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Patreon 38: Evaluating Type 26 Frigates against WW2 ship classes...
Study Patreon 38: Evaluating Type 26 Frigates against WW2 ship classes..., a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 18 Nov 2021, with 53 time notes. Topics include Anti-Submarine Warfare, Force Structure, Frigates.
Time notes
- 4:48A frigate shaped by a quarter-century of changeChapter
The Type 26 grew from the Future Surface Combatant into three national variants, so its role reflects changing requirements rather than one fixed 1990s design brief.
- 11:39What Royal Navy type numbers are meant to signalNotable Point
Royal Navy type numbers began as functional designations; Type 26 continues the anti-submarine-frigate lineage rather than simply being a renamed destroyer or cruiser.
- 12:36QuestionWill Type 26 be as capable in anti-submarine warfare as Type 23?AnswerQ&A
It should be better, because considerable design effort went into improving the hull for the anti-submarine role.
- 14:05The City-class baseline: missiles, gun, sonar, and growth spaceChapter
The British Type 26 combines Sea Ceptor and Mk 41 launchers with a five-inch gun, sonar, and a mission bay intended to keep later options open.
- 16:35Why the close-in weapon fit still mattersNotable Point
A finite missile magazine gives a last-ditch gun layer a clear purpose, especially on an expensive escort that might face more incoming weapons than its missiles can engage.
- 18:38A modern frigate with Second World War cruiser displacementNotable Point
Type 26's full-load displacement exceeds that of some Second World War cruisers, making each of the eight planned British ships a scarce premium asset.
- 22:51QuestionHow does Type 26 compare with the Constellation class and FREMM frigates?AnswerQ&A
Type 26 is preferred for ASW, FREMM for air defence and close-in weapons, with Constellation as a middle course.
- 23:17QuestionWhy do warships usually use shaft-and-screw propulsion instead of pod drives?AnswerQ&A
Most pod systems are unsuitable for high speed, while high-speed alternatives are expensive, so conventional shafts remain the cheaper practical option.
- 28:17Mission-bay flexibility versus permanent armamentNotable Point
The Type 26 mission bay gives later planners a choice between flexible payloads and more fixed capability, including a possible expansion of missile capacity.
- 30:08QuestionWould a defensive laser add enough heat to affect an already hot hypersonic missile?AnswerQ&A
Potentially. If an effective laser engagement were possible, the added heating might make the missile deviate, though the idea remains theoretical.
- 31:01Australia's Hunter: the Type 26 with an Aegis emphasisChapter
Australia retains the Type 26 hull concept but adds its own combat-system and radar choices, making Hunter a different balance of anti-submarine and air-defence capability.
- 33:23QuestionHow could a close-in weapon system be tested without damaging a warship?AnswerQ&A
Use a test barge, such as the Type 45 program's missile and radar barge, to conduct a full moving-platform trial.
- 34:25Why a warship may sail with empty launch cellsNotable Point
A ship's VLS capacity is not always its everyday missile load; navies can carry a lower peacetime allowance and fill cells for a high-risk deployment.
- 39:23Three national variants, three fleet problemsChapter
City, Hunter, and Canadian Surface Combatant share a lineage, but displacement, crew size, radars, sonar, launchers, and expected missions diverge.
- 48:31QuestionMight the Batch 2 Type 26 frigates differ significantly from Batch 1?AnswerQ&A
No. The plan is to keep the batches as similar as possible so they remain cheaper to build and support.
- 49:18QuestionHow capable is the City-class Type 26 at air defence, and should that capability be enhanced in a mid-life update?AnswerQ&A
Its point-defence fit is adequate for its intended anti-submarine role because Royal Navy Type 45 destroyers provide the task group's area air defence.
- 51:00Why Canada favours one large surface-combatant classNotable Point
For a smaller navy, a sizeable single class can simplify training, maintenance, infrastructure, and force generation more effectively than several specialized small classes.
