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Patreon 79: AH - WW1 incidents happen that bring the US enters war on the side of Germany...
Study Patreon 79: AH - WW1 incidents happen that bring the US enters war on the side of Germany..., a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 18 May 2023, with 59 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Anglo-Japanese…
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- 0:58Alliance commitments make an American war widerNotable Point
An American alignment with Germany could activate the Anglo-Japanese Alliance by turning a bilateral dispute into a war against multiple opponents.
- 1:44QuestionWere American loans to Britain and France a major reason the United States entered the First World War?AnswerQ&A
In this interpretation, they made an Allied collapse financially undesirable and muted some opposition to war, but they were not a sufficient cause of intervention.
- 8:43Why a fleet needs ships for different rolesNotable Point
Presence ships, fleet escorts, and high-end combatants need different weapons because they occupy different rungs in naval diplomacy.
- 10:22Mark 41 cells do not give Type 31 an area-defence roleNotable Point
Type 31's radar and mission determine which Mark 41 weapons would add useful capability without recasting the frigate as an area-air-defence ship.
- 11:53Why sovereign shipbuilding costs more than importing hullsNotable Point
Building Type 26 or Constellation-class frigates in Australia includes the cost of rebuilding yards, skills, and a continuing maritime industrial base.
- 13:23Australia's Type 26 fit trades away upgrade spaceNotable Point
In this assessment, the Australian Type 26 enters service with a fuller weapons and sensor fit, leaving less room for later modernization than the British configuration.
- 21:30A personal US Navy mix skips the LCS tierNotable Point
National Security Cutters, Constellation-class frigates, and nuclear cruisers form a personal alternative to a force structure that includes the Littoral Combat Ship.
- 22:32The capital ships had an unseen escort screenNotable Point
The famous ships in the photograph were protected by a much larger, partly unseen screen of destroyers and other anti-submarine escorts.
- 25:02Propaganda maps versus the logistics of invading AmericaChapter
German anti-British propaganda imagines the partition of the United States, while the logistical comparison separates plausible coastal raids from an implausible conquest.
- 28:18An uncertain account of Native American defenders of CanadaNotable Point
A remembered book passage links Native American groups to Canada's defence against American invasion, though the conflict and communities remain unidentified.
- 33:59QuestionCould the United States challenge the blockade by escorting cargo to neutral Holland or Norway?AnswerQ&A
It could trade with neutral ports, but that would not break the blockade; forcing an escorted convoy through to Germany would make the United States the active belligerent.
- 36:51Why Dreadnought was more transformative than South CarolinaNotable Point
South Carolina was a capable early all-big-gun ship; HMS Dreadnought is assessed as the more complete operational break from preceding battleships.
- 39:56QuestionWhy not use troops from India to invade the United States?AnswerQ&A
Because invasion would provoke the large American mobilization that Britain had seen during the Civil War, making a difficult war much larger.
- 42:41British cable control exposed German diplomacyNotable Point
Germany's dependence on British-controlled cables made diplomatic traffic vulnerable and gave communications ownership direct wartime importance.
- 45:13Northcliffe brought naval thought to a mass readershipNotable Point
Northcliffe's newspapers and publishing partnership carried Mahan, Corbett, and naval-policy arguments beyond specialist circles.
- 55:55The Delaware class turned an early dreadnought idea into a larger fleet unitNotable Point
A comparison of South Carolina and Delaware shows how quickly American dreadnought displacement, firepower, turret layout, and machinery demands grew before 1914.
- 1:05:21QuestionHow prepared was the United States for a war with Britain in 1914 or 1915?AnswerQ&A
Poorly prepared. Its small regular army would need time to mobilise, while Britain could reinforce Canada through an imperial system protected by sea power.
- 1:09:07Domestic politics makes war with Britain difficultNotable Point
German-American, English-American, French, and Italian connections would complicate public support for war against Britain and its partners.
- 1:19:06QuestionWhat is the difference between a republic and a democracy?AnswerQ&A
A republic has no hereditary monarch, while democracy describes the exercise and distribution of political power. A country can be both.
