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Patreon 7 – How the RN countered E-Boats in the English Channel as proposed by Paul

Study Patreon 7 – How the RN countered E-Boats in the English Channel as proposed by Paul, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 21 Sept 2020, with 54 time notes. Topics include Coastal Forces, E Boats, English Channel.

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Time notes

  1. 8:40
    Why British sources say E-boat

    British accounts often use E-boat for more than the famous Schnellboot, which can hide the wider German small-craft problem.

    Chapter
  2. 11:45
    QuestionDid the Royal Navy consider putting a gas turbine into a motor gun boat?Answer

    Yes. Postwar Vosper designs are the place to look for turbine-powered fast-craft development.

    Q&A
  3. 12:16
    Motor gun boats revive the torpedo-boat destroyer

    Motor gun boats brought the old torpedo-boat-destroyer mission back to the coastal war in a fast, heavily armed form.

    Notable Point
  4. 15:18
    QuestionWere early motor gun boats converted for anti-submarine warfare?Answer

    Some early small craft, especially Fairmile Bs, could be used for anti-submarine work, although the category included more than converted motor gun boats.

    Q&A
  5. 17:37
    Channel geography sets the small-craft problem

    A Channel patrol boat needed enough speed and endurance to cross, operate near the far shore, and return under darkness across a large search area.

    Chapter
  6. 19:23
    QuestionHow did E-boats get into a D-Day practice area despite the expected defenses?Answer

    The defenses were constrained by ships being withdrawn for maintenance, radar and gun upgrades, and final preparation for the invasion, while human mistakes also left gaps.

    Q&A
  7. 21:23
    QuestionTo what extent were sloops, corvettes, and frigates used against torpedo boats?Answer

    Any suitable convoy escort could engage torpedo boats when required, and those larger escort types carried as much useful armament as their duties allowed.

    Q&A
  8. 21:39
    QuestionWhy call the craft E-boats when the Germans called them Schnellboote?Answer

    Because the stream follows the British wartime perspective, in which E-boat was the Allied label commonly applied to the German Channel threat.

    Q&A
  9. 23:23
    QuestionWere motor torpedo boats needed in the Irish Sea because E-boats threatened places such as Pembrokeshire?Answer

    Not to the same degree, because the Irish Sea was generally too far from German bases for the E-boats' practical operating range.

    Q&A
  10. 24:22
    What Schnellboot specifications meant in practice

    A Schnellboot combined high speed and useful range with a relatively modest gun battery, while sea conditions reduced what headline figures meant on operations.

    Notable Point
  11. 26:15
    QuestionWere British motor torpedo boats deployed in the Irish Sea so larger escorts could serve farther out?Answer

    There may have been a few, but the dominant Irish Sea requirements were anti-submarine and anti-aircraft escort, for which armed trawlers were often adequate.

    Q&A
  12. 26:50
    QuestionWould E-boats have been effective against Tribal-class destroyers?Answer

    No; a Schnellboot caught by a Tribal-class destroyer's much heavier gun battery was in a very unfavorable fight.

    Q&A
  13. 27:26
    QuestionWhat did an E-boat have most reason to fear among aircraft, motor boats, destroyers, and sloops?Answer

    British motor gun boats posed the greatest danger, especially the heavily armed Dog Boats that hunted Schnellboote at very close range.

    Q&A
  14. 29:32
    QuestionDid E-boats always carry four torpedoes?Answer

    They normally carried two ready torpedoes and two reloads, although a special mission could justify leaving the reloads behind to reduce weight.

    Q&A
  15. 29:57
    QuestionDid the British prefer steel while the Americans relied more heavily on timber for small boats?Answer

    No simple national split applies here. Most of the small boats under discussion were built from carefully planed wood.

    Q&A
  16. 30:14
    QuestionCould fast torpedo boats carry mines instead of torpedoes?Answer

    Yes; fittings allowed boats to carry mines on either side in place of torpedoes when the mission called for minelaying.

    Q&A
  17. 30:31
    QuestionWhat is the modern equivalent of an E-boat?Answer

    There is no exact match. A modern German candidate is far larger, while Iranian fast attack craft approach the role without fully reproducing it.

