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Patreon 63: Escort carriers, the idea, designs, development and notable operations
Study Patreon 63: Escort carriers, the idea, designs, development and notable operations, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 29 Sept 2022, with 63 time notes. Topics include Amphibious Warfare, Anti-Submarine Warfare, Battle…
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- 2:00Why Britain did not build escort carriers before the warChapter
Treaty tonnage, Treasury limits, and competing rearmament demands explain why prewar escort-carrier plans did not become ships.
- 7:42QuestionWhy did Britain keep to the treaty carrier limit when other powers were already bending the rules?AnswerQ&A
An open breach would free every other navy to exceed its limits, and Britain still wanted the treaty's spending restraint.
- 8:21QuestionIf HMS Argus had entered service before the First World War ended, would she have been useful?AnswerQ&A
Yes. She probably would have joined HMS Furious in a carrier strike against a German naval base.
- 9:28QuestionCould Britain exclude Argus and Hermes from treaty limits by classifying them as something other than fleet carriers?AnswerQ&A
No. The treaty counted total carrier tonnage, so changing the ships' subclass labels would not remove them from the national allowance.
- 14:39QuestionWhat would an escort-carrier clause in the London naval treaties have required?AnswerQ&A
A separate national tonnage allowance for carriers under 10,000 tons could have protected fleet-carrier tonnage and encouraged small-carrier construction.
- 16:40QuestionWas carrier doctrine still unsettled until the war was well underway?AnswerQ&A
Each navy had already developed a distinct doctrine suited to its own strategy and equipment, and those doctrines continued evolving during the war.
- 18:35Why the Board of Trade resisted merchant-carrier conversionsNotable Point
Converting merchant hulls forced officials to trade visible cargo capacity and revenue against protection from larger future shipping losses.
- 20:11QuestionShould the Invincible class be considered modern escort carriers?AnswerQ&A
No; their larger air groups and ability to perform both strike and escort tasks make light carrier the better description.
- 21:21QuestionHow would British, American, and Japanese carrier doctrines have worked in different theaters?AnswerQ&A
American methods could adapt to the Atlantic, British methods would fight the Pacific differently, and Japanese doctrine would likely burn through pilots quickly in the Mediterranean.
- 23:56QuestionHow many fighters were needed for a convoy combat air patrol?AnswerQ&A
About eighteen for a standing patrol, but most escort carriers carried six to eight and launched them when radar detected a threat.
- 24:51Why merely forcing a U-boat to dive matteredChapter
Aircraft could neutralize surface-running submarines by forcing them underwater, slowing them for sonar-equipped escorts.
- 28:11A squadron of Hermes-sized carriersNotable Point
A Hermes just under 10,000 tons might have encouraged a British small-carrier program and a treaty category to match.
- 29:38QuestionWould the Alaska-class hull shape have produced too small an air group for carrier conversion?AnswerQ&A
No; the long hull could support a workable carrier, but the conversion would be costly and competed with advocates of the original large-cruiser design.
- 32:02Hermes as Force H's anti-submarine carrierNotable Point
A Hermes air group weighted toward Swordfish could have supplied Force H with a dedicated anti-submarine screen.
- 37:09Convoy defense is measured by arrivals, not U-boats sunkChapter
The decisive convoy metric was delivering merchant ships, even if no attacking submarine was destroyed.
- 39:05QuestionWere Independence-class carriers converted mainly because there were not enough guns to complete their cruiser hulls?AnswerQ&A
Not entirely. The guns could have been built, while converting the hulls into light carriers offered a useful alternative capability.
- 40:52Why naval anti-aircraft fire did not need a killChapter
Gun layouts reflected expected attack geometry, and disrupting an attack could matter more than shooting the aircraft down.
- 43:58QuestionCould early helicopters or autogyros have replaced fixed-wing aircraft in anti-submarine patrols?AnswerQ&A
Not effectively; they lacked the endurance, sensors, reliability, and search coverage that made the Swordfish useful.
- 45:59How the Swordfish hunted submarinesChapter
Radar, depth charges, and rockets let the Swordfish find surfaced submarines and damage their ability to dive.
- 50:05QuestionWhat were the size and characteristics of the Swordfish's surface-search radar?AnswerQ&A
ASV Mark II operated around 176 MHz with a broad beam and roughly one-to-forty-mile range, though the precise installation weight and wavelength are treated cautiously.
