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Kongōs at Jutland: IJN goes all or nothing in the North Sea in WWI... Patreon Premier 3

Study Kongōs at Jutland: IJN goes all or nothing in the North Sea in WWI... Patreon Premier 3, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 20 Jun 2024, with 38 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Anglo-Japanese Alliance…

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Runtime2:06:40
Guide points38 time notes

Time notes

  1. 0:40
    Japan either stays home or sends everything

    Japan's proposed European deployment depends on whether committing its fleet to Britain offers more security than keeping the ships at home.

    Chapter
  2. 10:00
    Why November 1915 changes Japan's calculation

    A November 1915 decision allows time for Japan to reconsider Pacific security, gain European combat experience, and strengthen the British alliance.

    Notable Point
  3. 15:18
    The fleet package becomes a diplomatic statement

    The proposed deployment sends Kongo-class battlecruisers, Fuso, older battleships, and Togo Heihachiro to make Japan's alliance commitment impossible to ignore.

    Chapter
  4. 15:18
    The Kongos approach the fast-battleship boundary

    The Kongos' 14-inch guns and intended battle role explain why they would be a powerful addition to the British battlecruiser force.

    Notable Point
  5. 16:16
    Kawachi and Settsu would reinforce the Channel force

    Japan's semi-dreadnoughts would complicate Grand Fleet gunnery, but their mixed batteries could reinforce Channel defence and provide fire support ashore.

    Notable Point
  6. 18:11
    Sending the new Fuso would demonstrate Japan's commitment

    Fuso's twelve 14-inch guns would add fighting power, while sending Japan's newest dreadnought would give the deployment greater diplomatic weight.

    Notable Point
  7. 21:36
    Togo would represent Japan in London rather than command at sea

    Togo's standing after Tsushima would give Japan a senior representative able to press its interests with British naval and political leaders.

    Notable Point
  8. 30:45
    Where the Japanese ships fit into British commands

    Fuso would join Jellicoe's battleships, the older Japanese battleships would reinforce the Channel, and the Kongos would enter Beatty's command after months of joint training.

    Notable Point
  9. 30:45
    Choosing a commander without weakening Japan's home fleet

    The expedition needs a vice admiral with senior command experience, while Japan must retain capable leadership for the fleet left at home.

    Notable Point
  10. 35:08
    More Japanese battleships could form a full squadron

    Fuso's sister could join in 1917, while accelerated construction of two later ships might eventually create a four-ship Japanese battle squadron.

    Notable Point
  11. 36:13
    Japanese reinforcement could expand the Channel command

    Kawachi, Settsu, a Japanese rear admiral, and a destroyer flotilla could give the Channel force enough strength and seniority for a larger command.

    Notable Point
  12. 38:49
    Harwich could accelerate Japanese destroyer experience

    Attaching part of a Japanese destroyer flotilla to the Harwich Force would provide almost continuous operational experience before Jutland.

    Notable Point
  13. 40:13
    Fuso could bring a Japanese divisional commander into the Grand Fleet

    Fuso's place near Jellicoe would allow time to learn British procedures before its rear admiral potentially took command of a division.

    Notable Point
  14. 45:46
    Squadron naming and seniority complicate Japanese integration

    A Japanese vice admiral could become Beatty's second in command, while culturally sensitive squadron naming and months of exercises prepare the combined force.

    Notable Point
  15. 49:34
    Rosyth's crowded anchorage could encourage gunnery rotations

    Accommodating the Kongos at Rosyth could lead to rotating British squadrons through Scapa Flow for more gunnery practice.

    Notable Point
  16. 54:24
    Destroyers and armored cruisers complete the Japanese fleet package

    Kaba- and Kamikaze-class destroyers would provide escorts, while Ibuki- and Tsukuba-class armored cruisers offer support subject to fleet speed requirements.

    Notable Point
  17. 57:07
    Extra 14-inch guns reshape the run to the south

    Adding the Kongo-class battlecruisers would give Beatty a larger fast force whose 14-inch guns could put the German scouting group under pressure from the opening action.

    Chapter
  18. 1:07:57
    Japanese signals could bring Jellicoe south sooner

    A Japanese report of the opening action could reach Jellicoe despite weaknesses in Beatty's communications and accelerate the Grand Fleet's approach.

    Notable Point
  19. 1:10:48
    Extra shellfire could change Queen Mary's fate

    Early damage to the German battlecruisers could spare Queen Mary their concentrated fire, while Indefatigable remains especially vulnerable.