- 1:19:46Global turbine supply creates hidden wartime dependenciesNotable Point
Foreign-designed turbines could become maintenance liabilities when their suppliers joined the opposing coalition.
- 1:23:50QuestionDoes German American refer only to immigrants born in Germany?AnswerQ&A
Here, German American includes people of German ancestry beyond first-generation immigrants; the classification remains imprecise.
- 1:25:55QuestionWhy did the United States build battleships in pairs but not always operate each class as a two-ship unit?AnswerQ&A
Sister ships could use turbines and reciprocating engines, making them less natural partners for a permanent operating division.
- 1:28:45Woodrow Wilson joined peace theory to interventionist practiceNotable Point
Wilson’s academic career, 1912 election, peace program, and intervention in Mexico frame his role in this counterfactual.
- 1:31:17QuestionDid the Royal Navy operate about 2,000 trawlers during the First World War?AnswerQ&A
Only under a broad definition. Roughly 1,400 fishing vessels served in the Auxiliary Patrol, alongside smaller categories of naval and hired trawlers.
- 1:40:44How fishing trawlers became a wartime auxiliary patrolNotable Point
Britain armed fishing vessels, supplied naval specialists, and commissioned merchant skippers to establish combatant status.
- 1:46:13American capital ships exceeded immediate wartime readinessChapter
A class-by-class count of American dreadnoughts shows why impressive ships on paper did not amount to a fleet ready to reinforce Germany in European waters.
- 1:46:52Wyoming packed twelve guns into a slow turret farmNotable Point
The Wyoming class shows how the US Navy gained a twelve-gun broadside while accepting six twin turrets, crowded after arcs, and a 20.5-knot speed.
- 1:58:11Von Spee’s squadron cannot rescue the American Pacific positionNotable Point
Redirecting Germany’s East Asia Squadron might ease America’s cruiser shortage, but timing and the allied naval balance make it an inadequate solution.
- 1:59:59QuestionWhat would the American command structure look like in this war?AnswerQ&A
No hierarchy is supplied; the period command system is described only as complicated.
- 2:00:39Twin screws made battle damage more consequentialNotable Point
The New York class was America’s strongest available capital-ship type, but its two-shaft arrangement reduced propulsion redundancy after damage.
- 2:02:22The War of 1812 analogy cannot carry the whole scenarioChapter
Free-trade arguments and Manifest Destiny supply war aims, while changed Anglo-American conditions make the combined premise explicitly unlikely.
- 2:05:27QuestionCould Britain simply draw large garrison forces from across the Mediterranean and the wider empire?AnswerQ&A
No. Britain had few massive overseas garrisons and depended on the Indian Army, Dominion contingents, the BEF, and the deterrent effect of perceived imperial power.
- 2:07:29Nevada and Oklahoma were under thirty at Pearl HarborNotable Point
Nevada and Oklahoma entered service too late for a 1914 war, but both were still under thirty at Pearl Harbor.
- 2:13:23QuestionCould American yards build cruisers for Germany while the United States was still neutral?AnswerQ&A
Existing neutrality restrictions made that difficult because Confederate use of foreign-built warships had shaped post-Civil War law.
- 2:19:28French Canadians undermine the liberator premiseNotable Point
French Canadian resistance makes a welcoming occupation of Quebec especially difficult to sustain as a premise.
- 2:20:20Three knots separated firepower from tactical freedomNotable Point
Pennsylvania’s twelve 14-inch guns made a formidable paper comparison, but Queen Elizabeth’s speed and earlier availability shaped the fight more decisively.
- 2:21:39Canada, the Philippines, and Mexico stretch American strategyChapter
Simultaneous pressure on Canada, the Philippines, and potentially the Mexican frontier defines the central operational problem.
- 2:22:20A North American war would redirect imperial forcesNotable Point
Battlecruiser raiding and Canadian defence would redirect British, Dominion, and Indian resources from Europe.
- 2:27:22QuestionWhy would Canadian troops remain out of the Western Front?AnswerQ&A
Britain and Canada would retain them for home defence once an American invasion became likely.
