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Dreadnoughts that Almost Were of the WWI Era...
Study Dreadnoughts that Almost Were of the WWI Era..., a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 2 Oct 2021, with 92 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Battlecruisers, Dreadnoughts.
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- 0:52How an unbuilt capital ship changes the questionChapter
The opening asks how naval history changes when ships already in production are completed rather than cancelled.
- 1:31QuestionWhat ships might navies build to protect distant interests if more powers operated battlecruisers?AnswerQ&A
They might use battlecruisers or revive heavy armoured cruisers that were dangerous enough to deter a battlecruiser without costing as much as a battleship.
- 2:42QuestionHow many 5-inch Mark 12 guns, 40 mm Bofors, and 20 mm Oerlikons could an Iowa-class battleship carry?AnswerQ&A
A great many, but ammunition storage would set the practical limit.
- 4:15QuestionWould a missile-tracking ship make a good command vessel?AnswerQ&A
Yes, if it has sufficient communications and data systems.
- 5:52QuestionWhich major powers might Britain have sold battleships to before the First World War?AnswerQ&A
France and possibly Austria-Hungary were plausible customers, while Germany became unacceptable once its Navy Laws made the anti-British purpose of its fleet clear.
- 7:25Borodino class: speed and refit potentialChapter
The Borodino-class battlecruisers are assessed as potentially valuable Soviet fast capital ships if their boilers and armament were modernized.
- 9:02Italian design help for a Russian Pacific shipNotable Point
Italian design influence did not make the Borodinos Mediterranean ships; it gave Russia expertise for a Far Eastern fleet requirement.
- 10:47Borodinos could pull the Soviet Union into treaty talksNotable Point
Operational Russian battlecruisers would be harder for treaty negotiators and Japan to ignore than the slow Gangut class.
- 12:55Borodino's hull form reveals its speed requirementNotable Point
The long, fine Borodino hull contrasts with the blockier Gangut form and makes the battlecruiser's higher-speed purpose visible.
- 14:52QuestionCan a ship keep its original turbines and screws when small-tube boilers raise horsepower?AnswerQ&A
Possibly, if the original turbines were robust enough for the higher pressure; lightly built machinery would probably also need replacement.
- 15:27QuestionWhat would probably replace Hood's five quadruple Vickers .50-calibre machine-gun mounts?AnswerQ&A
The British would probably use 20 mm Oerlikons or 40 mm pom-poms.
- 17:07Borodino range for Pacific operationsNotable Point
A range roughly half again that of the Gangut class supports the idea that the Borodinos were intended for open Pacific operations and raiding.
- 17:26QuestionHow do strategic and tactical considerations differ in battleship design?AnswerQ&A
Strategic choices include range and main guns; tactical choices include manoeuvrability and secondary armament.
- 19:18Mackensen and Germany's shrinking marginChapter
The Mackensen class illustrates how German battlecruiser ambitions ran into British speed, heavier guns, and industrial constraints.
- 20:25QuestionHow would Britain and the United States counter the Tosa and Amagi classes?AnswerQ&A
The American answer centered on the Lexington battlecruisers and 1920 South Dakota battleships, with British plans developing in parallel.
- 21:54QuestionHow much light anti-aircraft armament could a capital ship receive in a 1942 refit?AnswerQ&A
Potentially several heavy multiple mounts and many 20 mm guns, but ammunition storage and the extra crew would set the practical limit.
- 23:06QuestionWould Japan accept the Washington Naval Treaty while completed Borodinos remained outside its limits?AnswerQ&A
Possibly, because the economic case for a building holiday remained strong, but Japan would want the Soviet ships covered by the negotiations.
- 26:08QuestionWhy did ships such as Borodino and German battlecruisers use an angled forefoot?AnswerQ&A
It was an experimental hull-form feature intended to improve stability and speed.
- 26:42A treaty begins before the conference opensNotable Point
The formal signing date conceals earlier work on terms of reference, conference structure, political support, and draft agreements.
- 27:54Why Germany needed fast battleshipsNotable Point
A fast battleship better suited Germany's geography because its fleet first had to fight through British control before it could operate globally.
- 31:02Salamis and Greece's interrupted battleship programmeChapter
The uncompleted Greek battleship Salamis shows how foreign construction, imported guns, and regional rivalry could reshape the eastern Mediterranean.
- 31:55QuestionHow would completed Mackensen-class ships transferred to Greece affect a later war?AnswerQ&A
They would add two useful fast capital ships to the Allied side and could serve in either the Mediterranean or North Sea.
- 33:13QuestionWhat if British Dominions signed the Washington treaty separately and retained their own capital ships?AnswerQ&A
Their fleets would complicate treaty ratios and might force the United States to accept a larger Commonwealth capital-ship total.