    Q&A
  18. 31:49
    Darkness reduced the value of air cover

    Small-boat operations usually took place at night, while uneven RAF and Royal Navy coordination limited how reliably air power could solve the surface threat.

    Notable Point
  19. 32:37
    QuestionDid actions involving about fifty German small craft represent a normal concentration of the available force?Answer

    No. That scale represents a major-operation concentration, with perhaps eighteen to twenty-four craft actually reaching the target area rather than fifty or sixty fighting as one routine attack.

    Q&A
  20. 34:47
    Why the fall of France changed the problem

    Britain had begun small-craft preparations before the war, but the fall of Norway and France vastly increased the coast and convoy network that required defense.

    Chapter
  21. 38:07
    QuestionHow would wartime small combatants compare with modern Royal Navy patrol boats?Answer

    Modern patrol boats have far better sensors, but their policing and presence mission is different; armed small craft would supplement rather than replace frigates and destroyers.

    Q&A
  22. 39:32
    A raised Vosper bow improved seakeeping

    Later Vosper boats raised the bow around the torpedo launchers, improving their behavior in rough water and slightly increasing speed.

    Notable Point
  23. 42:01
    Dunkirk turned Ramsay into a coastal-forces advocate

    After taking over a Vosper boat during Dunkirk, Admiral Ramsay became an unusually forceful institutional champion for motor torpedo boats and related craft.

    Notable Point
  24. 44:11
    Fairmile production turns timber into fighting craft

    Fairmile's wooden craft depended on standardized templates, large timber supplies, and a production system able to absorb rapid wartime development.

    Chapter
  25. 48:52
    QuestionWhat advantage did British motor torpedo boats have over American PT boats?Answer

    Neither design was universally superior: British boats were shaped for rough, close-range Channel and North Sea fighting, while American PT boats were optimized mainly for Pacific operations.

    Q&A
  26. 50:27
    Vosper designs for a night in the Channel

    Vosper developed a private-venture boat around high speed, torpedoes, a gun, moderate-sea ability, and a full night crossing to enemy waters.

    Chapter
  27. 57:02
    QuestionWere wartime motor boats sold for civilian use after their naval service?Answer

    Yes; many became ferries, pleasure craft, or houseboats, and the surviving Steam Gun Boat Grey Goose was living a civilian afterlife as a houseboat.

    Q&A
  28. 57:57
    QuestionHas the consolidation of shipyards reduced design choice and creativity?Answer

    Yes. Consolidation encourages more groupthink by reducing the number of independent design organizations.

    Q&A
  29. 1:00:40
    A Fall of France counterfactual centered on command

    French command-and-control problems were judged so deep that the only workable counterfactual required British communications teams at every level.

    Notable Point
  30. 1:01:33
    Coastal convoys keep Britain's war economy moving

    Britain relied on coastal shipping to distribute imported materials between ports when road and rail capacity could not carry the whole wartime load.

    Chapter
  31. 1:06:38
    British railway practice did not make trains universally slow

    Britain's braking practice did not force wartime trains to move very slowly, though coastal shipping remained necessary.

    Notable Point
  32. 1:11:07
    Dog Boats combine firepower with adaptation

    The Fairmile D could carry an exceptional mix of guns, torpedoes, depth charges, mines, and later sensors for a small craft.

    Chapter
  33. 1:20:48
    QuestionDid British small craft experiment with rockets as some tanks and American boats did?Answer

    Yes. The boats were used for many experiments, although this exchange does not identify a specific rocket system or its results.

    Q&A
  34. 1:24:30
    QuestionShould the Royal Navy build a modern Dog Boat for trade protection and Gulf operations?Answer

    The idea is tempting, but such boats would supplement larger warships, and peacetime rules would probably prevent wartime-style crew modifications.

    Q&A
  35. 1:25:04
    QuestionDid Dog Boats receive the 130- and 150-octane fuel used by the RAF in 1944 and 1945?Answer

    Yes. The boats obtained the high-octane fuel.

    Q&A
  36. 1:27:46
    QuestionCould a Dog Boat's hydrophone operator work effectively while the engines were running at full speed?Answer

    Not comfortably or usefully. Engine noise would be severe, especially aboard a boat fitted with Griffon engines.

