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Shortcomings with the designs of 'Early' Aircraft Carriers: Patreon 65

Study Shortcomings with the designs of 'Early' Aircraft Carriers: Patreon 65, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 27 Oct 2022, with 51 time notes. Topics include Aircraft Carriers, Carrier Design, French Navy.

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Time notes

  1. 10:38
    How to judge an experimental aircraft carrier

    Judging carriers commissioned by 1940 requires distinguishing unavoidable experimentation from choices that ignored available evidence or basic operational logic.

    Chapter
  2. 16:42
    Argus and Langley as practical pioneer carriers

    Argus and Langley show both the value and limits of first-generation flush-deck conversions, including bridge placement, training value, and room for later supporting roles.

    Chapter
  3. 24:45
    Hōshō and Hermes establish purpose-built carrier choices

    The first purpose-built carriers expose the importance of tall funnels, clean airflow, island structures, and designing a small carrier around a coherent cruiser-support mission.

    Chapter
  4. 26:49
    QuestionWhy would HMS Tiger make a better gunnery training ship than Iron Duke?Answer

    Her battlecruiser hull provided more space for modifications.

    Q&A
  5. 31:15
    QuestionHow did Hōshō avoid being sunk during the war?Answer

    She remained mainly in Japanese home waters as a training carrier and took only a secondary role at Midway.

    Q&A
  6. 31:41
    QuestionWould it make sense to use a liner as the basis for an aircraft carrier?Answer

    It can make sense for an experimental conversion, though a purpose-built carrier is preferable once requirements are known.

    Q&A
  7. 35:20
    Furious and the dead end of a split flight deck

    Furious's lower flying-off deck anticipated simultaneous launch and recovery but sacrificed hangar and flight-deck capacity as aircraft rapidly grew beyond its dimensions.

    Chapter
  8. 35:31
    How early carriers launched and kept aircraft on deck

    Early carriers relied on wind over the deck for takeoff, while lengthwise wires kept light aircraft from sliding sideways rather than braking them after landing.

    Notable Point
  9. 39:36
    QuestionIf HMS Eagle had survived 1942, what could she have done later in the war?Answer

    She could have served as a command carrier for escort-carrier groups and released Unicorn for other support operations.

    Q&A
  10. 44:28
    Béarn's three incompatible aircraft lifts

    Béarn combined three differently sized lifts, clamshell flight-deck covers, and cycle times of roughly three to five minutes into an operational bottleneck.

    Chapter
  11. 54:00
    Béarn's suspended-rail aircraft handling system

    Overhead rails moved aircraft between Béarn's lower workshops, upper hangar, and lifts, but the suspended loads became dangerous as the ship rolled.

    Chapter
  12. 1:01:27
    QuestionWhat was the height of Béarn's aircraft hangars?Answer

    The upper hangar was about 6.5 meters high, reduced to about 5 meters forward where aviation accommodation intruded.

    Q&A
  13. 1:03:05
    QuestionWas there a locomotive to move aircraft along Béarn's hangar rails?Answer

    No. The aircraft were moved along the rails by hand.

    Q&A
  14. 1:03:11
    QuestionHow many different weapon and ammunition systems did Béarn have to support?Answer

    Aircraft weapons were joined by five shipboard families: 6.1-inch, three-inch, 37-millimeter, and machine-gun ammunition plus torpedoes.

    Q&A
  15. 1:04:09
    Béarn traded flight speed for mixed propulsion

    Béarn's combination of turbines and triple-expansion engines delivered range but limited the carrier to about 21.5 knots when deck wind was vital to early aircraft.

    Chapter
  16. 1:18:16
    QuestionDid treating Béarn as an experimental carrier benefit France in the long term?Answer

    Only in theory; the designation helped only if France acted on the lessons and replaced her.

    Q&A
  17. 1:18:45
    QuestionGiven Germany's geography and enemies, did a fleet-carrier force make strategic sense?Answer

    Not as a centerpiece; Germany was better served by long-range surface raiders, perhaps with limited carrier support to reach the open ocean.

