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Patreon 7 – How the RN countered E-Boats in the English Channel as proposed by Paul
Study Patreon 7 – How the RN countered E-Boats in the English Channel as proposed by Paul, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 21 Sept 2020, with 54 time notes. Topics include Coastal Forces, E Boats, English Channel.
Time notes
- 8:40Why British sources say E-boatChapter
British accounts often use E-boat for more than the famous Schnellboot, which can hide the wider German small-craft problem.
- 11:45QuestionDid the Royal Navy consider putting a gas turbine into a motor gun boat?AnswerQ&A
Yes. Postwar Vosper designs are the place to look for turbine-powered fast-craft development.
- 12:16Motor gun boats revive the torpedo-boat destroyerNotable Point
Motor gun boats brought the old torpedo-boat-destroyer mission back to the coastal war in a fast, heavily armed form.
- 15:18QuestionWere early motor gun boats converted for anti-submarine warfare?AnswerQ&A
Some early small craft, especially Fairmile Bs, could be used for anti-submarine work, although the category included more than converted motor gun boats.
- 17:37Channel geography sets the small-craft problemChapter
A Channel patrol boat needed enough speed and endurance to cross, operate near the far shore, and return under darkness across a large search area.
- 19:23QuestionHow did E-boats get into a D-Day practice area despite the expected defenses?AnswerQ&A
The defenses were constrained by ships being withdrawn for maintenance, radar and gun upgrades, and final preparation for the invasion, while human mistakes also left gaps.
- 21:23QuestionTo what extent were sloops, corvettes, and frigates used against torpedo boats?AnswerQ&A
Any suitable convoy escort could engage torpedo boats when required, and those larger escort types carried as much useful armament as their duties allowed.
- 21:39QuestionWhy call the craft E-boats when the Germans called them Schnellboote?AnswerQ&A
Because the stream follows the British wartime perspective, in which E-boat was the Allied label commonly applied to the German Channel threat.
- 23:23QuestionWere motor torpedo boats needed in the Irish Sea because E-boats threatened places such as Pembrokeshire?AnswerQ&A
Not to the same degree, because the Irish Sea was generally too far from German bases for the E-boats' practical operating range.
- 24:22What Schnellboot specifications meant in practiceNotable Point
A Schnellboot combined high speed and useful range with a relatively modest gun battery, while sea conditions reduced what headline figures meant on operations.
- 26:15QuestionWere British motor torpedo boats deployed in the Irish Sea so larger escorts could serve farther out?AnswerQ&A
There may have been a few, but the dominant Irish Sea requirements were anti-submarine and anti-aircraft escort, for which armed trawlers were often adequate.
- 26:50QuestionWould E-boats have been effective against Tribal-class destroyers?AnswerQ&A
No; a Schnellboot caught by a Tribal-class destroyer's much heavier gun battery was in a very unfavorable fight.
- 27:26QuestionWhat did an E-boat have most reason to fear among aircraft, motor boats, destroyers, and sloops?AnswerQ&A
British motor gun boats posed the greatest danger, especially the heavily armed Dog Boats that hunted Schnellboote at very close range.
- 29:32QuestionDid E-boats always carry four torpedoes?AnswerQ&A
They normally carried two ready torpedoes and two reloads, although a special mission could justify leaving the reloads behind to reduce weight.
- 29:57QuestionDid the British prefer steel while the Americans relied more heavily on timber for small boats?AnswerQ&A
No simple national split applies here. Most of the small boats under discussion were built from carefully planed wood.
- 30:14QuestionCould fast torpedo boats carry mines instead of torpedoes?AnswerQ&A
Yes; fittings allowed boats to carry mines on either side in place of torpedoes when the mission called for minelaying.
- 30:31QuestionWhat is the modern equivalent of an E-boat?AnswerQ&A
There is no exact match. A modern German candidate is far larger, while Iranian fast attack craft approach the role without fully reproducing it.
