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Minesweepers, Torpedo Boats & Gunboats – the ‘Littleships’ of the big war
Study Minesweepers, Torpedo Boats & Gunboats – the ‘Littleships’ of the big war, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 4 Jun 2020, with 71 time notes. Topics include Coastal Forces, Convoy Escort, Japanese Navy.
Time notes
- 4:11How the London Naval Treaty defined little shipsChapter
Article 8 explains why sub-600-ton combatants escaped limits while larger vessels faced restrictions on guns, torpedoes, and speed.
- 10:35Small boats as massed ambush forcesNotable Point
The tactical case for small attack craft depends on darkness, numbers, and surprise rather than a fair one-on-one engagement.
- 11:37Why the Abdiel class counted as cruisersNotable Point
The Abdiel-class fast minelayers fell into the cruiser category because their displacement, speed, and four-inch armament exceeded treaty exemptions.
- 13:55The Basset class as an economical convoy defenderChapter
A sub-600-ton Basset-class minesweeper paired merchant-convoy speed with a small crew and a hull designed around economical specialist work.
- 14:45Why navies could risk small attack craftNotable Point
Motor torpedo boats could be sent on dangerous missions because losing one did not endanger a capital asset or impose an intolerable replacement cost.
- 16:16The Basset class as a risk-fleet escortNotable Point
The Basset's ASDIC and depth charges made it a poor-value U-boat target that could still destroy or disable a submarine.
- 17:42Motor torpedo boats versus motor gunboatsNotable Point
The distinction between MTB and MGB designs rests mainly on whether torpedoes or a heavier gun battery supplies the craft's principal attack.
- 20:20The Admirable class and the overloaded minesweeper problemChapter
The Admirable class combined minesweeping, gunboat, and anti-submarine equipment in a 625-ton hull with a crew of 104.
- 23:40Elco PT boats, PT-109, and field modificationChapter
PT-109 illustrates the Elco patrol-torpedo boat's production scale, fast hull proportions, torpedo battery, and crowded short-range weapon fit.
- 25:01Why official small-craft range figures misleadNotable Point
Extra drums, tanks, and jerry cans made an attack boat's practical range depend on crew improvisation rather than its published specification.
- 28:19QuestionAre Corbett's Maritime Operations volumes worth reading?AnswerQ&A
Yes; they are good operational histories, though less theoretical than Corbett's better-known strategic writing.
- 30:30QuestionHow did Italian MTB operations and development affect other coastal forces?AnswerQ&A
Italy began the war with poor MTBs, then produced much better craft by adapting Schnellboot ideas; the Royal Navy responded operationally to the improved threat.
- 32:27Leadership balance aboard small attack craftNotable Point
A talented junior commander was balanced by a chief petty officer carrying a decade or more of practical destroyer experience.
- 35:45How fast the Abdiel class could run in serviceNotable Point
A Tribal-class crew reportedly estimated an Abdiel-class minelayer at 48 to 49 knots while it overtook their destroyer running at about 37 knots.
- 36:33QuestionHow long did a PT or MTB take to build compared with a destroyer?AnswerQ&A
Often only weeks for the largely plywood boat, provided engines and a skilled workforce were available.
- 38:15QuestionWhy could Fairmile boats hold their own despite being technically slower than German S-boats?AnswerQ&A
They were often faster after crew modifications than published figures suggest and could perform better when rough seas troubled the more highly optimized Schnellboot.
- 41:00Using depth charges against a pursuing S-boatNotable Point
Radar-assisted Fairmiles could maneuver ahead of a fast S-boat, lay depth charges across its path, and engage it while the explosions disrupted the crew.
- 45:07Halcyons and Bangors combined sweeping with escort workNotable Point
British Halcyon-class and Canadian Bangor-class vessels often served as escorts, with Arctic ships protecting the final approach against newly laid mines and submarines.