- 53:09Why HMS Unicorn outranked an escort carrierChapter
When extra funding appeared, the Royal Navy preferred Unicorn's aviation-support and carrier-development value to a narrower escort carrier.
- 54:38The case for a continuous Empire sloop programNotable Point
Recurring Empire-wide sloop construction could have preserved escort-building capacity before the wartime emergency.
- 55:53QuestionWas Hedgehog inspired by watching aircraft drop small depth charges?AnswerQ&A
Probably not; Hedgehog work began earlier, and Squid rather than Hedgehog was the projected depth-charge system.
- 57:06QuestionCould a Swordfish be launched from a Queen Elizabeth-class carrier?AnswerQ&A
Yes, the deck and the Swordfish's low takeoff speed should make a launch possible.
- 57:57Why the Swordfish Mark III traded its torpedo for radarNotable Point
The Swordfish Mark III's large centimetric radar installation displaced its torpedo, an acceptable trade once anti-submarine patrol had become the aircraft's main job.
- 59:06How the fall of France and Norway broke convoy doctrineChapter
Britain's planned southern convoy route depended on French and British land-based air cover that vanished after 1940.
- 1:02:44Why the Fw 200 Condor was a targeting threatChapter
A Condor could keep reporting a convoy's position and guide U-boats even without attacking the merchant ships itself.
- 1:10:43How MAC ships preserved cargo capacityChapter
Merchant aircraft carriers kept their commercial function while adding a flight deck and a tiny air group for convoy protection.
- 1:13:48From captured merchantman to HMS AudacityChapter
A captured German merchant ship became the first operational British escort carrier after a rapid conversion at Blyth.
- 1:19:13Audacity's four-convoy combat careerChapter
Audacity's Martlets destroyed Condors and helped force U-131's loss before U-751 sank the exposed carrier.
- 1:20:40Why Britain changed American escort-carrier fit-outsNotable Point
British refits traded American provisions for long Pacific deployments for equipment suited to shorter Atlantic convoy cycles.
- 1:26:32HMS Archer as a complete carrier in miniatureChapter
Archer combined a fifteen-aircraft group with a lift, catapult, arrestor wires, and barriers, but her low speed constrained flying operations.
- 1:32:17QuestionWhere were the bridge and flying-control positions on a flush-deck escort carrier?AnswerQ&A
They occupied a small side structure beside the flight deck, while additional control facilities were built into the hull.
- 1:33:29QuestionWas HMS Archer built on the same C3 cargo hull as the Bogue class?AnswerQ&A
They shared the broad C3 merchant-ship family, but different C3 variants produced materially different carrier conversions.
- 1:34:08How PQ 18 protected its escort carrierChapter
PQ 18 gave Avenger an operating box, protected re-entry positions, and destroyers dedicated to following the carrier out of formation.
- 1:34:36Why PQ 18 carried submarines inside its screenNotable Point
Submarines waited within PQ 18's formation so they could sortie against a German surface force approaching the convoy.
- 1:37:02QuestionWas a MAC ship's flight deck peeled back by an Arctic storm?AnswerQ&A
A flight deck was badly damaged, but the full peeling-back story is probably an exaggeration.
- 1:40:51QuestionDid seaplane carriers escort convoys during the Second World War?AnswerQ&A
Generally no. They were used to support seaplanes and flying boats as mobile aviation bases.
- 1:42:59QuestionAre the Queen Elizabeth-class ships escort carriers, light fleet carriers, or supercarriers?AnswerQ&A
They are best treated as light fleet or fleet carriers; their size and forty-aircraft capacity do not meet the modern supercarrier standard.
- 1:46:50Taiyo and Japan's escort-carrier shortageNotable Point
Taiyo shows that Japan operated escort carriers, but not in the numbers needed for a prolonged maritime war.
- 1:52:12QuestionIs the Cavour class more capable than the Queen Elizabeth class, and how should it be classified?AnswerQ&A
No. Its roughly twenty-two-aircraft hangar group, or about thirty with deck parking, places it around escort-carrier capability.
- 1:54:28A practical carrier classification by air-group sizeNotable Point
Approximate air-group bands separate escort, light, fleet, and supercarriers by distinct levels of aviation capability.