- 52:48How eight Type 26s fit a carrier-focused escort forceNotable Point
A Royal Navy force model has Type 31s holding distant stations while Type 26s pair with air-defence destroyers and protect the carrier force or the strategic submarine mission.
- 56:23Reusing upgraded Type 23 equipmentNotable Point
Britain planned to move relatively recent Type 23 upgrades onto later Type 26s, using refurbishment and transfer to stretch a limited procurement budget.
- 59:00QuestionWere general-purpose Type 23s built differently from anti-submarine Type 23s?AnswerQ&A
No. They began as the same anti-submarine design; some were later changed by removing the towed-array capability to reduce costs.
- 1:02:54The Danish StanFlex alternative to fitted-for-but-not-withNotable Point
StanFlex separates a ship's module positions from the weapons bought for them, making reconfiguration easier but usually accepting fewer weapons in a given space than a specialized fit.
- 1:05:15QuestionCould stripped-down Type 23 frigates be retained for fisheries protection?AnswerQ&A
No. They would cost far more to run than cutters or offshore patrol vessels, while the Navy needs its escorts for higher-priority roles.
- 1:08:01Australia's Second World War cruiser force and long distancesChapter
Australia's wartime fleet leaned toward cruisers because vast distances demanded credible ships with range and presence, but the navy could not crew a large number of them.
- 1:09:49Why a Canadian FREMM split buy could cost more without solving the fleet problemChapter
Canadian construction rules, yard tooling, and the limits of FREMM's general-purpose balance complicate proposals to divide the surface-combatant program between different frigate types.
- 1:12:36A design built around anti-submarine warfareNotable Point
Type 26 rates especially highly for anti-submarine warfare because quieting, machinery rafting, hull form, and the entire design process all serve that mission.
- 1:14:42Canada's balanced anti-submarine and area-air-defence escortNotable Point
The Canadian Surface Combatant is framed as a general-purpose frigate: anti-submarine-focused but equipped with enough missile and radar capability for a limited area-defence role.
- 1:16:36QuestionWhy are navies not yet widely using drones to tow sonar arrays?AnswerQ&A
The operating environment is difficult and navies are reducing technical and program risk before relying on the capability.
- 1:18:44Canada's Second World War navy grew around escort warfareChapter
The wartime Royal Canadian Navy combined a small cruiser and escort-carrier element with a vast force of destroyers, frigates, and other escorts, becoming one of the world's largest navies by 1945.
- 1:19:49Helicopters reveal different anti-submarine conceptsNotable Point
The Merlin and Canadian helicopter discussion illustrates a distinction between long-range independent prosecution and an aircraft working closely with the ship's own sensors and drones.
- 1:22:08Geography explains why the three fleets use similar hulls differentlyChapter
Australian regional distances, Canada's Atlantic-Pacific balance, and Britain's global commitments create different demands for the Type 26 family.
- 1:26:12Why strike options can expose an escort shortageNotable Point
Mk 41 launchers make Type 26 useful for land attack, though detaching scarce anti-submarine escorts can weaken the task group they were bought to protect.
- 1:30:38QuestionDid China have enough submarines to threaten Australian and Indian sea lanes in a Second World War-style convoy campaign?AnswerQ&A
Not at the time of the talk; most Chinese boats were relatively noisy conventional submarines, limiting their ability to sustain that kind of campaign.
- 1:31:29The City name links very different wartime and modern shipsNotable Point
The Second World War Town-class cruisers were powerful six-inch-gun general-purpose cruisers; the modern City class shares the name but serves through sensors, missiles, and anti-submarine work.
- 1:34:14How national naming traditions complicate the Type 26 familyNotable Point
Britain's City-class name has a clear Town-class lineage, while Australian and Canadian choices must reconcile looser precedents with national and political meaning.
- 1:36:44Hunter and CSC as modern all-round Tribal-type escortsChapter
The Australian and Canadian versions resemble modern all-round Tribals: escorts able to handle air, submarine, and surface tasks while carrying more weight than their label suggests.