- 45:41Vosper boats versus the heavier SchnellbootNotable Point
A 45-ton Vosper could deliver comparable ready weapons at high speed, allowing two boats for roughly the displacement of one 100-ton Schnellboot.
- 48:22Italian MTB performance across the world warsNotable Point
First World War successes gave way to engine-troubled Italian motor torpedo boats at the start of the Second World War.
- 49:17How changing MTB numbers obscured British strengthNotable Point
Frequent changes to Royal Navy motor-torpedo-boat numbers made the force appear more numerous and complicated identification even for allies and British personnel.
- 50:37QuestionHow did minesweepers actually clear or detonate mines?AnswerQ&A
They towed paravanes and other sweeping gear to snag or channel mines, then detonated mines that did not explode during the sweep.
- 51:49QuestionDid clearing channels before amphibious landings explain the Admirable class's unusually heavy armament?AnswerQ&A
Possibly, but a sweeper should avoid the firefight and rely on supporting ships; adding every weapon burdens the specialist vessel and its crew.
- 54:35QuestionWhy could a smaller Vosper handle rough Channel seas better than a larger German E-boat?AnswerQ&A
Its hull and steering characteristics could follow the sea more naturally, while the Schnellboot relied more heavily on power and could lose efficiency when waves met it badly.
- 56:49Destroyer conversions shaped American minesweeper expectationsNotable Point
Converting old flush-deck destroyers into fast minesweepers encouraged the US Navy to expect destroyer-like armament and versatility from later purpose-built sweepers.
- 57:26Assault minesweeping followed every major landingNotable Point
Sweeping ahead of landings continued from North Africa through Normandy and southern France, while a Dunkirk experiment showed the danger of towing paravanes from fast MTBs.
- 59:58A gunboat screen for Singapore's crossingsNotable Point
Locally based gunboats and torpedo boats could have made the Japanese water crossings into Singapore much more difficult.
- 1:01:53QuestionCould a British amphibious ship carry modern motor-gunboat equivalents to escort its landing craft?AnswerQ&A
Yes; sacrificing one LCU position could make room for two, perhaps three, armed CB90 escorts.
- 1:06:16QuestionWhy does the Royal Navy no longer operate heavily armed patrol boats?AnswerQ&A
Its patrol ships are designed mainly for fishery and constabulary duties, while small armed craft could be built relatively quickly from Britain's existing boatbuilding base if a war required them.
- 1:11:20QuestionHow effective were minesweepers based at Milford Haven at protecting shipping?AnswerQ&A
They were effective when defenders knew where mines had been laid, but unobserved submarine or aircraft minelaying could leave the danger undiscovered until a patrol or ship encountered it.
- 1:13:12Why small craft become locally specializedNotable Point
Hull, torpedo-launch method, crew practice, enemy, and sea state made attack boats more specialized to local waters than large ships.
- 1:14:59QuestionWhy was the 1930s Japanese Navy so interested in motherships and midget submarines for a decisive battle?AnswerQ&A
Motherships could multiply small striking units, but the Pearl Harbor midget-submarine plan added excessive complexity; long-range boats near US ports would have offered more leverage.
- 1:16:47QuestionWhen did the Royal Navy stop operating motor torpedo boats and motor gunboats?AnswerQ&A
The last operational boats appear to have served into the late 1950s, while experimental designs continued into the 1960s to preserve mobilization options.
- 1:18:02QuestionAre modern special-forces raiding craft the equivalent of Second World War MTBs and E-boats?AnswerQ&A
Only partly; their size and speed are similar, but an armed CB90-type combat boat is closer in mission and weapons to the wartime attack craft.
- 1:18:32QuestionHow could a modern RNLI-derived Royal Navy attack boat be armed?AnswerQ&A
With 40 mm guns, Naval Strike Missiles, lightweight anti-submarine torpedoes, and a small rotary-wing uncrewed aircraft, relying on wider forces for long-range sensing.
