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Could Teddy Roosevelt do a Naval Treaty in 1909 & if so what might it be like?

Study Could Teddy Roosevelt do a Naval Treaty in 1909 & if so what might it be like?, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 22 Feb 2025, with 27 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Battleship Design, Dreadnought Race.

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Runtime1:22:53
Guide points27 time notes

Time notes

  1. 0:00
    The quantitative and qualitative dreadnought races

    The opening distinguishes the Anglo-German race in fleet numbers from a wider international contest to build more capable battleships.

    Chapter
  2. 5:47
    Roosevelt, Taft, and the politics of an American treaty initiative

    A treaty would have to begin before Roosevelt left office, despite an American political coalition strongly invested in naval growth.

    Chapter
  3. 7:16
    Roosevelt as a media-era world statesman

    Roosevelt's international standing depended on public appearances, press management, and the calculated display of American power as well as direct diplomacy.

    Notable Point
  4. 15:06
    Why Britain would reject ratios and naval equality

    Fisher, McKenna, Asquith, and the Crown regarded Royal Navy superiority as essential, ruling out equal fleet ratios in 1909.

    Chapter
  5. 21:17
    Japan's navy as the foundation of great-power security

    Japan's victory over Russia and dependence on sea power make freezing its still-growing fleet politically unattractive.

    Chapter
  6. 23:56
    France's naval lag meets Third Republic instability

    France needed to recover from a serious dreadnought lag while unstable coalitions made a durable treaty position difficult to sustain.

    Chapter
  7. 27:11
    Italy treats dreadnought building as proof of great-power status

    Dante Alighieri embodied Italy's claim to great-power standing, while parliamentary and naval politics made voluntary restraint unattractive.

    Chapter
  8. 30:15
    Germany's army might favor restraint, but the Kaiser and navy would not

    The German Army had a budgetary reason to curb naval spending, but Wilhelm II and Tirpitz had invested prestige and policy in fleet expansion.

    Chapter
  9. 32:59
    Why postwar governments had reasons to limit naval spending

    The Washington settlement rested on fiscal, social, and reconstruction pressures that did not exist in 1909.

    Notable Point
  10. 34:10
    Russia wants recovery after Tsushima, not a frozen fleet

    Four years after Tsushima, Imperial Russia saw the Gangut program as a way to restore military credibility and great-power standing.

    Chapter
  11. 36:08
    Austria-Hungary's divided politics meet Montecuccoli's battleship drive

    The Dual Monarchy was hard to bind diplomatically, yet Admiral Rudolf Montecuccoli was determined to secure a modern battle fleet.

    Chapter
  12. 39:01
    Why a Washington-style treaty cannot work in 1909

    Uncertain technology, national prestige, too many relevant powers, and weak mutual trust defeat a comprehensive ratio system.

    Chapter
  13. 41:39
    Armaments industry made naval restraint an economic question

    Gun development and shipbuilding supported employment, research, and national industry, adding domestic economic interests to the diplomatic barriers against a treaty.

    Notable Point
  14. 45:01
    A treaty could intensify Germany's Army-Navy conflict

    Army support for a spending ceiling could collide with Wilhelm II's prestige politics and Tirpitz's fleet program, creating an internal German crisis rather than stable restraint.

    Notable Point
  15. 47:27
    Fleet ratios ignore the geography of imperial commitments

    Russia and Britain could cite widely dispersed theatres to argue that formally equal limits would leave them with unequal security.

    Notable Point
  16. 49:45
    The plausible treaty: cap individual ships, not fleets

    The one plausible agreement would leave numbers unlimited while capping each capital ship near 25,000 tons and 12- or 14-inch guns.

    Chapter
  17. 54:33
    A qualitative cap turns every rivalry into a numbers race

    With ship numbers unlimited, a common design ceiling favors industrial powers that can repeat one battleship design at scale.

    Notable Point
  18. 56:20
    Competition moves into speed and power density

    Once displacement and gun calibre are capped, propulsion becomes the clearest remaining route to a superior battleship.

    Notable Point
  19. 58:07
    Roosevelt, Tillman, and Britain could support the cap for different reasons

    Predictable unit costs could unite American political rivals and let Britain repeat a mature design without surrendering fleet numbers.

    Chapter
  20. 1:01:02
    Japan and France could use the cap to catch up

    A stable ceiling gives Japan and France time to strengthen their industrial bases without fearing an even larger foreign battleship.

    Chapter
  21. 1:02:34
    Italy can optimize for the Mediterranean but loses its qualitative escape

    Italy could build a strong Mediterranean battleship within the ceiling, but the rule would suppress the high-quality designs used to offset limited industrial scale.

    Chapter
  22. 1:04:23
    A fixed limit helps the Navy Laws but forces German design compromises

    Tirpitz gains a predictable basis for the risk fleet, but German designers must trade speed, armour, freeboard, and gun calibre inside the cap.

    Chapter
  23. 1:06:03
    Russia's Ganguts fit the limit, but its global requirements do not

    The Gangut design sits close to the proposed limit, but Russia needs endurance and protection for deployments between widely separated fleets.

    Notable Point
  24. 1:09:44
    Dreadnought growth quickly outpaces the treaty limit

    The leap from Iron Duke to Queen Elizabeth shows how quickly a plausible 1909 ceiling would obstruct a new generation of naval architecture.

    Chapter
  25. 1:13:33
    Warship exports create a non-signatory loophole

    A ship-size cap fails if signatory yards can still build larger battleships for Brazil, Argentina, Chile, the Ottoman Empire, Greece, or another outside customer.

    Notable Point
  26. 1:14:28
    Displacement evasions would erode the treaty

    Builders could hide an oversized battleship behind category claims, incomplete armour, or water tanks used as protection, while governments lacked a strong reason to enforce the cap.

    Chapter
  27. 1:18:08
    The Paulet Affair as a lesson in naval diplomacy

    The closing preview explains how Rear Admiral Richard Darton Thomas ended Britain's occupation of Hawaii while preserving British prestige and containing American triumphalism.

    Notable Point