    Q&A
  37. 1:28:27
    The Channel Dash forces a daylight attack

    The Channel Dash put British motor torpedo boats into a high-risk daylight attack against major German ships, an exceptional mission for normally nocturnal craft.

    Chapter
  38. 1:31:55
    Fairmile B fittings enable rapid role changes

    Built-in deck fittings allowed Fairmile B motor launches to be reconfigured quickly for many small-craft missions.

    Notable Point
  39. 1:34:10
    QuestionWould a German capital ship at St Nazaire have made the British raid less expected rather than more difficult?Answer

    No. A major warship attracts attack and therefore also attracts extra attention and defensive preparation.

    Q&A
  40. 1:34:53
    Small craft at the St Nazaire raid

    Operation Chariot demonstrates how Fairmiles and motor torpedo boats supported a combined raid to deny St Nazaire's great dry dock to German capital ships.

    Chapter
  41. 1:42:30
    QuestionHow could a modern Dog Boat be armed and designed?Answer

    A possible design is a fast, modular 250- to 300-ton craft with a medium gun, naval strike missiles, possible surface-to-air weapons, useful range at about 40 knots, and some stealth shaping.

    Q&A
  42. 1:44:48
    A command ship must add information

    Coastal-force command frigates were useful when they supplied capabilities smaller boats lacked, but radar-equipped Dog Boats could possess the better local tactical picture.

    Notable Point
  43. 1:56:25
    Intelligence and radar set the trap at Ushant

    Enigma intelligence, radio listening, radar, and a favorable destroyer formation gave Allied forces the advantage at the Battle of Ushant.

    Chapter
  44. 1:58:16
    Headache exploited German radio habits

    Enigma and the less famous Headache listening system exposed German movements before Allied destroyers made radar contact at Ushant.

    Notable Point
  45. 2:02:03
    Line abreast widened the radar interception

    The leading Allied destroyers used radar and a line-abreast formation to widen their front and reduce the danger of one German torpedo spread striking multiple ships.

    Notable Point
  46. 2:14:44
    Coastal forces keep D-Day sea lanes open

    D-Day coastal-force patrols screened the invasion, intercepted enemy surface movements, and maintained a hard nightly barrier near the assault routes.

    Chapter
  47. 2:18:24
    QuestionWhy did E-boats not attack the D-Day invasion fleet?Answer

    German forces were recovering from earlier losses and pressure, and the craft that did approach were often driven off before they could attack effectively.

    Q&A
  48. 2:22:38
    Steam Gun Boats changed fit and one survived

    The small Steam Gun Boat class received individual names and changing weapon fits, while Grey Goose survived the war through conversion to a houseboat.

    Chapter
  49. 2:25:45
    QuestionWhat was the difference between an E-boat and an R-boat?Answer

    E-boats normally meant Schnellboote, while R-boat referred to German Räumboote, principally minesweepers that could also perform other tasks and varied widely in size.

    Q&A
  50. 2:27:57
    QuestionHow could a Steam Gun Boat protect its boilers in a close-range fight?Answer

    Its roughly 275-ton displacement allowed some protection around the machinery, unlike the far lighter boats that could carry little armor.

    Q&A
  51. 2:29:23
    QuestionCould small-craft hulls stop 20 mm fire, and where was armor fitted?Answer

    Most small boats had little armor; some British craft protected limited areas, while Steam Gun Boats carried more protection than many lighter counterparts.

    Q&A
  52. 2:29:53
    Rapid fire, radar, and enough escorts counter E-boats

    The lasting answer to E-boats was rapid-firing guns, early detection, practiced tactics, and sufficient escort numbers to keep the system operating.

    Chapter
  53. 2:34:47
    Small-boat combat resembled an aircraft dogfight

    Fast turns, fragile hulls, and extremely short firing ranges made coastal actions resemble fighter combat more than battleship gunnery.

    Notable Point
  54. 2:36:27
    QuestionWas the Pegasus hydrofoil the natural progression of the small PT boat?Answer

    Only partly. It extended high-speed planing ideas, but it is closer to the Schnellboot tradition because a hydrofoil cannot easily carry the Dog Boat's adaptable heavy weapons load.

    Q&A