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Patreon 73: Queen Elizabeth class battleships - Brave first step, faltering leap or something else?

Study Patreon 73: Queen Elizabeth class battleships - Brave first step, faltering leap or something else?, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 16 Feb 2023, with 44 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Battlecruisers…

Date
Runtime2:49:46
Guide points44 time notes

Time notes

  1. 16:30
    Queen Elizabeths as a constrained leap

    The opening frames the Queen Elizabeth class as a powerful but constrained fast-battleship step shaped by squadron numbers, speed, boilers, and prewar timing.

    Chapter
  2. 24:27
    The global dreadnought race around 1912

    A broad comparison puts Queen Elizabeth into several dreadnought races at once, including contests beyond the familiar Anglo-German rivalry.

    Notable Point
  3. 32:51
    Baseline armor, machinery, and 15-inch broadside

    The design baseline compares Queen Elizabeth dimensions, armor, horsepower, speed, and gun power against the Iron Duke class.

    Notable Point
  4. 35:59
    QuestionDid the Queen Elizabeth class itself establish the capital-ship standard used by the Washington Naval Treaty?Answer

    Not by itself. The class began a design progression whose later ships helped define the treaty-era benchmark.

    Q&A
  5. 39:56
    QuestionWas HMS Tiger a smaller and faster battlecruiser development of the Queen Elizabeth class?Answer

    No. Tiger belongs to the Iron Duke design lineage, visible in the ships' lines and shaping.

    Q&A
  6. 41:14
    Nevada, armor, and Queen Elizabeth's speed margin

    A comparison with the Nevada class shows two different answers to the dreadnought problem: American armor endurance against British speed and range control.

    Notable Point
  7. 45:52
    QuestionCould Revenge-class machinery be fitted to Queen Elizabeth after the First World War to create a common standard?Answer

    No. Reaching the desired speed required an oil-fired, small-tube-boiler layout designed into the ship from the beginning, not a machinery swap after construction.

    Q&A
  8. 47:20
    Pennsylvania, Bayern, and the Revenge-class answer

    The immediate American, German, and British follow-ons reveal how Queen Elizabeth occupied several naval races at once and why the Revenge class advertised Britain's quantitative victory.

    Notable Point
  9. 51:56
    How the Revenge program could redistribute older dreadnoughts

    A force-structure counterfactual shows how completing the Revenge class before the war might have released first-generation dreadnoughts to Dominion fleets.

    Notable Point
  10. 55:03
    Why fast battleships fit roles battlecruisers could not

    A force-employment digression explains why replacing battleships with more battlecruisers would weaken convoy defense and combat in confined waters.

    Notable Point
  11. 56:54
    QuestionWhat would a battlecruiser contemporary derived from the Queen Elizabeth design have looked like?Answer

    It would likely sacrifice one twin turret for substantially more machinery, producing a six-gun ship above 30 knots and broadly resembling the Renown class.

    Q&A
  12. 59:29
    QuestionWas the Revenge class originally intended to carry five twin 15-inch turrets?Answer

    No. A fifth turret would have required a materially different hull and superstructure arrangement.

    Q&A
  13. 1:03:44
    QuestionCould a battlecruiser remain clear of a convoy, then rush in after a raider revealed its position?Answer

    Only unreliably. A raider could jam the convoy's transmissions, leaving the distant battlecruiser without a timely location to intercept.

    Q&A
  14. 1:04:33
    Churchill, Admiralty offices, and oil fuel

    The institutional section explains who shaped the design and why Churchill's oil-fuel push mattered inside the Admiralty.

    Notable Point
  15. 1:08:45
    QuestionCould the United States or Germany have built an equivalent to a 28-knot Queen Elizabeth in 1913?Answer

    The United States had little doctrinal reason to match the speed, while Germany would have faced an unaffordable engineering and funding burden.

    Q&A
  16. 1:09:48
    Using quality to break the German race

    A strategic explanation shows how the Queen Elizabeth class could pressure German naval funding without wrecking Britain's quieter rivalry with the United States.

    Notable Point
  17. 1:19:07
    Why 15-inch twins were the restrained choice

    The armament discussion treats 15-inch twin turrets as a powerful but controlled leap that avoided a larger American response.

    Notable Point
  18. 1:23:57
    QuestionHow large a capital ship could Britain physically build in 1913?Answer

    British infrastructure could already accommodate a Hood-sized ship, and the industrial setting may even have been more favorable than in 1919.

    Q&A
  19. 1:32:26
    Small-tube boilers and the faster ship not taken

    The boiler section marks the strongest missed opportunity: small-tube oil-fired boilers could have improved speed without provoking the same gun-caliber race.

    Notable Point
  20. 1:36:22
    QuestionHow could a 28-knot Queen Elizabeth squadron be prevented from being assigned to Beatty's battlecruiser force?Answer

    Keep it in Jellicoe's Grand Fleet as a battleship fast wing; Beatty received the historical squadron only because his own battlecruisers temporarily left for training.

    Q&A
  21. 1:37:28
    QuestionWould leaving Jellicoe as Third Sea Lord for a few more months have corrected other Queen Elizabeth design problems?Answer

    Possibly. It might also have delayed the promotion path that made him Grand Fleet commander, so the institutional gain carried an operational cost.

    Q&A
  22. 1:38:10
    The arms-race cost of Queen Elizabeth Maximus

    The Queen Elizabeth Maximus counterfactual shows why the technically possible 15-gun, 16.5-inch fast battleship would have been strategically destabilizing.

    Notable Point
  23. 1:42:52
    QuestionHow would genuine 28- to 30-knot Queen Elizabeths in the First World War affect capital-ship development by the Second World War?Answer

    They would likely establish the fast battleship as the normal successor to the dreadnought much earlier, making 21-knot capital ships less attractive.

