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Of Two Submarines, in two wars... The sinkings of HMHS Britannic & IJS Kongo
Study Of Two Submarines, in two wars... The sinkings of HMHS Britannic & IJS Kongo, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 28 Nov 2024, with 52 time notes. Topics include Anti-Submarine Warfare, Hmhs Britannic, Kongo Class…
Time notes
- 8:49A ten-day snapshot of submarine lethalityChapter
Surveying submarine sinkings from the same ten November days across different years reveals recurring operational patterns.
- 13:06U-73 and the persistence of submarine-laid minesNotable Point
A profile of the German minelayer U-73 shows why mines gave submarines a persistent weapon that remained dangerous after the boat departed.
- 19:21How Britannic incorporated lessons from TitanicChapter
Britannic's altered subdivision, lifeboat arrangements, and hospital access show how White Star responded to Titanic without eliminating every vulnerability.
- 21:10Britannic's hybrid machinery and the meaning of published speedNotable Point
Britannic's combination of reciprocating engines and an exhaust-steam turbine leads into a lesson about why merchant and naval speed figures served different purposes.
- 22:53QuestionCan published speeds for older Royal Navy ships be assumed to reveal their true maximum?AnswerQ&A
No. Concealing maximum performance limits an enemy's ability to match a warship's speed or predict its movements.
- 25:17Britannic's gantry davits and evacuation marginNotable Point
Electric gantry davits could reach lifeboats across the deck, but funnel obstructions and a limited reserve of boat capacity complicated evacuation.
- 32:12Britannic as a mobile wartime hospitalChapter
The conversion of Britannic demonstrates how hospital ships moved casualties from expeditionary theaters to fully equipped hospitals in Britain.
- 40:10Why Britannic's mine damage defeated her subdivisionChapter
Mine damage, a compromised boiler-room passage, a failed watertight door, and open portholes combined to overwhelm Britannic's nominal flooding tolerance.
- 48:11Bartlett's attempt to beach BritannicChapter
Captain Bartlett's effort to reach Kea balanced the ship's value as the safest lifeboat against the danger of launching boats beside turning propellers.
- 49:37QuestionDid restarting Britannic's engines make the situation worse?AnswerQ&A
The criticism overlooks Bartlett's attempt to bring everyone closer to land without knowing whether rescuers were coming. Restarting the engines is defended as a reasonable decision on the information he had.
- 56:48Violet Jessop's eyewitness account of Britannic's lossNotable Point
Nurse Violet Jessop had survived Titanic and Olympic's collision with HMS Hawke before witnessing Britannic's violent final plunge.
- 59:03Why most people survived Britannic's sinkingNotable Point
Warm water, successful boat launching, nearby fishermen, and rapid naval assistance kept Britannic's death toll far below Titanic's.
- 1:03:44QuestionWhich ship rescued Violet Jessop after Britannic sank?AnswerQ&A
The vessel is not established here. Reaching shore and helping at a nursing station is suggested as another possibility.
- 1:06:26USS Sealion and the Balao-class patrol submarineChapter
Sealion's speed, range, endurance, torpedo battery, and later transport conversion illustrate the flexibility of the Balao-class design.
- 1:15:19How reconstruction moved Kongō toward a fast battleshipChapter
Kongō's interwar armor and subdivision changes place her near the boundary between battlecruiser and fast battleship rather than neatly in one category.
- 1:24:55QuestionShould Dunkerque be classified as a battleship or a battlecruiser?AnswerQ&A
Dunkerque is a fast battleship.
- 1:25:38Sealion's radar approach against KongōChapter
Sealion tracked a non-zigzagging Japanese formation by radar, fired at Kongō and Nagato, and pursued the damaged battlecruiser until her fatal explosion.
- 1:30:54Sealion's recorded attack and memorialized torpedoesNotable Point
A surviving sound recording and torpedoes named for men lost aboard the first Sealion preserve an unusually personal record of the attack on Kongō.
- 1:35:32The unresolved cause of Kongō's magazine explosionNotable Point
The distance between Kongō's torpedo hits and forward magazine leaves the final explosion difficult to explain without wreck evidence or surviving testimony.
- 1:37:55QuestionCould Type 3 anti-aircraft shells explain Kongō's magazine explosion?AnswerQ&A
Type 3 shells are one suggestion, but the magazines were separated and protected to limit an explosion spreading between them. Other causes remain possible.
- 1:39:30QuestionCould chemicals reacting with seawater explain Kongō's explosion?AnswerQ&A
Such materials should be kept from contact with seawater. Chemicals sealed inside an intact shell would not be exposed simply because the ship flooded.
- 1:41:01QuestionIf sea water on submarine batteries can produce chlorine gas, what do submarines use to fight fires?AnswerQ&A
Foam and other dedicated fire-extinguishing systems, selected to avoid creating an additional battery-related hazard.
- 1:42:36QuestionWhat happens when a compartment is reopened after starving a fire of oxygen?AnswerQ&A
Air entering a still-hot compartment can cause renewed flames and a flash burn, even if no flame was visible before the door opened.
- 1:44:01Why Barham's magazine explosion does not settle Kongō's lossNotable Point
Different torpedo-hit positions and magazine arrangements limit the comparison between Barham and Kongō.
- 1:46:18QuestionWhere were Kongō's cooking facilities in relation to the forward magazine, and what facilities did she have?AnswerQ&A
The cooking facilities are recalled as farther away, but their position is uncertain in this memory-based answer.
- 1:51:56The loss of Suffren to U-52Chapter
The French pre-dreadnought Suffren was caught without an escort off Portugal and disappeared within seconds after U-52 detonated a magazine.
