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Patreon 29: Coastal Defence Ships

Study Patreon 29: Coastal Defence Ships, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 22 Jul 2021, with 54 time notes. Topics include Baltic Sea Strategy, Coastal Defence Ships, Cruisers.

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  1. 2:48
    QuestionShould early US pre-dreadnoughts be included because they were more like coastal-defence ships than oceanic battleships?Answer

    Many had coastal limitations, but congressional requirements made them coastal battleships rather than a deliberately separate coastal-defence type.

    Q&A
  2. 6:11
    Coastal defence ships as armor-firepower deterrents

    The opening framework explains why coastal defence ships traded speed for heavy local armor and guns.

    Chapter
  3. 9:12
    QuestionWould the Scharnhorst class fit the armor-and-speed side of the design diagram?Answer

    Not cleanly, because its 11-inch guns still provide substantial capital-ship firepower.

    Q&A
  4. 10:49
    Why frigates strain the armor-speed-firepower diagram

    Frigates reveal the limits of a design triangle built mainly around capital-ship guns, armor, and speed.

    Notable Point
  5. 13:49
    QuestionWhere would the Littoral Combat Ship fall on the armor-speed-firepower diagram?Answer

    Far toward the speed extreme, because achieving about 40 knots was the programme's dominant requirement.

    Q&A
  6. 14:35
    QuestionWhat kind of ship would the Royal Navy have needed against Icelandic fishery-protection vessels during the Cod Wars?Answer

    HMS Vanguard would have been exceptionally resistant to ramming and capable of pushing the patrol vessels back.

    Q&A
  7. 16:46
    USS Monitor as an early coastal-defence example

    The USS Monitor example shows how slow speed, heavy protection, and large guns can define the type.

    Notable Point
  8. 21:10
    QuestionHow loud was it inside USS Monitor when she was hit?Answer

    Extremely loud; some reports suggest crew members had difficulty hearing for several days after the fight.

    Q&A
  9. 21:40
    QuestionCould CSS Virginia be considered the first coastal-defence ship?Answer

    Not as cleanly as USS Monitor, because Virginia was converted from a sea-going frigate hull rather than designed for the coastal role from the start.

    Q&A
  10. 22:19
    QuestionWhat is the smallest hull that could carry a Schwerer Gustav-caliber gun?Answer

    Probably a 12,000-to-14,000-ton, roughly 200-meter monitor-like ship with a fixed rather than rotating mounting.

    Q&A
  11. 29:30
    QuestionWho would win a fight between USS Monitor and HMS Warrior?Answer

    Warrior could avoid Monitor, outlast her at sea, or use superior speed and mass to ram if forced into close action.

    Q&A
  12. 31:44
    Argentina's Libertad class and cruiser deterrence

    The Libertad-class example shows a small regional ship designed to overmatch likely cruiser-sized threats.

    Notable Point
  13. 36:48
    QuestionWas there a tradeoff between shallow draft for coastal work and the largest gun the ship could carry?Answer

    Yes; Libertad's riverine requirement likely limited the design to 9.4-inch guns, while a larger hull could have carried 12-inch weapons.

    Q&A
  14. 37:56
    QuestionWhy did Argentina's coast guard need former warships armed with 9.4-inch guns?Answer

    The transfer appears to have preserved two ships Argentina was reluctant to discard, extending their service for about twenty years.

    Q&A
  15. 39:33
    Monarch-class ships and concentrated local punch

    The Austro-Hungarian Monarch class illustrates how a coastal ship could still force a serious enemy response.

    Notable Point
  16. 42:54
    QuestionWould gunboats be early coastal-defence ships?Answer

    Some gunboats and guard ships performed coastal defence, but purpose-built coastal-defence ships form a more specific design category.

    Q&A
  17. 46:31
    Brazil's Deodoro class and the road to dreadnoughts

    Brazil's Deodoro class shows how a small navy's preference for armor and heavy guns anticipated its later dreadnought purchases.

    Notable Point
  18. 52:54
    Competing claims about aviation's first flight

    The familiar Wright brothers account sits within a wider field of national claims and source-access problems.