    Q&A
  24. 1:45:04
    QuestionIf Britain stopped after building Queen Elizabeth Maximus, could the resulting pause steady the Anglo-American arms race?Answer

    Possibly, but not predictably. An American 18-inch answer and a British construction pause might create a temporary balance, yet changing the scale of the competition could also change its political rules.

    Q&A
  25. 1:46:41
    QuestionWould a roughly 45,000-ton Queen Elizabeth Maximus fit through the Panama Canal?Answer

    No. The canal would need an earlier widening program, while oversized ships would otherwise have to move between oceans around Cape Horn.

    Q&A
  26. 1:47:15
    QuestionWould Britain have been better off building more Queen Elizabeth-class ships instead of the Revenge class?Answer

    Not necessarily. The Revenges were more efficient new designs, while Queen Elizabeth's original inefficiencies happened to provide room for later major reconstruction.

    Q&A
  27. 1:49:16
    QuestionHow long would the United States need to move from its existing heavy guns to an 18-inch naval weapon?Answer

    Roughly three to four years, because American 14-inch guns were already in service and 16-inch work had begun.

    Q&A
  28. 1:49:34
    QuestionWas the Revenge class substantially cheaper than Queen Elizabeth?Answer

    It was cheaper by battleship standards, but the saving did not make it a cheap warship.

    Q&A
  29. 1:52:24
    QuestionCould the United States have answered British 16.5-inch guns with a longer-ranged 16-inch/50 weapon instead of moving to 18 inches?Answer

    Not easily in the 1910s. Manufacturing a much longer barrel was a harder metallurgical problem than increasing caliber with the methods then available.

    Q&A
  30. 1:56:13
    QuestionHow many sailors would a five-triple-turret Queen Elizabeth Maximus require?Answer

    About 1,200, estimated from the roughly 950-person Queen Elizabeth complement and the 1,000-to-1,100-person Iron Duke complement.

    Q&A
  31. 2:02:16
    QuestionCould an overwhelmingly superior Queen Elizabeth Maximus cause Britain to stop advancing battleship technology for a time?Answer

    Yes. Britain might plateau on a design already far ahead of its rivals and keep building repeats instead of demanding an immediate successor.

    Q&A
  32. 2:03:55
    Why an early German submarine turn would be dangerous

    The Maximus counterfactual exposes a prewar capability gap: Britain could build escorts, but effective submarine detection and attack systems were not yet mature.

    Notable Point
  33. 2:06:26
    QuestionWhy did the Queen Elizabeth Maximus model keep its middle Q turret at deck level rather than making it superfiring?Answer

    The model follows the Royal Navy's established five-turret A-B-Q-X-Y arrangement, with the mast and superstructure placed around the central mounting.

    Q&A
  34. 2:08:03
    The uncertain 18-inch Agincourt hypothesis

    The proposed sixth Queen Elizabeth becomes a source-critical investigation into whether Britain intended a one-off, small-tube-boiler battleship with six 18-inch guns.

    Notable Point
  35. 2:08:03
    QuestionWere Queen Elizabeth-class battleships built sequentially in one yard or in parallel across several yards?Answer

    They were distributed across five yards. Only Queen Elizabeth and the proposed Agincourt formed a sequential pair at Portsmouth.

    Q&A
  36. 2:10:33
    Finding USS Albacore is only the first archaeological step

    A brief news digression explains why identifying a submarine wreck establishes its location but does not by itself establish how it was lost.

    Notable Point
  37. 2:11:27
    QuestionCould a British capital ship place Q turret above X and Y in a three-level superfiring arrangement aft?Answer

    It was theoretically possible, but Britain was unlikely to accept the resulting hull stresses and pitching problems.

    Q&A
  38. 2:20:48
    QuestionDid Japan choose a 26.5-knot battleship speed because it believed the Queen Elizabeth class could make about 25 knots?Answer

    That belief was one factor discussed: Japanese planners credited Queen Elizabeth with roughly 25 knots and sought an advantage over it.

    Q&A
  39. 2:25:56
    QuestionWould a Queen Elizabeth-based ship need a much longer or wider hull to carry six 18-inch guns?Answer

    Only modest adjustment in this reconstruction, chiefly moving the two forward turrets, superstructure, and after turret closer to the ship's center.

    Q&A
  40. 2:27:02
    QuestionCould Admiralty planners reasonably expect the late change from coal to oil to make the historical Queen Elizabeth design exceed 25 knots?Answer

    No. The Director of Naval Construction's performance estimate was accurate to about a quarter knot despite the redesign.

    Q&A
  41. 2:28:12
    QuestionDid heavy-gun foundries maintain independent power supplies to protect production from an external outage?Answer

    Yes. Their enormous heat and power demands encouraged vertically integrated works that generated their own power and handled much of their own supporting infrastructure.

    Q&A
  42. 2:28:57
    QuestionDid Third Sea Lord Gordon Moore lack the technical competence to recognize what small-tube boilers could offer?Answer

    No. Moore was technically capable but pragmatically unwilling to stake the program on a still-unproven system.

    Q&A
  43. 2:31:02
    QuestionDid changing Queen Elizabeth from coal to oil chiefly increase maximum speed?Answer

    Its clearer benefit was sustaining full power. Larger gains required small-tube or later high-pressure boilers designed to exploit the hotter fuel.

    Q&A
  44. 2:41:29
    QuestionWould completing an 18-inch-gunned Agincourt reopen the dreadnought race that Queen Elizabeth had won?Answer

    It would continue the Anglo-American qualitative race, not revive the defeated Anglo-German quantitative contest.

    Q&A