- 1:53:35QuestionHow would Kongō fare in a one-on-one fight with Renown or Repulse?AnswerQ&A
Renown is favored through superior radar and fire control. Kongō is favored over Repulse by day, while both British ships are favored at night because of their night-fighting training.
- 1:56:44Why Suffren's 6.5-inch shells strained manual handlingNotable Point
Suffren's turreted 6.5-inch secondary battery sat at an awkward boundary where nominally hand-worked ammunition was heavy enough to require mechanical assistance.
- 2:01:38U-52's four patrols and the strategic cost of Nottingham's lossChapter
A modest Type U 51 boat achieved an exceptional record, while its sinking of HMS Nottingham helped expose the submarine screen supporting a German post-Jutland operation.
- 2:08:18The false comfort of a safe sea zoneNotable Point
Suffren's loss supports a broader warning that warships cannot abandon escorts, zigzagging, or vigilance merely because an area seems safe.
- 2:12:31Dunedin's fatal zigzag into U-124's torpedoesChapter
HMS Dunedin's successful wartime service ended when a routine zigzag carried her into two torpedoes fired beyond their expected range.
- 2:13:55Black Swan and Stonecrop destroy U-124Notable Point
A Flower-class corvette and an anti-submarine sloop ended U-124's eleventh patrol off Portugal.
- 2:16:47QuestionWhat condition was the surviving Black Swan-class vessel in Egypt in?AnswerQ&A
Her condition was uncertain because reports conflicted and had not been checked by a personal visit.
- 2:19:00Dunedin's captures of Hannover and Enigma equipmentNotable Point
Captured merchant ships provided naval hulls and intelligence as well as denying resources to the enemy.
- 2:25:51QuestionCould a submarine quickly lay a string of mines in front of an approaching convoy?AnswerQ&A
Yes, given enough distance, but zigzagging may bypass the field; confined routes and straits offer better placement and a greater chance of multiple hits.
- 2:27:19Why Mediterranean U-boat deployment was nearly one-wayNotable Point
The Type VIIC's low submerged speed made entry into the Mediterranean easier than escape, turning geography and Allied air patrols into strategic constraints.
- 2:27:27QuestionDid German submarines attempt to lay mines in the Gulf of St. Lawrence?AnswerQ&A
Possibly on a couple of occasions, but this remains an unverified recollection.
- 2:29:30U-331's deck-gun action against landing craftNotable Point
After a torpedo missed off Egypt, U-331 surfaced to use her 88 mm gun, only for 40 mm return fire to damage the submarine and force repairs.
- 2:31:11QuestionDid the Allies carry out offensive mining operations in the Mediterranean?AnswerQ&A
Yes. Air-dropped mines were common in World War II, and submarines also conducted minelaying operations.
- 2:32:09Barham's interwar modernisation and its limitsNotable Point
Barham's interwar refits improved fire control, anti-aircraft armament, armor, and underwater protection within the limits of her existing design.
- 2:33:41U-331's point-blank attack on HMS BarhamChapter
U-331 penetrated a destroyer screen and hit Barham with three nearly simultaneous torpedoes, producing catastrophic flooding and a magazine explosion.
- 2:39:34Barham's secret loss and the Helen Duncan caseNotable Point
The Admiralty's temporary concealment of Barham's loss intersects with medium Helen Duncan's claim that a dead sailor had revealed the sinking.
- 2:40:13Why Barham's clustered torpedo hits overwhelmed protectionNotable Point
Three near-simultaneous hits within a few meters concentrated underwater shock unlike the spaced impacts expected from a normal torpedo spread.
- 2:41:34U-331's surrender lost in the communications chainChapter
U-331 signaled surrender after air attack left her unable to dive, but the message never reached Formidable's approaching aircraft before they struck.
- 2:46:07U-177's long-range reach and destruction from the airNotable Point
The boat that sank Nova Scotia on its first patrol was later caught by a Liberator, with USS Omaha recovering the surviving crew.
- 2:46:54Why published speed figures conceal wartime machinery strainNotable Point
Weather and machinery limits can reconcile different speed figures, while wartime operating practices impose much greater engine wear.
- 2:52:24Nova Scotia's independent route beyond FreetownNotable Point
Nova Scotia left convoy protection at Freetown and later sailed unescorted toward Durban with Italian prisoners and internees.
- 2:54:01Nova Scotia, U-177, and the Laconia OrderChapter
After sinking Nova Scotia, U-177 learned that many survivors were Italians but received orders to leave them and continue its patrol.
- 2:54:25Nova Scotia's evacuation, rescue, and Italian war gravesNotable Point
Only one lifeboat got away before Nova Scotia sank, leaving survivors dependent on rafts and wreckage until rescue reached the area.
- 2:59:08QuestionWhat caused HMS Barham's final catastrophic explosion?AnswerQ&A
The inquiry favored a 4-inch magazine igniting a 15-inch magazine, but the evidence also permits a boiler explosion caused by the clustered torpedo impacts, possibly alongside the magazine detonation.
- 3:02:34QuestionDid anything else in the formation get hit by shrapnel from Barham?AnswerQ&A
The blast was reportedly felt across the formation, but no specific damage to another ship is identified.
- 3:03:30QuestionHas HMS Barham's wreck been found, and could it resolve the cause of the explosion?AnswerQ&A
Its approximate deep-water loss area was known, but the wreck had not been precisely located or explored in this account. A detailed survey of the forward wreckage might clarify the explosion sequence.