- 1:58:16Biter, Avenger, and Dasher in British serviceChapter
Three related American conversions supported Arctic and North African operations but exposed severe merchant-hull survivability risks.
- 1:59:46QuestionWould strike drones allow a smaller carrier to match the air power of a ninety-aircraft supercarrier?AnswerQ&A
Not automatically. Capable drones still take substantial space, require control capacity, and need material support.
- 2:03:56QuestionCould a merchant-hull escort carrier be rebuilt with stronger bulkheads and subdivision?AnswerQ&A
Yes, but the redesign would be expensive and slow enough that a purpose-built hull might make more sense.
- 2:04:54Layering escort carriers, MAC ships, and CAM shipsNotable Point
Convoys could combine reusable carrier aircraft with emergency catapult fighters so one aviation system backed up another.
- 2:09:19Escort carriers supplied most American flight decksNotable Point
Of 155 American carriers built during the war, 122 were escort carriers available for transport, support, and amphibious missions.
- 2:12:26Why Salerno needed five small carriersChapter
Land-based Spitfires had only twenty minutes over Salerno, so Force V brought five carriers to sustain fighter cover over the beaches.
- 2:18:56The forced landing behind Cunningham's 'two lucky men' remarkNotable Point
An oil-starved Beaufighter forced down en route to Malta produced Cunningham's quip that two lucky men should not travel together.
- 2:20:31Force V's costly flying operations at SalernoChapter
Force V sustained beach patrols beyond the planned withdrawal, but calm air and short decks destroyed far more Seafires in landings than enemy action did.
- 2:24:58How escort carriers divided amphibious work from fleet combatNotable Point
Escort carriers stayed near amphibious forces to support troops ashore while fleet carriers remained available against enemy fleets.
- 2:26:25Escort carriers meet battleships off SamarChapter
Halsey's move north exposed Taffy 3 to the Japanese Center Force, while aircraft from all three Taffy groups joined the defense.
- 2:29:20Why empty aircraft still mattered at SamarChapter
Aircraft trained for land support attacked with whatever weapons they had and kept making dry runs after their ammunition was gone.
- 2:33:53How American CVE production shifted British carrier buildingNotable Point
Forty-five Bogue-class and fifty Casablanca-class ships let American CVE production cover Allied demand while British yards concentrated on light fleet carriers and other work.
- 2:35:31How wartime crews kept Taffy 3 fightingNotable Point
Mostly wartime-service crews maintained flight operations and shipboard resistance during a surface action their escort carriers were never intended to fight.
- 2:38:28Correcting myths about Japanese fire controlNotable Point
Japanese ships had trained crews, directors, rangefinders, and radar even though their equipment and industrial base had important weaknesses.
- 2:39:52QuestionWould even an escort carrier have changed the loss of Force Z?AnswerQ&A
Probably; radar warning and a handful of fighters could disrupt the Japanese strikes long enough for ship defenses and land-based fighters to matter.
- 2:44:26QuestionHow much damage could Taffy 3 have done if its aircraft were equipped for anti-ship attack?AnswerQ&A
With warning and coordination from all three Taffy groups, a prepared alpha strike could have inflicted much larger Japanese losses.
- 2:49:29QuestionWhat was wrong with the Japanese 25 mm anti-aircraft gun, and why was it not fixed?AnswerQ&A
It lacked reach and stopping power, and replacing it with a 40 mm system required industrial conversion Japan did not complete in time.
- 2:51:15QuestionWould a couple of battleships backing Taffy 3 have changed the battle?AnswerQ&A
They could protect the carriers and buy launch time, but would probably absorb concentrated gunfire and torpedoes at severe human cost.
- 2:52:52QuestionWhy did Japan not replace the 25 mm gun with a 40 mm weapon?AnswerQ&A
The industrial conversion was substantial, and by the time the need was obvious Japan no longer had enough time or spare capacity.
- 2:53:49QuestionWould the Royal Navy have returned a surviving Repulse to action without a major refit?AnswerQ&A
Probably after a limited AA upgrade, pairing her with Renown and carriers in a fast Eastern Fleet group.
- 2:57:46QuestionDid Captain Hardy order HMS Victory broken up after Horatio Nelson died, only to be stopped by his wife?AnswerQ&A
No. The ship-breaking story is dismissed as one of the tales that circulates about HMS Victory.