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Patreon 96: Odd ship designs that actually work.
Study Patreon 96: Odd ship designs that actually work., a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 25 Jan 2024, with 44 time notes. Topics include Naval Architecture, Naval Aviation, Naval Logistics.
Time notes
- 4:50What makes an odd ship design workNotable Point
Unconventional ships qualify by carrying out a designed function, even when that ability fails to justify the vessel.
- 10:37Who can afford to write history?Notable Point
Insecure academic employment could make historical research increasingly dependent on outside income, reviving the conditions associated with gentleman historians.
- 12:35Ise and Hyuga as compromised hybrid carriersChapter
The Ise-class conversion could launch aircraft, but slow speed, weak recovery arrangements, and competing battleship requirements made the hybrid operationally unconvincing.
- 17:38QuestionWould helicopters make the hybrid design useful for anti-submarine warfare?AnswerQ&A
A helicopter could perform anti-submarine work, but the hybrid still needs a clear mission that justifies combining aviation with a battleship.
- 19:13What else could the hybrid conversion resources support?Notable Point
The hybrids consumed crew and construction resources that could instead have supported merchant-ship conversions into carriers.
- 20:23Why no navy mastered every part of carrier aviationNotable Point
Japanese pilot replacement, British carrier shortages and uneven American night-strike capability exposed different weaknesses in otherwise capable naval air forces.
- 21:45How more British carriers could have changed wartime operationsNotable Point
A counterfactual with more British carriers supports larger coordinated strikes and more maintenance time, while retaining the limits of wartime shipbuilding.
- 23:11Ark Royal's condition and damage-control decisionsNotable Point
Ark Royal's loss involved both material condition and damage-control decisions, with disagreement over their relative importance.
- 24:56QuestionWould Ise and Hyuga have done better than HMS Glorious against Scharnhorst and Gneisenau?AnswerQ&A
Probably in a sudden gun action, because their eight 14-inch guns could deter the German ships, but an effective carrier should attack the hybrids before they reach surface range.
- 25:46QuestionWould a rotating pilot program have kept Japanese naval aviation effective by Pearl Harbor and afterward?AnswerQ&A
It might slightly reduce peak early-war proficiency, but it would create a broader, more sustainable force by passing veteran experience into training and mixed squadrons.
- 29:24Battle-carriers as an unresolved fleet compromiseNotable Point
A contemporary gunnery officer's criticism treats hybrid battle-carriers as incompatible requirements joined by institutional reluctance to abandon the old battle fleet.
- 31:34The age of Ise and Hyuga at conversionNotable Point
The ships' First World War origins reinforce the objection to spending further resources on their conversion.
- 32:13Ramform Hyperion's triangular seismic-survey hullChapter
Ramform Hyperion's broad triangular stern provides the width needed to deploy dense arrays of seismic-survey streamers.
- 36:52QuestionIs Ramform Hyperion a trimaran?AnswerQ&A
No. It has a single triangular hull.
- 38:25QuestionWhat does 4D analysis mean for a seismic survey ship?AnswerQ&A
It repeats measurements over time so analysts can track changes in seismic or subsurface activity.
- 38:49Conscription and equipment limits in a hypothetical world warNotable Point
A hypothetical British war with Russia raises questions about allied mobilization, conscription for both sexes, and shortages of weapons and defensive equipment.
- 42:11QuestionWhat are your views on outsourcing military recruitment and procurement?AnswerQ&A
The objection is that private provision need not be cheaper when domestic warship construction offers very limited yard choice and a single government customer.
- 43:36Adapting Ramform's sensor platform for ocean surveillanceNotable Point
Ramform's sensor capacity suggests a commercial basis for dedicated ocean-surveillance ships in peer anti-submarine warfare.
- 45:36QuestionHow does Ramform Hyperion handle stormy weather?AnswerQ&A
Surprisingly well.
- 45:56Falklands deterrence and fear of escalationNotable Point
A criticism of British caution before the Falklands War connects deterrent deployments with the danger of appearing to provoke conflict.
- 50:19SBX turns an oil platform into a mobile missile sensorChapter
The Sea-Based X-Band Radar places a powerful missile-tracking sensor on a mobile semi-submersible platform to extend early warning and engagement-quality data.
- 53:20SBX's civilian crew and possible reserve tiesNotable Point
Civilian contractor status does not establish whether SBX crew members have previous military service or reserve obligations.
- 57:57QuestionWould the Sea-Based X-Band Radar need protection at sea?AnswerQ&A
Yes, but assigning a Burke-class destroyer would tie up a scarce combatant, while arming another oil-platform conversion would create a slow and politically difficult substitute.