    Notable Point
  19. 58:28
    Provocative quotations as research exercises

    A deliberately contestable quotation can turn skepticism into a structured source-research exercise.

    Notable Point
  20. 1:00:32
    QuestionWhy is there no major current naval power in South America?Answer

    Brazil has the potential, but it would need consistent long-term investment to turn its economy into a substantially stronger fleet.

    Q&A
  21. 1:01:34
    The Herluf Trolle class and Danish armed neutrality

    Denmark's Herluf Trolle class offered enough force to resist coercion without looking like an offensive challenge to a great power.

    Notable Point
  22. 1:07:18
    QuestionHow often did Denmark have its navy stolen?Answer

    Britain seized it twice, and Germany made a third major attempt during Operation Safari in 1943.

    Q&A
  23. 1:10:41
    QuestionDid Danish sailors scuttle their fleet so the Germans could not take it?Answer

    Yes in general, though Peder Skram's exact fate remains uncertain because German forces were already closely guarding the ship.

    Q&A
  24. 1:11:48
    Finland's Vainamoinen class and archipelago firepower

    The Vainamoinen-class ships concentrated four 10-inch guns and a flexible secondary battery in a compact Finnish design.

    Notable Point
  25. 1:18:45
    QuestionWhere is the line between a coastal-defence ship and a monitor?Answer

    A balanced armament suggests a coastal-defence ship; a hull built mainly around a few large guns suggests a monitor, though some designs fit both labels.

    Q&A
  26. 1:23:00
    Bouvines and the French coastal-battleship idea

    The Bouvines example links coastal battleships to French Jeune Ecole thinking and very heavy protection.

    Notable Point
  27. 1:28:18
    QuestionDid the Japanese Navy retain Jeune Ecole thinking through its enthusiasm for torpedoes?Answer

    There is a family resemblance, but Jeune Ecole never fully triumphed, and later missiles mostly replaced guns rather than vindicating the whole doctrine.

    Q&A
  28. 1:29:33
    QuestionWas the Bouvines class protected by Krupp armor or Harvey armor?Answer

    The evidence appears mixed; some sources suggest Krupp armor, but the identification is not certain.

    Q&A
  29. 1:31:51
    Germany's Odin class and the persistence of ramming doctrine

    The German Odin class reveals how late nineteenth-century ramming ideas shaped gun placement, armor, and hull form.

    Notable Point
  30. 1:42:18
    Cerberus-class monitors for colonial harbor defence

    HMVS Cerberus and her relatives adapted the monitor into a heavily protected harbor-defence ship for Victoria and British India.

    Chapter
  31. 1:55:51
    Dutch coastal ships as visibly defensive deterrents

    The Dutch examples show coastal defence ships as muscle that did not look like an offensive fleet threat.

    Notable Point
  32. 1:59:27
    QuestionWhy were most warships of the period painted white?Answer

    White was fashionable and diplomatic, projected confidence, and made dirt easy to spot so the ship could be kept clean and healthy.

    Q&A
  33. 2:01:46
    Why missiles complicate the modern coastal-defence ship

    A modern comparison explains why long-range missiles blur the line between coastal defence and offensive reach.

    Chapter
  34. 2:04:46
    Norway's Tordenskjold class and cost-imposing deterrence

    The Tordenskjold class demonstrates how a medium navy could force an attacker to deploy battleships and escorts instead of a cheap cruiser force.

    Chapter
  35. 2:11:41
    Why coastal warships could remain in service for decades

    Limited sea time preserved hull and machinery life, allowing slow coastal ships to remain credible deterrents for unusually long periods.

    Notable Point
  36. 2:14:16
    The Admiral Ushakov class far from its Baltic coast

    Russia's Admiral Ushakov-class ships show the consequences of sending coastal battleships across the world to Tsushima.

    Notable Point
  37. 2:20:23
    QuestionWhich ships could support a continuing Royal Navy presence in the Far East?Answer

    River-class patrol ships could maintain the routine presence, with periodic carrier-group visits and later Type 31 or Type 32 deployments.