- 1:19:51Michael Clapp holds fire under pressureNotable Point
Commanding a Ton-class minesweeper, Michael Clapp maintained course and fire discipline while aircraft and boats conducted threatening mock attacks.
- 1:22:41QuestionWhy did the United States build destroyer escorts while Britain built frigates for similar work?AnswerQ&A
US capacity allowed full warship-standard escorts, while British frigates used somewhat reduced standards so civilian yards could expand production rapidly.
- 1:25:32QuestionCould a CB90 be converted into an uncrewed vehicle?AnswerQ&A
Yes; it could serve as a USV, an uncrewed surface vessel, rather than a UAV or underwater vehicle.
- 1:27:39QuestionHow difficult was it to find and counter mines laid in the Irish Sea?AnswerQ&A
Submarine minelaying was hazardous in the heavily patrolled approaches, and aircraft-laid fields could often be localized using radar observations and Bletchley Park intelligence.
- 1:30:09QuestionCan old naval mines still wash ashore and explode today?AnswerQ&A
Yes; mines can survive for many decades in favorable salt-water conditions, and newly floating examples are particularly difficult to render safe.
- 1:31:16QuestionWere Sunderland flying boats used to help find naval mines?AnswerQ&A
Yes; Sunderland and Swordfish crews watched for mines and reported suspicious sightings or radar contacts to minesweepers.
- 1:32:23QuestionWhat were the first Royal Navy minesweepers before purpose-built classes?AnswerQ&A
They were largely converted trawlers whose towing skills suited sweeping gear; exposed mines could then be destroyed by gunfire.
- 1:35:12QuestionWhat happens if a whale strikes a naval mine?AnswerQ&A
A contact mine may explode, but a magnetic mine should not because a whale does not produce a ship-sized magnetic disturbance.
- 1:36:01The unresolved danger of SS Richard MontgomeryNotable Point
The ammunition wreck in the Thames Estuary remains dangerous because a mass detonation could combine a major blast with destructive water movement.
- 1:38:19QuestionWhat was the Royal Navy's first purpose-built minesweeper class?AnswerQ&A
The interwar Halcyon class is the stronger answer, after an earlier reliance on converted trawlers.
- 1:39:40Depth charging fish shoals after Operation TorchNotable Point
Tribal-class destroyers used depth charges to disperse fish shoals that might conceal submarines approaching North African ports.
- 1:41:21How Q-ships changed submarine risk calculationsNotable Point
Armed decoy merchant ships made submarine commanders wary of apparently isolated targets and uncertain about how many weapons a convoy concealed.
- 1:42:08QuestionWhich book is a good guide to MTBs and other coastal craft?AnswerQ&A
Leonard C. Reynolds's Boats at War, for its drawings, practical detail, and accounts assembled from people who served in the boats.
- 1:43:55How early mine damage may have helped HMS Belfast surviveNotable Point
HMS Belfast's early magnetic-mine damage led to a repair period that may have kept the cruiser away from some of the war's most dangerous early operations.
- 1:45:17How small crews altered attack-boat performanceNotable Point
Tight-knit crews collectively tuned engines, fuel, and equipment, making operational speed and range diverge from trial figures.
- 1:47:54QuestionHow badly would a Halifax- or Montgomery-scale explosion at Kiel have hurt Germany's ability to wage war?AnswerQ&A
It could have crippled a concentrated cluster of submarine, ship, and possibly armored-vehicle production, making Kiel a major strategic target.
- 1:51:40Why the Admirable class needed so many sailorsNotable Point
A minesweeper facing mines, aircraft, surface craft, and submarines needed enough sailors for watches, weapons, damage control, ASDIC, and sustained operations.
- 1:54:11QuestionHow did the treaty distinguish unrestricted small craft from larger torpedo boats?AnswerQ&A
Anything under 600 tons escaped the key limits; the larger, fast, torpedo-armed Spica class did not, despite attempts to present it as smaller.