- 2:28:09QuestionWould David Beatty command Royal Navy operations against the United States?AnswerQ&A
Possibly not. A full admiral might receive the theatre, and Beatty’s American marriage could influence the appointment.
- 2:30:21Halifax, Bermuda, and the Great Lakes resist quick solutionsChapter
Fortifications, mobilisation time, and the limited value of Bermuda make proposed shortcuts against Canada costly.
- 2:33:22QuestionCould the United States rely on its large Wickes- and Clemson-class destroyer flotillas in a war beginning in 1914 or 1915?AnswerQ&A
No. Those mass-production classes were not laid down until 1917 and 1918, leaving the prewar fleet dependent on much smaller batches of earlier destroyers.
- 2:38:34The choice of president changes the counterfactual premiseNotable Point
Wilson's interventions in Mexico make his administration the chosen starting point, while Taft and Roosevelt support different scenario assumptions.
- 2:44:03American possessions give France and Italy more optionsNotable Point
French access and captured American islands could draw Italy or regional partners further into the Entente coalition.
- 2:49:21A new enemy could preserve Britain’s battleship constructionNotable Point
Adding the United States to Britain’s enemies changes the demand behind the R-class and Renown-class construction choices.
- 2:50:48Sea control limits American alliance choicesNotable Point
British sea control left neutrality or alignment with the Entente far easier than joining the Central Powers.
- 2:53:01A short, damaging war could reshape naval limitsNotable Point
The proposed aftermath is a politically costly American peace and a possible naval-limitation settlement rather than occupation of the United States.
- 2:58:28QuestionWhat changes if the United States remains neutral throughout the First World War?AnswerQ&A
America loses leverage behind Wilson's peace program and naval arms control, which could leave a harsher Versailles settlement and an Anglo-American capital-ship race.
- 3:00:29QuestionCould the American military remove the government after the war turns against the United States?AnswerQ&A
No. Institutional military loyalty points toward the 1916 election replacing the administration and ending the war.
- 3:01:24QuestionCould Spain join the war against the United States?AnswerQ&A
Potentially, if the Entente offered Cuba and Spain sought to reverse losses from the Spanish-American War.
- 3:01:45QuestionWithout American reinforcements, could France still hold the Western Front against Germany?AnswerQ&A
Probably. The French mutinies rejected further attacks rather than defence, while the blockade and weak German logistics continued to limit how far an offensive could go.
- 3:02:57QuestionWould Britain’s Dominions still press to end the Anglo-Japanese Alliance after an American defeat?AnswerQ&A
They would have less reason to do so because Japan’s partnership with Britain would protect Dominion security while no strong United States remained to demand the alliance’s end.
- 3:04:21QuestionDid France have a post-Lyon capital ship able to rival the British G3 and N3 projects?AnswerQ&A
No. France was still trying to complete the Lyon class, which would arrive too late to shape a race already moving toward G3 and N3.
- 3:11:34QuestionCould Australia join the United States in a war against Britain?AnswerQ&A
Not plausibly in 1914. Australia was even less prepared than the United States, and much of its naval personnel and institutional base remained directly British.
- 3:12:39QuestionHow would Australia and New Zealand react to a later Anglo-Japanese alliance?AnswerQ&A
Their response depends on whether they remain Dominions or share alliance decisions through a more integrated imperial federation.
- 3:13:51QuestionWhy did Queen Victoria’s family connections fail to prevent war among European monarchies?AnswerQ&A
State conflict outweighed family ties. Wilhelm II is the focus, while Bismarck's influence remains a personal interpretation.
- 3:14:42QuestionWould HMS Hood still be built in this alternate war?AnswerQ&A
Probably, although close combat with American triple-turret ships might push the resulting British design toward a different turret arrangement.
- 3:15:03QuestionWould British and Dominion troops be too fatigued to move from a North American war to the Western Front?AnswerQ&A
Months of sea travel, rest, re-equipment, training, and phased deployment could return them to useful condition.
- 3:16:05A 1919 Ruhr offensive depends on the war continuingNotable Point
Continued war into 1919 could bring a British armoured offensive into the Ruhr and damage German industry.