    Q&A
  18. 1:20:25
    Courageous and Glorious retained a doctrinally obsolete deck

    The lower fighter flying-off deck consumed valuable space even as Royal Navy doctrine shifted toward continuous patrols and sustained operations rather than last-minute visual interception.

    Chapter
  19. 1:26:03
    QuestionWas an early aircraft carrier too expensive to use as a force multiplier?Answer

    Not relative to a battleship; carriers and contemporary aircraft were comparatively affordable ways to add reach and reconnaissance.

    Q&A
  20. 1:26:21
    QuestionWere Courageous and Glorious the only carrier conversions considered by the Royal Navy?Answer

    Probably not; circumstantial archival evidence suggests Admiral-class conversions were also examined, but no definitive proof has been found.

    Q&A
  21. 1:29:49
    Why losing Courageous and Glorious mattered beyond two hulls

    The early losses removed both operational flight decks and experienced carrier personnel who could have strengthened British operations in the Atlantic and Mediterranean.

    Notable Point
  22. 1:34:11
    QuestionWere the lower flying-off decks on Courageous and Glorious equivalent to US hangar-deck catapults?Answer

    Broadly, yes, but the US catapult imposed a smaller penalty because it consumed hangar space without permanently breaking up the ship's flight deck and hangar volume.

    Q&A
  23. 1:34:58
    QuestionWere Courageous and Glorious rebuilt with continuous single flight decks before the Second World War?Answer

    No. Both were sunk while still carrying the lower flying-off-deck configuration.

    Q&A
  24. 1:36:25
    QuestionWould a Queen Elizabeth-class carrier count as a light carrier in a Second World War setting?Answer

    No. It would be an enormous super-fleet carrier, though its modern machinery would complicate fitting period catapults.

    Q&A
  25. 1:39:20
    QuestionWhy did the Royal Navy not operate carriers in groups large enough to mass more than one hundred aircraft?Answer

    It planned multi-carrier operations, but wartime losses and global commitments scattered a limited carrier force across too many tasks.

    Q&A
  26. 1:40:06
    QuestionWhat were the posts along early carrier flight decks, and did they obstruct aircraft operations?Answer

    They supported radio aerials and cables, and crews folded them down before operating aircraft.

    Q&A
  27. 1:41:14
    QuestionWhich British carrier did best at the role it was designed to perform during the Second World War?Answer

    Ark Royal and the Illustrious class are strong candidates, but Unicorn excelled as the fleet's aviation-support backstop.

    Q&A
  28. 1:41:53
    QuestionCould an angled flight deck have become practical before the arrival of jets?Answer

    Yes. Fast twin-engine aircraft with high landing speeds could have created the need before jets.

    Q&A
  29. 1:42:20
    Lexington and Saratoga carried the wrong defensive weight

    Eight-inch gun turrets consumed displacement, crew, and flight-deck space for a surface engagement that the fast Lexington-class carriers should have avoided.

    Chapter
  30. 1:52:00
    American alpha strikes and British continuous operations

    American doctrine emphasized a decisive full-air-group strike, while Britain developed continuous cycles and long-range night attacks that shaped the Swordfish's unusual strengths.

    Notable Point
  31. 1:55:54
    QuestionIn the 1930s, who would win between two Lexington-class carriers and all three Courageous-class carriers?Answer

    The Lexingtons are favored in sustained daylight action, while the British carriers could win if they found the Americans at dusk and launched a night strike.

    Q&A
  32. 1:57:39
    Akagi and Kaga multiplied flying decks instead of capacity

    Three flying levels promised simultaneous bomber and fighter launches but proved incompatible with growing aircraft and efficient carrier operations.

    Chapter
  33. 2:00:33
    QuestionWould building Admiral-class carrier conversions have prevented Ark Royal from being built?Answer

    No. Ark Royal would probably still appear, while one or more older experimental carriers would leave service earlier.

    Q&A
  34. 2:02:02
    Ranger and Ryūjō chased air groups on too little hull

    Both navies tried to maximize aircraft under tight tonnage limits, producing light carriers whose structure and survivability restricted frontline use.