- 1:39:23Britain's Type 26 blends Dido and Black Swan functionsNotable Point
For the Royal Navy, the closer spiritual comparison combines Dido's broad fighting utility with Black Swan's anti-submarine purpose.
- 1:40:37QuestionWhat might a modern British or allied cruiser look like?AnswerQ&A
Watch the Type 83: it will probably be called a destroyer even if the difference from a cruiser is very small.
- 1:42:52The Type 26's real measure is its task-group contributionChapter
The British ship is an anti-submarine element of a carrier task group; Australian and Canadian ships add broader air defence so they can contribute usefully to allied groups.
- 1:43:31What the Perry retirement left Arleigh Burke destroyers to coverNotable Point
Arleigh Burke destroyers inherited more anti-submarine responsibility after the Oliver Hazard Perry frigates left service, despite being designed around air warfare and broader destroyer tasks.
- 1:50:55QuestionWhat might replace HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark?AnswerQ&A
The decision remained open, though an LHD design could eventually be selected.
- 1:51:11QuestionWhere might the proposed Type 32 fit into the future fleet?AnswerQ&A
It could be a Type 31-derived mothership for distributed mine-warfare systems rather than a direct Type 26 substitute.
- 1:51:40QuestionIf the Royal Navy is organized around carrier strike, where does its amphibious mission fit?AnswerQ&A
Primarily in the Littoral Strike Groups, with room for additional arrangements.
- 1:52:47QuestionWould a 21-cell Rolling Airframe Missile launcher count toward the video's warship rating?AnswerQ&A
No. Its short range makes it a close-in weapon for this system, which begins with point-defence missiles such as ESSM and Sea Ceptor.
- 1:55:05Why the rating system counts launch cells, not every missileNotable Point
The video's rating method counts the number of substantial missile-launch positions, avoiding inflated comparisons based on quad-packing or hypothetical loads.
- 1:57:31QuestionWould a future railgun-armed escort carry several turrets like an older cruiser, or one very large gun?AnswerQ&A
At least two turrets, ideally twins, would be preferable if power generation, ammunition supply, and the technology itself make that layout viable.
- 1:58:09QuestionCan vertical-launch systems be reloaded while underway?AnswerQ&A
In theory some U.S. ships can, but in practice it is rarely exercised and most navies would need to reload in port.
- 1:58:55QuestionWhich helicopter is the best option for the British, Australian, and Canadian Type 26 variants?AnswerQ&A
Each navy's choice fits its own doctrine; in British service, Merlin is likely to concentrate on ASW-focused Type 26 while Wildcat supports more general-purpose escorts.
- 1:59:51QuestionIf battleships still existed, would navies form separate strike groups around them?AnswerQ&A
Probably not. They would normally operate as part of a carrier strike group, with occasional detached missions.
- 2:03:01Carriers keep combat power reloadable at seaNotable Point
Carrier aircraft can be rearmed at sea more readily than a ship's VLS can be refilled, making the carrier a flexible source of repeated air-defence, strike, and anti-submarine sorties.
- 2:04:02QuestionWould lengthening the Queen Elizabeth-class carriers and converting them to CATOBAR operation be viable?AnswerQ&A
It is technically possible, but the conversion and a suitable naval aircraft would be prohibitively expensive compared with continuing to operate the F-35.
- 2:07:41QuestionWould future Tempest orders avoid the reductions often attributed to Britain's F-35 purchase?AnswerQ&A
Britain had not yet fixed or cut a final F-35 total; the eventual number would depend on operational need, cost, perceived war risk, and political consequences.
- 2:08:45QuestionIf a Queen Elizabeth-class carrier were lengthened, where could the work be done and where could the larger ship be based?AnswerQ&A
Cammell Laird is the likely yard, but its dry dock and the carrier's British base facilities would all require costly expansion.
- 2:10:43QuestionWhy not fit twin Bofors or twin 57-mm guns to a modern escort?AnswerQ&A
Two guns impose more maintenance, but their extra firepower and redundancy become important when a ship may fight alone and outnumbered.