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Number 13 Class: Dreams of Yamatos - Key Ship Series 4, Ship 6
Study Number 13 Class: Dreams of Yamatos - Key Ship Series 4, Ship 6, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 14 Aug 2023, with 21 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Battleships, Japanese Navy.
Time notes
- 0:02Number 13 in Japan's Eight-Eight FleetChapter
The proposed Number 13 class emerges as the fast, 18-inch-gunned successor to Japan's Nagato, Amagi, and Kii programmes.
- 3:01Why Number 13 cannot be called the world's strongestNotable Point
Claims that Number 13 would have been unrivalled depend on unknown American and British successor designs.
- 5:22Industrial preparation made the design plausibleNotable Point
Japan was planning the yard and maintenance capacity for Number 13, making it more than a paper super-battleship.
- 6:02More Daring-class destroyers and postwar naval presenceNotable Point
A brief counterfactual asks whether completing more Daring-class destroyers would have preserved a larger Royal Navy escort and presence force.
- 7:14A delayed treaty system changes battleship baselinesChapter
If treaty limits arrived after Number 13 and its rivals, high speed and heavier guns could become the new capital-ship norm.
- 9:23A later naval treaty does not remove the political crisesNotable Point
The shipbuilding counterfactual is bounded by the argument that fascism, militarism, and Japan's internal divisions would still shape the interwar world.
- 11:28The Eight-Eight Fleet as a costly defensive targetChapter
Japan wanted the battle line to make intervention costly for stronger industrial powers and deter a prolonged war.
- 13:27British imperial manpower complicated Japanese deterrenceNotable Point
Japan had to reckon with Britain as both a naval power and the head of an imperial system able to mobilize forces from several regions.
- 15:02Civil War veterans shaped Japanese views of U.S. cohesionNotable Point
Former Union and Confederate officers employed in Japan gave Japanese planners an unusual perspective on American political solidarity.
- 16:43Number 13's 18-inch, 50-calibre striking powerNotable Point
Number 13's proposed guns combined enormous shell energy with a calibre large enough to push rival navies toward still more extreme weapons.
- 18:42Calibre, rate of fire, and turret handlingNotable Point
The ten-inch-gun analogy shows how slower loading, turret movement, and spotting can erase the theoretical advantage of a larger shell.
- 22:39Hiraga's design lineage from Nagato to Number 13Notable Point
The design is traced from the Queen Elizabeth fast-battleship idea through Japan's Nagato, Amagi, and Kii family and Yuzuru Hiraga's work.
- 23:55Treaty interruption between Number 13 and YamatoNotable Point
Number 13 shows the pre-treaty capital-ship path Japan was preparing before two decades of construction limits led toward Yamato.
- 25:19A visible fast battleship as deterrenceChapter
Number 13 is imagined as a visible fleet cornerstone, contrasting with the limited deterrent value of a hidden prestige ship.
- 28:27The Eight-Eight Fleet as shield and sledgehammerNotable Point
Japan weighed the fleet's cost honestly while recognizing that a force defensive against great powers could be coercive against weaker states.
- 31:20Using a simulation to test a hypothetical designNotable Point
A modernized game model preserves Number 13's intended speed and guns while making its displacement and stability compromises explicit.
- 33:09Speed, range control, and South Dakota's twelve gunsNotable Point
Number 13's 30-knot speed could keep a 23-knot South Dakota at long range, but damage would quickly erode that advantage.
- 37:28Shell volume can outweigh larger calibreNotable Point
The simulation illustrates why more smaller guns and a faster firing cycle can overwhelm a smaller battery of very large guns.
- 40:00Why a duel cannot represent the whole battle lineNotable Point
A realistic comparison would require entire battle lines and cruiser forces, not one Number 13 fighting one South Dakota.
- 42:37What a historical simulation can and cannot showNotable Point
Historical simulations are useful illustrations of choices and constraints, not definitive answers to an unrealized arms race.
- 46:38Modernising Number 13 with Yamato-era armourNotable Point
A brief postscript imagines rebuilding Number 13 with Yamato-level protection as a route to a late-1930s Japanese fast battleship.