    Chapter
  35. 2:11:44
    Ark Royal could have combined armor and a large air group

    A roughly 24,000-ton Ark Royal design could have added an armored flight deck and stronger torpedo defense while retaining speed and a large air group.

    Chapter
  36. 2:16:23
    QuestionWould converting a Nelson-class battleship into an aircraft carrier make sense?Answer

    No. The ships were far too slow, and overcoming that basic limitation would defeat the point of a conversion.

    Q&A
  37. 2:16:51
    QuestionIf forced to choose, would an armored flight deck or Supermarine's original naval Spitfire matter more?Answer

    The armored flight deck, because it reliably preserves the carrier while the fighter remains vulnerable to engine-allocation politics.

    Q&A
  38. 2:18:18
    QuestionWhat wider effects might follow from converting Admiral-class battlecruisers into carriers?Answer

    They could change treaty carrier limits, elevate naval aviation, hasten Fleet Air Arm independence, and make later British carriers larger.

    Q&A
  39. 2:22:28
    Yorktown and Enterprise saved weight in the wrong structure

    The Yorktown class achieved an excellent war record despite a light flight-deck structure and treaty-driven weight savings that restricted protection and wartime growth.

    Chapter
  40. 2:32:28
    Hiryū mirrored the island but not the machinery

    Hiryū's port island was paired with starboard exhaust trunking inherited from Sōryū, adding internal complication without creating a true mirror-image carrier.

    Notable Point
  41. 2:36:24
    Wasp shows the limit of building down a capital ship

    Wasp packed fleet-carrier aviation into about 14,900 tons, but structural and protective sacrifices made the ship too vulnerable for the role claimed for her.

    Chapter
  42. 2:43:15
    QuestionIs there an advantage to unenclosed main gun mounts on aircraft carriers?Answer

    They reduce topweight and ease escape, while an enclosed mount is worthwhile only if it offers real protection.

    Q&A
  43. 2:44:38
    Illustrious air groups were limited by policy and lift layout

    The Illustrious hangar was not exceptionally tiny, but the lack of a permanent deck park and conservative centerline lifts held down aircraft numbers.

    Chapter
  44. 2:52:00
    QuestionWhat did other navies make of Britain's armored carriers, and why did Britain choose them?Answer

    Other navies also moved toward protection; Britain prioritized it because treaty limits forced a tradeoff and its likely theaters exposed carriers to land-based air attack.

    Q&A
  45. 2:54:11
    QuestionWhat creates the weight difference between centerline and deck-edge aircraft elevators?Answer

    Mostly the structure needed to support and stabilize an elevator at the ship's edge, not the elevator platform itself.

    Q&A
  46. 2:54:57
    What later carriers learned from the interwar experiments

    Essex, Midway, and the light fleet carriers turned decades of experiments into more coherent answers for fleet striking power, protection, and rapid production.

    Chapter
  47. 2:56:08
    QuestionDid the United States consider putting an armored flight deck on an Essex-class carrier?Answer

    To an extent, but doing so requires redesigning the supporting structure; that design path leads toward the Midway class.

    Q&A
  48. 2:58:35
    CVA-01 preserved an elaborate answer to deck traffic

    CVA-01's route around the outside of the island moved aircraft forward without interrupting flight operations, but consumed valuable deck area to solve a traffic problem more simply handled by layout and timing.

    Notable Point
  49. 3:02:57
    QuestionIf CVA-01 had been built, would Britain still need a specialized Phantom variant?Answer

    Probably not; CVA-01 would likely have been designed to operate the standard Phantom.

    Q&A
  50. 3:04:38
    QuestionDid the pictured CVA-01 design predate or postdate the angled flight deck concept?Answer

    It postdated the angled flight deck concept by a substantial margin.

    Q&A
  51. 3:08:34
    Brassey's 1900 Naval Annual as a design source

    A reading from Brassey's 1900 Naval Annual shows how a contemporary reference described planned American armoured cruisers through displacement, speed, coal endurance, batteries, and layered armour.

    Notable Point