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@Drachinifel & Dr Clarke Discuss Royal Navy Aircraft Carriers that almost were! #2Historians ep 1
Study @Drachinifel & Dr Clarke Discuss Royal Navy Aircraft Carriers that almost were! #2Historians ep 1, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 12 Nov 2024, with 48 time notes. Topics include Aircraft Carriers, Alternate…
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- 7:10QuestionWhat would the ideal pre-Second World War aircraft carrier have looked like for the Royal Navy?AnswerQ&A
Convert two surviving Admiral-class battlecruiser hulls into large carriers, accepting the loss of Courageous and Glorious to gain a faster, more capable interwar carrier core.
- 10:19Cammell Laird's missing Admiral-class conversion studiesNotable Point
References to Admiral-class conversion studies help explain Cammell Laird's reputation as a strike-carrier specialist before building Ark Royal.
- 15:09How large carriers could have strengthened the Fleet Air ArmNotable Point
Large Admiral-class conversions might have raised naval aviation's institutional status and improved the Royal Navy's influence over aircraft requirements.
- 20:13Why naval aero engineers needed direct links with industryNotable Point
Several naval and Air Ministry offices separated Fleet Air Arm experience from the engineers designing its aircraft.
- 21:51A layered interwar carrier fleetChapter
The alternate fleet assigns older and smaller carriers to support, training, cruiser, and regional duties around two large strike carriers.
- 26:39Argus and Queen Bee target dronesNotable Point
Argus's Queen Bee aircraft put drone operations at sea decades before modern uncrewed carrier proposals.
- 27:21Large hangars and twin-engine carrier aircraftNotable Point
Large Admiral-class conversions could encourage twin-engine naval aircraft and alter the hangar layout of later carriers.
- 30:24A compact deck-edge lift for an enclosed hangarNotable Point
A Wasp-style lift could free internal space while allowing heavy doors to close the hangar against North Sea weather.
- 33:33Blackburn Blackburn spotting and early warningNotable Point
The Blackburn Blackburn combined naval spotting equipment with visual warning of approaching aircraft.
- 34:37Three Admiral-class carriers before the Washington treatyNotable Point
Restarting all three suspended Admiral-class hulls as carriers would change the fleet Britain brought to the Washington negotiations.
- 35:43Strike, fleet, and cruiser carrier doctrineChapter
The Royal Navy distinguished strike-carrier, fleet-carrier, and cruiser-carrier concepts between the wars.
- 39:40Armored Ark Royals and multi-carrier operationsChapter
The ideal late-interwar design combines Ark Royal's air group with armor, while larger surviving carriers make multi-carrier operations more attainable.
- 40:33Carrier armour and the Far East reinforcement problemNotable Point
Far East deployment made repair distance a carrier-design problem, while the RAF reinforcement plan required the same ships to ferry aircraft east.
- 45:18Survivable fleet carriers and smaller ASW escortsNotable Point
Replacing Courageous and Glorious with larger Admiral conversions changes both the damage the fleet carriers might survive and which ships should accept convoy and submarine-hunting risk.
- 47:57How a larger carrier could change the Glorious encounterNotable Point
A larger replacement for Glorious could rescue RAF aircraft while maintaining reconnaissance, giving it time to avoid or attack the German battlecruisers.
- 50:48Who paid for the interwar Fleet Air Arm?Notable Point
The Navy financed the Fleet Air Arm even while the Air Ministry administered pilots, contracts, and the route to aircraft manufacturers.
- 51:58Why Malta and Midway convergedChapter
British Malta and American Midway designs approached a common compromise between armored flight decks, large air groups, and ventilated hangars.
- 56:01Why operating areas shaped carrier armour and hangarsNotable Point
Pacific sea room, confined British operating areas and North Sea weather produced different compromises between aircraft capacity, protection and hangar ventilation.
- 58:37False lessons from carrier exercisesNotable Point
Artificial exercise boundaries could exaggerate the ability of cruisers to find carriers and distort which ships attacking aircraft would choose.
- 1:01:00QuestionWhat did the Royal Navy have as its surviving postwar carrier fleet before considering further construction?AnswerQ&A
The survivors included the Illustrious and Implacable classes, Unicorn and the elderly Furious and Argus, with Colossus and Majestic light carriers coming into service. The proposed plan retires the worn Illustrious class from front-line service and retains the Implacables temporarily.
- 1:04:55Why wartime carrier machinery wore out so quicklyNotable Point
Repeated high-speed flight operations gave aircraft carriers destroyer-like machinery wear, leaving the Illustrious class with little economical postwar life.
- 1:08:19Use light carriers to perfect the jet-age fleetChapter
A staged program uses light carriers for experiments before completing Audacious and Malta hulls with mature jet-age features.
- 1:13:42Build the Centaurs for amphibious assault and commandChapter
The Centaur class becomes a purposefully limited helicopter, amphibious-assault, and command layer beneath the larger Audacious and Malta carrier force.
