36
    Why PQ 18 carried submarines inside its screen

    Submarines waited within PQ 18's formation so they could sortie against a German surface force approaching the convoy.

    Notable Point
  37. 1:37:02
    QuestionWas a MAC ship's flight deck peeled back by an Arctic storm?Answer

    A flight deck was badly damaged, but the full peeling-back story is probably an exaggeration.

    Q&A
  38. 1:40:51
    QuestionDid seaplane carriers escort convoys during the Second World War?Answer

    Generally no. They were used to support seaplanes and flying boats as mobile aviation bases.

    Q&A
  39. 1:42:59
    QuestionAre the Queen Elizabeth-class ships escort carriers, light fleet carriers, or supercarriers?Answer

    They are best treated as light fleet or fleet carriers; their size and forty-aircraft capacity do not meet the modern supercarrier standard.

    Q&A
  40. 1:46:50
    Taiyo and Japan's escort-carrier shortage

    Taiyo shows that Japan operated escort carriers, but not in the numbers needed for a prolonged maritime war.

    Notable Point
  41. 1:52:12
    QuestionIs the Cavour class more capable than the Queen Elizabeth class, and how should it be classified?Answer

    No. Its roughly twenty-two-aircraft hangar group, or about thirty with deck parking, places it around escort-carrier capability.

    Q&A
  42. 1:54:28
    A practical carrier classification by air-group size

    Approximate air-group bands separate escort, light, fleet, and supercarriers by distinct levels of aviation capability.

    Notable Point
  43. 1:58:16
    Biter, Avenger, and Dasher in British service

    Three related American conversions supported Arctic and North African operations but exposed severe merchant-hull survivability risks.

    Chapter
  44. 1:59:46
    QuestionWould strike drones allow a smaller carrier to match the air power of a ninety-aircraft supercarrier?Answer

    Not automatically. Capable drones still take substantial space, require control capacity, and need material support.

    Q&A
  45. 2:03:56
    QuestionCould a merchant-hull escort carrier be rebuilt with stronger bulkheads and subdivision?Answer

    Yes, but the redesign would be expensive and slow enough that a purpose-built hull might make more sense.

    Q&A
  46. 2:04:54
    Layering escort carriers, MAC ships, and CAM ships

    Convoys could combine reusable carrier aircraft with emergency catapult fighters so one aviation system backed up another.

    Notable Point
  47. 2:09:19
    Escort carriers supplied most American flight decks

    Of 155 American carriers built during the war, 122 were escort carriers available for transport, support, and amphibious missions.

    Notable Point
  48. 2:12:26
    Why Salerno needed five small carriers

    Land-based Spitfires had only twenty minutes over Salerno, so Force V brought five carriers to sustain fighter cover over the beaches.

    Chapter
  49. 2:18:56
    The forced landing behind Cunningham's 'two lucky men' remark

    An oil-starved Beaufighter forced down en route to Malta produced Cunningham's quip that two lucky men should not travel together.

    Notable Point
  50. 2:20:31
    Force V's costly flying operations at Salerno

    Force V sustained beach patrols beyond the planned withdrawal, but calm air and short decks destroyed far more Seafires in landings than enemy action did.

    Chapter
  51. 2:24:58
    How escort carriers divided amphibious work from fleet combat

    Escort carriers stayed near amphibious forces to support troops ashore while fleet carriers remained available against enemy fleets.

    Notable Point
  52. 2:26:25
    Escort carriers meet battleships off Samar

    Halsey's move north exposed Taffy 3 to the Japanese Center Force, while aircraft from all three Taffy groups joined the defense.

    Chapter
  53. 2:29:20
    Why empty aircraft still mattered at Samar

    Aircraft trained for land support attacked with whatever weapons they had and kept making dry runs after their ammunition was gone.

    Chapter
  54. 2:33:53
    How American CVE production shifted British carrier building

    Forty-five Bogue-class and fifty Casablanca-class ships let American CVE production cover Allied demand while British yards concentrated on light fleet carriers and other work.

    Notable Point
  55. 2:35:31
    How wartime crews kept Taffy 3 fighting

    Mostly wartime-service crews maintained flight operations and shipboard resistance during a surface action their escort carriers were never intended to fight.

    Notable Point
  56. 2:38:28
    Correcting myths about Japanese fire control

    Japanese ships had trained crews, directors, rangefinders, and radar even though their equipment and industrial base had important weaknesses.

    Notable Point
  57. 2:39:52
    QuestionWould even an escort carrier have changed the loss of Force Z?Answer

    Probably; radar warning and a handful of fighters could disrupt the Japanese strikes long enough for ship defenses and land-based fighters to matter.

    Q&A
  58. 2:44:26
    QuestionHow much damage could Taffy 3 have done if its aircraft were equipped for anti-ship attack?Answer

    With warning and coordination from all three Taffy groups, a prepared alpha strike could have inflicted much larger Japanese losses.

    Q&A
  59. 2:49:29
    QuestionWhat was wrong with the Japanese 25 mm anti-aircraft gun, and why was it not fixed?Answer

    It lacked reach and stopping power, and replacing it with a 40 mm system required industrial conversion Japan did not complete in time.

    Q&A
  60. 2:51:15
    QuestionWould a couple of battleships backing Taffy 3 have changed the battle?Answer

    They could protect the carriers and buy launch time, but would probably absorb concentrated gunfire and torpedoes at severe human cost.

    Q&A
  61. 2:52:52
    QuestionWhy did Japan not replace the 25 mm gun with a 40 mm weapon?Answer

    The industrial conversion was substantial, and by the time the need was obvious Japan no longer had enough time or spare capacity.

    Q&A
  62. 2:53:49
    QuestionWould the Royal Navy have returned a surviving Repulse to action without a major refit?Answer

    Probably after a limited AA upgrade, pairing her with Renown and carriers in a fast Eastern Fleet group.

    Q&A
  63. 2:57:46
    QuestionDid Captain Hardy order HMS Victory broken up after Horatio Nelson died, only to be stopped by his wife?Answer

    No. The ship-breaking story is dismissed as one of the tales that circulates about HMS Victory.

    Q&A