- 37:01Italian speed could have changed Nelson's designNotable Point
Completed Francesco Caracciolo-class ships might have made a slow Nelson class politically and strategically harder to accept.
- 38:21QuestionWhat is the space between the forward and aft turret magazines used for?AnswerQ&A
It separates the magazines from hot machinery so ammunition temperatures remain safer and more consistent.
- 39:12Public subscriptions make ships politically difficult to sacrificeNotable Point
Publicly funded warships acquire political meaning that can complicate treaties, scrapping decisions, and later naval budgets.
- 39:12QuestionHow could the Ottoman Empire pay for battleships while its finances were so weak?AnswerQ&A
The ships were funded through national subscription, with the public contributing toward their purchase.
- 40:12QuestionCould Germany have built a faster Deutschland class without treaty pressure?AnswerQ&A
Possibly, but German maritime infrastructure was also a major constraint, so removing the treaty would not guarantee a much faster ship.
- 41:26QuestionAre fast battleships a better fit than battlecruisers for most countries?AnswerQ&A
Yes, unless a navy is large and wealthy enough to specialize; once battleships are fast, a distinct battlecruiser needs an even greater speed advantage.
- 42:35Capital ships could build Canadian refit capacityNotable Point
Maintaining Canadian battleships could create domestic refit capacity that also served Royal Navy ships and strengthened Commonwealth ties.
- 44:17QuestionIs it still practical to buy a warship hull and its weapons from different countries?AnswerQ&A
Yes; modern programmes likewise combine hull construction, propulsion, weapons, and combat systems from different national suppliers.
- 45:18Riachuelo carried British design ideas to BrazilNotable Point
Brazil's unbuilt Riachuelo proposal adapted Queen Elizabeth and Revenge design ideas around eight 15-inch guns.
- 46:11QuestionHow would you specialize battleships for different eras?AnswerQ&A
For the First World War, optimize for the battle line; for the Second World War, design around the wider fleet role.
- 48:08QuestionWould Deutschland-class ships work better if they operated together?AnswerQ&A
They might win a local action such as the River Plate, but concentrating them would provoke a stronger British capital-ship response.
- 49:35QuestionHow effective might the Japanese 40 mm Type 5 have been on Yamato?AnswerQ&A
It would probably be far better than the 25 mm Type 96 battery it replaced.
- 51:25QuestionWhy did Japan object so strongly to sacrificing Mutsu during naval treaty negotiations?AnswerQ&A
Because public donations had helped pay for the ship, making its surrender politically difficult.
- 51:44QuestionCould Indian princely states have helped pay for a British Empire capital ship?AnswerQ&A
Yes, especially if the ship were tied to establishing an Indian navy; such a vessel would likely become a powerful national symbol.
- 53:57QuestionWould Canadian Queen Elizabeth-class battleships be sent to the Pacific before war with Japan?AnswerQ&A
Probably not initially; they would likely cover the Atlantic, freeing British ships for the Far East, with possible later service in the Mediterranean or Force H.
- 54:54QuestionWas 'We want eight and we won't wait' a real British naval campaign?AnswerQ&A
Yes; it was a real slogan promoted in an era when the Navy League was a powerful pressure group.
- 57:07An 18-inch Argencourt built from Queen Elizabeth logicChapter
A conservative 18-inch-gun Argencourt is derived from the Queen Elizabeth design rather than an unconstrained super-battleship.
- 58:18QuestionWould Canada or Australia develop aircraft carriers if they retained their capital ships?AnswerQ&A
Possibly; a smaller Unicorn-like carrier or a transferred Courageous-class conversion is more plausible than an Ark Royal-sized ship.
- 58:44QuestionWould the British government permit an Indian navy to possess a battleship?AnswerQ&A
Probably, because a single ship posed little threat and could be useful as a permanent Far Eastern capital unit.
- 59:04QuestionWhat anti-aircraft weapons should a Yamato refit emphasize?AnswerQ&A
Fit as many 100 mm and 40 mm guns as the ship and available supply allow.
- 59:36QuestionHow might additional Canadian Queen Elizabeth-class ships affect the Battle of Cape Matapan?AnswerQ&A
They could free another fast capital ship for the Mediterranean and give the fleet more flexible, balanced divisions.
- 1:00:56QuestionCould HMAS Australia remain useful into the Second World War?AnswerQ&A
Yes; a major interwar refit and fire-control radar could make it a valuable regional capital unit, even though it would not become a first-rate modern battleship.
- 1:08:39QuestionWould the United States still send fast battleships to Britain if Canada operated Queen Elizabeth-class ships?AnswerQ&A
Probably, but in smaller numbers because the Canadian squadron would already relieve part of Britain's worldwide capital-ship burden.
- 1:10:36Why an 18-inch ship could escalate the capital-ship raceNotable Point
A British 18-inch Argencourt could make later 18-inch Admirals and a higher treaty gun limit more plausible.