- 1:14:51Saving Ark Royal and Eagle for the Malta classNotable Point
The largest alternate carriers inherit the Royal Navy's most prestigious carrier names, with Africa treated as the Malta-class hull most easily renamed.
- 1:17:19Designing a carrier fleet to survive Treasury cutsNotable Point
A layered fleet protects four Malta-class strike carriers by offering less capable ships for successive budget reductions.
- 1:21:24When the Malta carriers would need replacingNotable Point
Hull wear, machinery condition, and growing aircraft would put Malta replacements into construction in the early-to-mid 1980s.
- 1:22:26An Atlantic carrier navy as a diplomatic instrumentNotable Point
A sustained British carrier force could anchor NATO's Atlantic strike command and become a routine instrument of prime-ministerial signaling.
- 1:25:27How authoritarian institutions can preserve bad informationNotable Point
A caveated Soviet targeting story illustrates how propaganda, hierarchy, and fear can preserve factual errors inside a technically powerful state.
- 1:29:52A four-carrier replacement cycle for the 1980sChapter
Four identical carriers could keep two hulls at sea and surge a third by changing the Royal Marines support ship's air group.
- 1:34:02A defensive carrier for reinforcing northern NorwayNotable Point
A helicopter-heavy carrier with fighters and Hawkeyes could protect amphibious movement, while a larger Fearless force carried the Royal Marines.
- 1:36:20QuestionHow practical would a navalized Tornado have been, and would it have been better than the F-14 Tomcat?AnswerQ&A
It was physically possible, but the required airframe redesign and the limited advantages over existing naval aircraft made it an unattractive alternative to the F-14.
- 1:40:54A British fleet-defense fighter after Sea VixenChapter
Sustained naval aircraft orders could support a Sea Vixen successor, while larger decks simplify the alternative of operating Phantoms.
- 1:43:36An Anglo-French Super Jaguar for carrier strikeChapter
The proposed Super Jaguar turns an existing rough-field attack-aircraft family into a shared British and French carrier strike program.
- 1:47:32Use V/STOL fighters to launch air defense fasterNotable Point
Rolling takeoffs could get defensive fighters airborne while the carrier's catapults launched strike aircraft.
- 1:49:29Merchant ships as distributed fighter basesNotable Point
Supersonic V/STOL fighters could give merchant ships a limited self-defense role against Soviet bomber raids without creating full auxiliary carriers.
- 1:53:21A 1980s carrier fleet still serving with F-35sNotable Point
In the video's present-day scenario, carriers commissioned around 1990 still have useful service ahead, with replacement planning and the F-35B/F-35C choice remaining open.
- 1:57:47Catapults and the cost of reducing carrier capacityChapter
The preferred Queen Elizabeth design combines catapults and F-35Cs, while small reductions in hangar size can remove a large share of the air group.
- 2:00:31QuestionWould Queen Elizabeth-class carriers need to be larger if they used catapults and operated F-35Cs?AnswerQ&A
A larger hangar is favoured, although folded F-35Cs would occupy less width than F-35Bs. Space for complete squadrons and fixed-wing airborne early-warning aircraft also matters.
- 2:01:49Why carriers endure when their aircraft changeNotable Point
A carrier's striking power can change with its aircraft while the ship continues to provide the mobile base those aircraft need.
- 2:05:03How dockyards and bases shape carrier designChapter
Construction docks, gates, and bridges can determine carrier dimensions before the desired air group has been fully accommodated.
- 2:08:29A second carrier base on MerseysideNotable Point
A larger carrier fleet could create a Merseyside base whose employment and local political support would help protect carrier numbers.
- 2:10:50Using ship names to protect a carrier programNotable Point
Naming four carriers London, Cardiff, Edinburgh, and Belfast would make cancellations politically costly across the United Kingdom.
- 2:14:59Project Ark Royal and a mixed carrier air groupChapter
Project Ark Royal leaves open how crewed aircraft and drones would divide carrier missions and whether drones would be supporting aircraft or equivalent combat assets.
- 2:16:27Autonomous evasion and the next carrier dronesNotable Point
Small reconnaissance drones in Ukraine suggest how autonomous threat detection and evasive manoeuvres could improve the survivability of larger uncrewed aircraft.
- 2:19:59Drone-carrying drones and the old bomber problemNotable Point
A cheap long-range drone could deliver many smaller autonomous drones, recreating the Cold War requirement to destroy bombers before weapon release.
- 2:25:26CV(A)-01 and the cost of abandoning a distinctive NATO roleNotable Point
The alternate carrier programme bypasses CV(A)-01 and frames the central-front defence settlement as a loss of Britain's distinctive maritime contribution to NATO.
- 2:27:01When refits move a battlecruiser toward a fast battleshipNotable Point
The Kongo-class aside shows why warship classification can change as reconstruction alters protection, subdivision, and hull characteristics.
- 2:28:31Carrier hangars, naval diplomacy, and escalationNotable Point
Carrier hangars support diplomacy as well as aircraft, while a varied fleet gives governments more rungs on the ladder between routine presence and combat.