- 1:00:31QuestionHow many Mark 41 cells could a converted oil platform carry?AnswerQ&A
No cell count is supplied. The suggestion is that a stable semi-submersible might allow VLS cells to be reloaded on board.
- 1:02:28FLIP becomes a vertical ocean laboratoryChapter
FLIP flooded ballast tanks to rotate from a towable horizontal hull into a spar-like vertical laboratory largely isolated from surface-wave motion.
- 1:06:54QuestionAre there plans to replace FLIP?AnswerQ&A
A replacement is considered unlikely after rejection of the $8 million life extension, with a new design expected to attract expensive additional requirements.
- 1:09:06Surcouf and the cruiser-submarine contradictionChapter
Surcouf traded submerged concealment for economical gun attacks, then had to aim two heavy guns from an unstable submarine hull.
- 1:12:47Why Surcouf's 8-inch guns offered little safety from escortsNotable Point
Low sighting height, slow gun preparation, and turret limits erased much of Surcouf's theoretical range advantage over destroyer escorts.
- 1:18:02QuestionCould Surcouf replenish its ready-use magazines while submerged?AnswerQ&A
The answer remains uncertain: a viewer identifies waterproof storage outside the pressure hull, and the initial recollection of submerged reloading may concern another submarine.
- 1:18:30QuestionWhy did Surcouf need several minutes on the surface before firing?AnswerQ&A
The crew had to remove gun waterproofing, unlock and enter the turrets, dry and check equipment, and prepare the weapons.
- 1:19:19A treaty-legal cruiser submarine still had to justify its costNotable Point
The Washington Naval Treaty's allowance for Surcouf did not make the hybrid concept a better investment than separate cruisers and submarines.
- 1:21:20QuestionWhat if the London Naval Treaty had included a separate category for cruiser submarines?AnswerQ&A
Britain and the United States would probably use the category for vessels closer to large fleet submarines or minelayers, since the Royal Navy had lost enthusiasm for gun-armed cruiser submarines.
- 1:25:26QuestionCould Surcouf use its guns and aircraft to hunt unescorted merchant ships?AnswerQ&A
That was the theory, but finding and recovering the scout aircraft exposed the submarine and limited its movement, while surface cruising risked detection before it could close the target.
- 1:33:23Novgorod's circular hull fits a narrow missionChapter
The Russian circular ships paired very shallow draft and heavy guns with severe drag and handling limits, making them defensible for estuaries and straits but poor open-sea vessels.
- 1:42:45Grillo's tracks attacked harbor barriersChapter
The Grillo-class motor torpedo boats used tracked chains to cross harbor obstructions and reach Austro-Hungarian anchorages with torpedoes.
- 1:43:41QuestionWhat is meant by calling Novgorod's machinery compound engines?AnswerQ&A
Compound engines expand steam through multiple stages; here the term identifies an early, relatively inefficient arrangement rather than a mature double- or triple-expansion engine.
- 1:46:30QuestionWould Grillo have been more useful with tracks instead of chains?AnswerQ&A
Possibly, but no comparative result is given; the chains were chosen because trials showed they worked, although they were noisy.
- 1:48:00Dockwise Vanguard, later BOKA Vanguard, and strategic heavy liftChapter
The semi-submersible Dockwise Vanguard can lift exceptionally large ships, making commercial heavy-lift capacity strategically important for fleet recovery and repair.
- 1:57:27K-class submarines chased surface-fleet speedChapter
The K class used steam turbines to reach fleet speed, but funnels, boilers, and the transition to diving imposed dangerous complexity on a submarine.
- 2:06:28M-class guns and the conflict over cruiser visibilityNotable Point
The gun-armed M class continued the cruiser-submarine idea, whose peacetime visibility requirement conflicted with a submarine's reliance on concealment.
- 2:08:15Nexans Skagerrak is shaped around undersea cable workChapter
Nexans Skagerrak's turntables, protected joining space and handling gear support installation and repair of high-voltage undersea cables.
- 2:12:02SMS Seeadler solved a World War I raider's fuel problemChapter
The sailing raider Seeadler captured sixteen ships while avoiding the fuel and support demands that constrained German surface raiders far from home.
- 2:17:53USS Wolverine scaled carrier-landing trainingChapter
A converted side-wheel passenger ship gave wartime naval aviators a cheap, safe flight deck for repeated carrier-landing practice on the Great Lakes.
- 2:22:54QuestionAre Seeadler and the French barque identified the wrong way round in the painting, judging by their flags?AnswerQ&A
Yes. The flags correct the initial identification, which followed the depicted sail plans; the painting's rigging still conflicts with the descriptions and other images of Seeadler checked during the exchange.