- 1:13:53QuestionWould the proposed Argencourt's 18-inch guns be 40- or 45-calibre weapons?AnswerQ&A
The reconstruction uses 18-inch/45 guns, interpreting Furious's shorter weapons as cut-down versions, but the original Argencourt connection remains uncertain.
- 1:17:14QuestionHow would an 18-inch Agincourt compare with the Japanese Kii class?AnswerQ&A
Kii would initially be faster, but British 18-inch service would probably push Japan to redesign its ships with heavier guns.
- 1:19:22QuestionWhy were 18-inch-gun Admiral-class proposals rejected?AnswerQ&A
Wartime Britain needed rapid output from its established 15-inch production line; starting an 18-inch line imposed delay and industrial risk.
- 1:21:02QuestionWhy might Britain use a relatively light shell in an 18-inch gun?AnswerQ&A
A lighter shell is easier to handle quickly, potentially raising the rate of fire enough to help a six-gun ship compete with eight-gun opponents.
- 1:24:13Why 20-inch naval guns run into hard limitsNotable Point
Gun calibre is constrained by barrel length, weight distribution, metallurgy, and the propellant needed to drive a shell through the barrel.
- 1:26:06QuestionHow large must a class be to keep five ships continuously at sea?AnswerQ&A
About twelve can usually sustain five deployed ships, while fifteen gives a more dependable margin for maintenance and disruption.
- 1:26:53QuestionWould the Colorados remain 21-knot ships if Canada operated faster Queen Elizabeth-class battleships?AnswerQ&A
Congress might approve more powerful engines, but American infrastructure and dimensional limits would still constrain the result.
- 1:28:05QuestionWould Britain keep twin turrets on later Agincourt-type ships or move to triples?AnswerQ&A
It might adopt triples if the three-turret arrangement proved attractive in service and design work.
- 1:28:30QuestionWhat if the High Seas Fleet had seven Bayern-class battleships?AnswerQ&A
Britain would probably order many more capital ships and might accelerate 18-inch-gun construction, while German infrastructure remained the limiting factor.
- 1:29:08QuestionWould six guns meet the minimum needed for accurate naval gunnery?AnswerQ&A
Yes, six can support effective salvo spotting, though eight or nine guns would still be preferred.
- 1:29:25QuestionHow difficult was it to crew these capital ships, and did the Royal Navy use conscription?AnswerQ&A
The Royal Navy relied on volunteers and was obtaining enough personnel without conscription.
- 1:30:12QuestionWould Incomparable's proposed extreme range be a benefit or a curse?AnswerQ&A
It would be a burden in the First World War's concentrated theater but a major benefit for the global operations of the Second World War.
- 1:30:32QuestionWould the G3 battlecruisers carry 18-inch guns if Britain already used that calibre?AnswerQ&A
Probably; an established 18-inch weapon and production base would make retaining it in the G3 design much more likely.
- 1:31:03A fast Argencourt in Jellicoe's Grand FleetNotable Point
A 28-knot, 18-inch-gun Argencourt might have been especially valuable as Jellicoe's flagship and an independent scouting asset.
- 1:32:26QuestionWhy might the United States keep the 16-inch gun instead of adopting an 18-inch weapon?AnswerQ&A
Established infrastructure could produce far more 16-inch guns, trading a little individual shell power for faster and larger fleet output.
- 1:34:35QuestionWhat was Britain planning for the 1915 capital-ship programme?AnswerQ&A
Several improved Queen Elizabeth and alternative-turret concepts were being considered, possibly awaiting experience from Argencourt before final selection.
- 1:36:03QuestionWhat if the Queen Elizabeth and R classes had received small-tube boilers?AnswerQ&A
They could have gained useful speed, giving the Royal Navy a fleet-level advantage that other powers would need to answer.
- 1:37:13QuestionHow strong might Argencourt's underwater protection have been?AnswerQ&A
A substantial contemporary torpedo-defense system is plausible, represented conservatively by the middle rather than maximum protection option.
- 1:38:01QuestionWhat was the best battleship of the First World War?AnswerQ&A
Among ships that actually served during the war, the Queen Elizabeth class has the strongest claim.
- 1:41:18QuestionHow would Incomparable affect the Washington Naval Treaty?AnswerQ&A
It would provoke intense bargaining because Britain would resist scrapping such a powerful ship, but its existence already assumes an earlier 18-inch arms race.
- 1:43:00QuestionCould faster British battleships justify Japanese completion of Tosa and Amagi under a treaty?AnswerQ&A
Probably not, because the negotiations were framed around battle-fleet firepower rather than speed.
- 1:44:41QuestionHow do squadrons, divisions, and flotillas relate to one another?AnswerQ&A
Their sizes depend on each navy's organization and wartime realities; they are functional groupings rather than fixed universal numbers.