- 31:49Darkness reduced the value of air coverNotable Point
Small-boat operations usually took place at night, while uneven RAF and Royal Navy coordination limited how reliably air power could solve the surface threat.
- 32:37QuestionDid actions involving about fifty German small craft represent a normal concentration of the available force?AnswerQ&A
No. That scale represents a major-operation concentration, with perhaps eighteen to twenty-four craft actually reaching the target area rather than fifty or sixty fighting as one routine attack.
- 34:47Why the fall of France changed the problemChapter
Britain had begun small-craft preparations before the war, but the fall of Norway and France vastly increased the coast and convoy network that required defense.
- 38:07QuestionHow would wartime small combatants compare with modern Royal Navy patrol boats?AnswerQ&A
Modern patrol boats have far better sensors, but their policing and presence mission is different; armed small craft would supplement rather than replace frigates and destroyers.
- 39:32A raised Vosper bow improved seakeepingNotable Point
Later Vosper boats raised the bow around the torpedo launchers, improving their behavior in rough water and slightly increasing speed.
- 42:01Dunkirk turned Ramsay into a coastal-forces advocateNotable Point
After taking over a Vosper boat during Dunkirk, Admiral Ramsay became an unusually forceful institutional champion for motor torpedo boats and related craft.
- 44:11Fairmile production turns timber into fighting craftChapter
Fairmile's wooden craft depended on standardized templates, large timber supplies, and a production system able to absorb rapid wartime development.
- 48:52QuestionWhat advantage did British motor torpedo boats have over American PT boats?AnswerQ&A
Neither design was universally superior: British boats were shaped for rough, close-range Channel and North Sea fighting, while American PT boats were optimized mainly for Pacific operations.
- 50:27Vosper designs for a night in the ChannelChapter
Vosper developed a private-venture boat around high speed, torpedoes, a gun, moderate-sea ability, and a full night crossing to enemy waters.
- 57:02QuestionWere wartime motor boats sold for civilian use after their naval service?AnswerQ&A
Yes; many became ferries, pleasure craft, or houseboats, and the surviving Steam Gun Boat Grey Goose was living a civilian afterlife as a houseboat.
- 57:57QuestionHas the consolidation of shipyards reduced design choice and creativity?AnswerQ&A
Yes. Consolidation encourages more groupthink by reducing the number of independent design organizations.
- 1:00:40A Fall of France counterfactual centered on commandNotable Point
French command-and-control problems were judged so deep that the only workable counterfactual required British communications teams at every level.
- 1:01:33Coastal convoys keep Britain's war economy movingChapter
Britain relied on coastal shipping to distribute imported materials between ports when road and rail capacity could not carry the whole wartime load.
- 1:06:38British railway practice did not make trains universally slowNotable Point
Britain's braking practice did not force wartime trains to move very slowly, though coastal shipping remained necessary.
- 1:11:07Dog Boats combine firepower with adaptationChapter
The Fairmile D could carry an exceptional mix of guns, torpedoes, depth charges, mines, and later sensors for a small craft.
- 1:20:48QuestionDid British small craft experiment with rockets as some tanks and American boats did?AnswerQ&A
Yes. The boats were used for many experiments, although this exchange does not identify a specific rocket system or its results.
- 1:24:30QuestionShould the Royal Navy build a modern Dog Boat for trade protection and Gulf operations?AnswerQ&A
The idea is tempting, but such boats would supplement larger warships, and peacetime rules would probably prevent wartime-style crew modifications.
- 1:25:04QuestionDid Dog Boats receive the 130- and 150-octane fuel used by the RAF in 1944 and 1945?AnswerQ&A
Yes. The boats obtained the high-octane fuel.
- 1:27:46QuestionCould a Dog Boat's hydrophone operator work effectively while the engines were running at full speed?AnswerQ&A
Not comfortably or usefully. Engine noise would be severe, especially aboard a boat fitted with Griffon engines.