- 2:02:10QuestionDid Japan try to send an air attack against the Panama Canal?AnswerQ&A
Japan considered the idea but did not carry it out because the available aircraft would face a heavily defended target zone.
- 2:03:44QuestionHow did Higgins PT boats compare with the better-known Elco boats?AnswerQ&A
Elco boats were much more numerous, but Higgins boats deserved their reputation for being tougher and more reliable.
- 2:04:25A long-range submarine alternative to the I-400 classNotable Point
The resources devoted to aircraft-carrying I-400 submarines could have produced more useful long-range attack boats for operations off the United States.
- 2:06:02QuestionHow did navies and air forces approach air-sea rescue during the Second World War?AnswerQ&A
The RAF used fast rescue launches as well as seaplanes that could land and collect crews; helicopters later replaced much of the seaplane role.
- 2:06:49QuestionCould a Des Moines-class cruiser sustain twelve eight-inch rounds per gun per minute?AnswerQ&A
For a while, yes, but sustained fire tended to fall toward about ten rounds per minute and depended heavily on maintenance.
- 2:10:08QuestionWhat was the largest practical gun that could be mounted on a Second World War destroyer hull?AnswerQ&A
Although very large guns might fit, practical armament stayed around 4.5 to 5 inches because rate of fire mattered more at destroyer fighting ranges.
- 2:11:21QuestionWhat different small ships should the Royal Navy have built in the 1930s?AnswerQ&A
More trawlers and more treaty-compliant ocean-going sloops armed with four-inch guns and depth charges, accepting speeds no greater than 20 knots.
- 2:13:56QuestionShould Japan have deployed Yamato more aggressively early in the Pacific War?AnswerQ&A
Not by itself; Yamato mattered only within a larger attempt to seize Hawaii and force the United States to fight on Japanese terms.
- 2:20:03How holding Hawaii would stretch American logisticsNotable Point
A Japanese occupation of Hawaii would demand more merchant shipping but push American submarine, carrier, and supply operations much farther east.
- 2:23:08QuestionDid Japan have an effective answer to the American submarine campaign?AnswerQ&A
No; it lacked sufficient escorts and should have used treaty opportunities to build many more sloops before the war.
- 2:25:55Why unrestricted submarine warfare complicated the Dönitz caseNotable Point
The unrestricted-submarine-warfare charge against Karl Dönitz was weakened when Admiral Nimitz confirmed that US submarines had followed comparable practices in the Pacific.
- 2:26:24QuestionCould Japan have taken Midway and Hawaii at the start of the Pacific War?AnswerQ&A
It was possible with army-navy cooperation, enough landing ships, and a simultaneous surprise assault, though long-term retention remained a much harder problem.
- 2:27:09Japan understood US submarines but overestimated its defensesNotable Point
Japanese planners did not dismiss American submarine skill, but they trusted anti-submarine capabilities derived from First World War experience that had since atrophied.
- 2:27:38QuestionDid naval treaties have a positive effect on ship design?AnswerQ&A
Yes; efforts to work around the limits generated useful and innovative designs.
- 2:28:09QuestionDid Japan need purpose-built transport arrangements for Yamato's gun turrets?AnswerQ&A
Yes; the enormous components required specialized movement, illustrating that factories and shipyards only work together when transport infrastructure connects them.
- 2:28:45QuestionWhy were River-class frigates favored over Castle-class corvettes?AnswerQ&A
Rivers were larger, tougher, and more standardized escorts, giving them more operational margin than the smaller Castle-class corvettes.
- 2:29:20Why British gunmakers and shipyards grew togetherNotable Point
British armament works and shipyards benefited from long-established industrial clusters in which one supplier attracted another and transport links already served naval construction.
- 2:30:35Why troop movements could hide inside Japan's existing warsNotable Point
Large Japanese troop movements around China and Manchuria were less conspicuous than carrier movements, while American attention remained fixed on the location of major warships.