- 1:45:23Four Admirals and a homogeneous 15-inch battle lineChapter
Completing all four Admiral-class ships would have added a powerful, common-calibre fast wing to the Royal Navy's battle fleet.
- 1:49:34QuestionHow would earlier successful heavy-gun development affect HMS Dreadnought?AnswerQ&A
Dreadnought might begin with much heavier guns, immediately forcing rival all-big-gun ships to standardize at the new calibre.
- 1:50:37QuestionWhich 16-inch battleships were strongest in the 1920s: Nelson and Rodney or Nagato?AnswerQ&A
Probably Nelson and Rodney in the 1920s, though later 16-inch ships change the comparison by the Second World War.
- 1:51:19QuestionShould Britain have upgraded its 15-inch guns from 42 to 45 calibres during interwar refits?AnswerQ&A
It was technically interesting and probably possible, but treaty rules might have limited such a main-armament change.
- 1:51:46QuestionWas the Admiral class based on HMS Incomparable?AnswerQ&A
Probably not; the Admirals more likely extended earlier British work, while Incomparable was a separate and more extreme development.
- 1:52:22QuestionWould the Revenge class be built historically if an 18-inch Agincourt already existed?AnswerQ&A
Some ships might instead copy Agincourt's 18-inch armament, potentially giving the Royal Navy three such capital ships.
- 1:54:08QuestionWould four Admiral-class or four G3 battlecruisers be the better force?AnswerQ&A
Four G3s, because they are the more sensible overall design despite their poor gun arcs.
- 1:56:21QuestionWas the Argo clock better than contemporary Dreyer fire-control equipment?AnswerQ&A
Not automatically; both were difficult systems, and results depended heavily on the training and experience of their crews.
- 1:57:01QuestionWhat is the objection to the G3 battlecruiser's unusual turret position?AnswerQ&A
Its gun arcs are too compromised: it contributes poorly forward and cannot effectively cover the stern.
- 1:59:07QuestionWho wins between a Lexington-class and an Amagi-class battlecruiser?AnswerQ&A
Lexington has the edge if it controls the battle's pace and range; Amagi is favored if it can close.
- 1:59:55QuestionHow might Lexington-class battlecruisers have fared in the Second World War?AnswerQ&A
They could have been useful fast carrier escorts after modernization, but their relatively light armour would remain a vulnerability.
- 2:00:40QuestionWhy did navies continue building slow battleships after fast capital ships proved useful?AnswerQ&A
Because speed was extremely expensive, and treasuries often prioritized the immediate construction bill over long-term operational flexibility.
- 2:01:18QuestionCould the G3's awkward turret be moved before completion?AnswerQ&A
Only with a major redesign; a Nelson-like layout was possible in theory, but the change would disrupt the ship's entire internal arrangement and balance.
- 2:03:23Carrier conversions could have reshaped the fast wingNotable Point
Converting Admiral-class hulls into carriers could have produced a faster Royal Navy force built around carriers, Hood, Renown, and Repulse.
- 2:05:29QuestionWhy did the United States give Lexington light armour even after Jutland?AnswerQ&A
Because the design prioritized exceptional speed, and the machinery and hull needed to achieve it consumed the weight available for protection.
- 2:06:17QuestionDo larger naval guns become harder to service?AnswerQ&A
They need more robust handling and elevation machinery because their barrels and mounts are far heavier, even if the servicing task is conceptually similar.
- 2:07:44QuestionWhat should the Republic of China have built for its navy in the 1930s, and where might it obtain submarines?AnswerQ&A
It should have prioritized submarines, probably bought from Britain, though American, French, or Dutch options were conceivable.
- 2:08:04QuestionWhat dimensional limits constrained British capital-ship designers?AnswerQ&A
A Hood-sized ship was close to the maximum that existing yards and docks could support without costly infrastructure changes.
- 2:09:53QuestionWhat secondary battery would the proposed Argencourt carry?AnswerQ&A
The initial concept uses five triple 4-inch mounts; a later refit could replace them with twin 5-inch mounts for a more efficient battery.
- 2:10:58QuestionWould the absence of naval treaties delay aircraft-carrier development?AnswerQ&A
Probably not; unrestricted competition could prompt navies to build large carriers earlier in response to one another.
- 2:14:21QuestionWas Repulse's 1936 refit a compromise?AnswerQ&A
Yes; it was a quick availability refit so Repulse could cover duties while Renown was rebuilt and Hood awaited her turn.
- 2:16:13QuestionWas HMS Vanguard built exactly as the Royal Navy wanted?AnswerQ&A
No; she was a wartime compromise shaped by what could be completed with the time and resources available.
- 2:18:44A 14-inch, 23-knot Dreadnought changes the raceNotable Point
A faster Dreadnought armed with 14-inch guns would make every contemporary 12-inch response obsolete before it entered service.