- 1:28:27The Channel Dash forces a daylight attackChapter
The Channel Dash put British motor torpedo boats into a high-risk daylight attack against major German ships, an exceptional mission for normally nocturnal craft.
- 1:31:55Fairmile B fittings enable rapid role changesNotable Point
Built-in deck fittings allowed Fairmile B motor launches to be reconfigured quickly for many small-craft missions.
- 1:34:10QuestionWould a German capital ship at St Nazaire have made the British raid less expected rather than more difficult?AnswerQ&A
No. A major warship attracts attack and therefore also attracts extra attention and defensive preparation.
- 1:34:53Small craft at the St Nazaire raidChapter
Operation Chariot demonstrates how Fairmiles and motor torpedo boats supported a combined raid to deny St Nazaire's great dry dock to German capital ships.
- 1:42:30QuestionHow could a modern Dog Boat be armed and designed?AnswerQ&A
A possible design is a fast, modular 250- to 300-ton craft with a medium gun, naval strike missiles, possible surface-to-air weapons, useful range at about 40 knots, and some stealth shaping.
- 1:44:48A command ship must add informationNotable Point
Coastal-force command frigates were useful when they supplied capabilities smaller boats lacked, but radar-equipped Dog Boats could possess the better local tactical picture.
- 1:56:25Intelligence and radar set the trap at UshantChapter
Enigma intelligence, radio listening, radar, and a favorable destroyer formation gave Allied forces the advantage at the Battle of Ushant.
- 1:58:16Headache exploited German radio habitsNotable Point
Enigma and the less famous Headache listening system exposed German movements before Allied destroyers made radar contact at Ushant.
- 2:02:03Line abreast widened the radar interceptionNotable Point
The leading Allied destroyers used radar and a line-abreast formation to widen their front and reduce the danger of one German torpedo spread striking multiple ships.
- 2:14:44Coastal forces keep D-Day sea lanes openChapter
D-Day coastal-force patrols screened the invasion, intercepted enemy surface movements, and maintained a hard nightly barrier near the assault routes.
- 2:18:24QuestionWhy did E-boats not attack the D-Day invasion fleet?AnswerQ&A
German forces were recovering from earlier losses and pressure, and the craft that did approach were often driven off before they could attack effectively.
- 2:22:38Steam Gun Boats changed fit and one survivedChapter
The small Steam Gun Boat class received individual names and changing weapon fits, while Grey Goose survived the war through conversion to a houseboat.
- 2:25:45QuestionWhat was the difference between an E-boat and an R-boat?AnswerQ&A
E-boats normally meant Schnellboote, while R-boat referred to German Räumboote, principally minesweepers that could also perform other tasks and varied widely in size.
- 2:27:57QuestionHow could a Steam Gun Boat protect its boilers in a close-range fight?AnswerQ&A
Its roughly 275-ton displacement allowed some protection around the machinery, unlike the far lighter boats that could carry little armor.
- 2:29:23QuestionCould small-craft hulls stop 20 mm fire, and where was armor fitted?AnswerQ&A
Most small boats had little armor; some British craft protected limited areas, while Steam Gun Boats carried more protection than many lighter counterparts.
- 2:29:53Rapid fire, radar, and enough escorts counter E-boatsChapter
The lasting answer to E-boats was rapid-firing guns, early detection, practiced tactics, and sufficient escort numbers to keep the system operating.
- 2:34:47Small-boat combat resembled an aircraft dogfightNotable Point
Fast turns, fragile hulls, and extremely short firing ranges made coastal actions resemble fighter combat more than battleship gunnery.
- 2:36:27QuestionWas the Pegasus hydrofoil the natural progression of the small PT boat?AnswerQ&A
Only partly. It extended high-speed planing ideas, but it is closer to the Schnellboot tradition because a hydrofoil cannot easily carry the Dog Boat's adaptable heavy weapons load.