    Notable Point
  20. 1:17:40
    A full fleet battle could destroy the High Seas Fleet

    If Scheer presses into the Grand Fleet, the combined British-Japanese force may turn Jutland from an ambiguous battle into a decisive High Seas Fleet disaster.

    Notable Point
  21. 1:20:40
    Togo's Tsushima doctrine could keep battlecruisers on the wing

    A lesson drawn from Tsushima could keep the combined battlecruisers out of Jellicoe's main line and free them to fire from the flank or block a German retreat.

    Notable Point
  22. 1:23:30
    The likeliest German response is to break off early

    Repeated simulations suggest that Scheer is more likely to abandon the pursuit after a bloodier run to the south than accept a decisive fleet engagement.

    Notable Point
  23. 1:25:03
    Fresh Queen Elizabeths could lead Jellicoe's battle line

    Keeping Fifth Battle Squadron with Jellicoe would bring its strongest gunnery ships into the fleet action before they had endured the battlecruiser fight.

    Notable Point
  24. 1:30:37
    Destroyer pursuit could close the German escape routes

    In the decisive branch, Jellicoe could commit destroyer flotillas and supporting cruisers to the melee, with possible Harwich Force intervention adding pressure on the German retreat.

    Notable Point
  25. 1:36:34
    A decisive Jutland could transform the admirals' reputations

    Destroying the High Seas Fleet could bring public acclaim for Jellicoe and Togo, while Beatty's commemoration would depend on whether he survived.

    Notable Point
  26. 1:37:58
    A decisive victory could open the coast while delaying a Baltic offensive

    Concentrated Allied naval gunfire could support a coastal advance, but six to eight months of repairs or more would constrain a Baltic offensive.

    Notable Point
  27. 1:40:10
    A British battlecruiser could replace a lost Kongo

    If Japan loses a Kongo at Jutland, Britain might offer Renown or Repulse as visible compensation for its ally's sacrifice.

    Notable Point
  28. 1:40:47
    A decisive Jutland could reshape alliances and naval treaties

    In the decisive branch, closer Anglo-Japanese ties and an earlier peace could change naval treaty negotiations and future fleet construction.

    Chapter
  29. 1:40:47
    An early peace could remove Wilhelm II but preserve the monarchy

    A negotiated settlement in 1917 might force Wilhelm II to abdicate while preserving the monarchy, given the interests of the Allied monarchies.

    Notable Point
  30. 1:45:29
    Close fighting could accelerate fast-battleship development

    A Jutland that ends at close range could favour ships combining pursuit speed with heavier protection and prompt investment in facilities for larger capital ships.

    Notable Point
  31. 1:47:25
    QuestionWould a stronger Anglo-Japanese alliance lead Britain and the United States into war?Answer

    No. Anglo-American cooperation would probably continue alongside political disagreements, without a plausible trigger for war.

    Q&A
  32. 1:49:05
    An earlier peace also leaves dangerous lessons unlearned

    An earlier peace could reduce losses and encourage trade with Japan, while leaving some anti-submarine lessons to be learned in a later war.

    Notable Point
  33. 1:49:41
    An early peace could change the Pacific settlement

    In this counterfactual, former German possessions would become direct imperial acquisitions without a League mandate system, and Japan might receive more territory.

    Notable Point
  34. 1:51:56
    Jutland's result redirects postwar capital-ship programs

    The counterfactual leaves room for completing American capital ships and retiring older British vessels, while Jellicoe's influence could favour new fast battleships.

    Chapter
  35. 1:53:31
    A Jutland victory may keep Asquith in office

    A decisive naval victory could strengthen H. H. Asquith enough to prevent David Lloyd George from replacing him as prime minister in December 1916.

    Notable Point
  36. 1:57:05
    Togo could carry British constitutional practice back to Japan

    Years in Britain might change what Togo teaches the future emperor about how a constitutional monarch influences policy without directly ruling.

    Notable Point
  37. 1:59:18
    An early peace might prevent the October Revolution

    If the war ends early enough in 1917, Russia may still overthrow the tsar without proceeding to the Bolshevik October Revolution, radically changing the postwar balance.

    Notable Point
  38. 2:00:52
    Japan could draw a different lesson from a costly victory

    Japan might consider heavy naval losses acceptable in return for the gains from victory, leaving it with a different view of war from its European allies.

    Notable Point