    Q&A
  38. 2:21:41
    QuestionWhat traditional category of warship does a coastal-defence ship belong to?Answer

    It is comparable to a second-class battleship: too powerful for a cruiser to handle safely, but not equal to a first-rate battleship.

    Q&A
  39. 2:26:16
    Sweden's Oden class and a recurring coastal-warship form

    The Oden class illustrates the compact dimensions and heavy armament that repeatedly emerged for late nineteenth-century coastal defence.

    Notable Point
  40. 2:29:58
    QuestionWhat ship is the modern equivalent of a coastal-defence ship?Answer

    The Swedish Visby class is the closest current analogue in this comparison.

    Q&A
  41. 2:31:41
    QuestionWould South American navies have been better served by coastal-defence ships instead of battleships?Answer

    Only for a time; their long coastlines and dispersed ports increasingly required the speed and range of full battleships.

    Q&A
  42. 2:34:04
    QuestionCould Swedish and Norwegian coastal-defence ships have caused a major navy serious blockade or invasion problems?Answer

    Yes; they could force the attacker to deploy full battleship groups, and timely Norwegian mobilization in 1940 would have made the German landing much harder.

    Q&A
  43. 2:38:58
    Swedish Sverige-class ships and Baltic defence

    The Sverige class combined 11-inch guns, fuel resilience, and archipelago concealment with enough capability to lead a Baltic battle group.

    Notable Point
  44. 2:40:02
    QuestionIf Japan had possessed only coastal-defence ships before the Russo-Japanese War, could Russia have invaded?Answer

    Probably not; Japan would still have had numerous local defenders, and Russian naval weaknesses were the larger problem.

    Q&A
  45. 2:50:34
    QuestionWere the Sverige-class ships true pocket battleships?Answer

    They have a stronger claim to the term than most ships because they put 11-inch guns and a battle-group role into a compact regional design.

    Q&A
  46. 2:55:05
    Thailand's Thonburi class at the Battle of Ko Chang

    The Japanese-built Thonburi class connects the coastal-defence type to the Franco-Thai War and the Battle of Ko Chang.

    Notable Point
  47. 3:02:20
    QuestionWould coastal-defence ships have made sense for Italy and its overseas holdings?Answer

    Not especially; Italy needed full battleships that could move around the peninsula and face French or Austro-Hungarian fleets on either coast.

    Q&A
  48. 3:04:37
    Thailand's Chakri Naruebet after the coastal-defence era

    Chakri Naruebet carries Thailand's tradition of unusual warships into the modern aircraft-carrier era.

    Notable Point
  49. 3:06:55
    QuestionWould the Royal Navy's Devastation-class ships count as coastal-defence ships?Answer

    No; they were experimental and imperfect, but they were designed as battleships rather than for a distinct coastal-defence role.

    Q&A
  50. 3:07:43
    QuestionWhere are the Kaiserliche Marine archives, and are the surviving records reliable?Answer

    Use German Federal Archives holdings or microfilmed copies in British and US naval collections, checking current catalogues for exact locations.

    Q&A
  51. 3:13:54
    QuestionWas there a lesson behind keeping the Iowa-class battleships on the register until 2006, or was it only about money?Answer

    Their heavy guns still offered useful and economical amphibious fire support, a capability the Zumwalt programme was meant to replace in modern form.

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  52. 3:18:23
    QuestionDo you have criticisms of naval historian Samuel Eliot Morison?Answer

    Yes; he remains valuable, but readers should recognize how his treatment of slavery and other issues reflects the assumptions of his era.

    Q&A
  53. 3:20:21
    QuestionCould Canada operate three small carriers of about 40,000 tons each?Answer

    Yes if it chose to prioritize and structure naval investment around them, but current governments prefer other spending.

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  54. 3:22:26
    QuestionWhat was the smallest gun that could seriously threaten Scharnhorst?Answer

    Six-inch guns, based on their demonstrated effect at the Battle of North Cape, though range and hit location still mattered.

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