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How & Why during WWII Motor Torpedo Boats(MTBs) became Motor Gun Boats(MGBs): Pacific Theatre
Study How & Why during WWII Motor Torpedo Boats(MTBs) became Motor Gun Boats(MGBs): Pacific Theatre, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 5 Oct 2023, with 44 time notes. Topics include Imperial Japanese Navy, Motor Gun Boats…
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- 6:05Why Pacific torpedo boats have transatlantic design rootsChapter
British and American torpedo-boat builders shared ideas through the civilian yachting market, while Hickman's sea sled offered a fast tunnel-hull approach.
- 13:31Hickman's sea sled and the birth of the coastal motor boatChapter
An American sea-sled proposal helped inspire the British coastal motor boat, while the US Navy repeatedly delayed its own fast torpedo-boat development.
- 18:17C-378: a fast sea sled delivered as the war endedNotable Point
C-378 demonstrated speed in rough water, but the Armistice interrupted American torpedo-boat development and shifted surviving craft into support duties.
- 20:42The 1938 US Navy PT-boat competitionChapter
The US Navy sought fast boats with specified endurance and armament while excluding Hickman's sea-sled design.
- 24:31QuestionAt what tonnage does a World War II motor torpedo or gun boat stop being a boat?AnswerQ&A
Above roughly 100 to 120 tons, the classification becomes debatable, perhaps closer to a motor torpedo ship.
- 25:47Ajax and CV90 as a procurement-politics analogyNotable Point
A criticism of the Ajax decision favors the mature CV90, accompanied by conflicting personal reports from Army contacts in 2023.
- 28:49The 1938 US requirement already included a gunboat optionNotable Point
The 54-foot proposal paired transportability with alternative torpedo and gunboat configurations.
- 31:38Why a PT-boat competition winner preferred the excluded sea sledNotable Point
George Crouch's preference for Hickman's sea sled challenged the design restriction in the competition he had just won.
- 34:14How Higgins, Elco, and Huckins entered the PT-boat raceNotable Point
Competing builders produced and adapted early prototypes, while Elco imported a British Power Boat design that became PT-9.
- 41:29QuestionWas there any attempt to mount the autoloading 3-inch/50 gun on a motor gun boat?AnswerQ&A
None comes to mind, although that does not rule out a proposal or trial.
- 41:39The open-ocean trials that tested PT boatsChapter
The so-called plywood derby compared competing PT boats under load, exposing differences in pounding, speed, machinery, and turning ability.
- 53:02Why the Elco PT boat dominated productionNotable Point
Elco built the best-known US PT boats in large numbers, while Higgins shifted toward landing craft and Huckins remained a small producer despite a strong trial result.
- 56:05Why Elco and Fairmile production totals are hard to compareNotable Point
Claims that Elco built more motor torpedo boats than anyone else depend on how mixed-role Fairmile craft are classified.
- 58:17Where Higgins and Huckins PT boats servedNotable Point
Higgins PT boats fought from the Aleutians and Mediterranean to D-Day, while rugged Huckins boats supported training and readiness around Midway and Hawaii.
- 1:04:33Okinawa revealed the need for small-craft gunboatsChapter
The anti-suicide-boat screen off Okinawa showed why a torpedo-focused PT boat could not cover every close-in defence task.
- 1:11:17Japan's pursuit of destroyer-killing torpedo boatsChapter
Japanese treaty-era small craft were burdened by an ambition to fight above their natural role.
- 1:16:46Japan's Type 14 and Type 38 motor torpedo boatsNotable Point
The Type 14 combined torpedoes with a light gun, while the Type 38 offered another small design built in comparable numbers.
- 1:20:57Why Japan's Type 51 was not a German SchnellbootNotable Point
German drawings could not supply the manufacturing experience needed to reproduce a Schnellboot in Japanese yards.
- 1:26:52Good-enough boats versus borrowed perfectionNotable Point
Steady improvement and room for heavier weapons could matter more than outstanding performance in one category.
- 1:34:28Shinyo boats and the defence of Japan's home islandsChapter
Japan built thousands of Shinyo and Maru-Ni special-attack boats, creating a serious potential threat to any home-island invasion force.
- 1:49:46A32 and Sulev: a First World War boat in Soviet serviceNotable Point
The German A32 was sunk during Operation Albion, raised by Estonia as Sulev, and absorbed into the Soviet Navy before fighting its original builders in the Second World War.
- 1:53:08The Soviet Sh-4 and stern-launched torpedoesChapter
The Sh-4 combined extreme speed ambitions with a whaleback hull, stern torpedo cradles, and materials that proved difficult to maintain at sea.
- 2:03:45QuestionWhere were the Sh-4 torpedo boats built and based?AnswerQ&A
They were built in several places and assigned across the Baltic, Black Sea, and Pacific, although the surviving built and commissioned totals do not agree.
- 2:04:50The G-5: extraordinary speed, demanding maintenanceChapter
The G-5 pushed Soviet fast-boat performance to more than 50 knots, but its alloy hull and stern-launch system imposed severe operational limits.
- 2:05:41How an aviation alloy became a naval maintenance burdenNotable Point
Duralumin gave Soviet fast boats a light structure, but aircraft-derived design choices imposed relentless corrosion control in salt water.
- 2:13:39QuestionDid Soviet publicity claim the G-5's alloy was corrosion-proof because sacrificial anodes were supposedly unnecessary?AnswerQ&A
Yes. G-5 publicity claimed corrosion had been conquered, despite service evidence of severe continuing maintenance demands.
- 2:16:41How G-5 production series changed speed and armamentNotable Point
G-5 development increased speed and light gun armament through successive production series.
- 2:22:43Why so many G-5s remained in the Soviet Pacific FleetNotable Point
The large Soviet G-5 concentration in the Far East is interpreted as a defensive hedge against a Japanese attack.
- 2:24:41What G-5 torpedo boats actually did in wartimeNotable Point
G-5s made several torpedo attacks, but troop transport, personnel movement, and landing escort often made better use of the difficult whaleback design.
- 2:28:12The D-3 and the cost of unproven propulsionChapter
Soviet D-3 development sought a larger, better-armed boat, but prototype weaknesses and unreliable engines sharply reduced its intended performance.
- 2:40:49D-3 boats in Baltic, Black Sea, and Arctic combatNotable Point
Despite development failures, D-3-family boats fought across several Soviet theatres, including the sinking of German torpedo boat T31 and a decorated Arctic service record.
- 2:45:41The P-4 Komsomolets: a more adaptable Soviet fast boatNotable Point
The P-4 combined a flush deck and Packard engines with a more useful weapons layout, though its alloy hull still demanded intensive corrosion protection.
- 2:49:07The P-4's postwar path through China, Bangladesh, and VietnamNotable Point
P-4 boats served in Asian fleets after World War II, with a Taiwan Strait example and a tentative connection to the Gulf of Tonkin.
- 2:55:53Why motor torpedo boats became motor gun boatsChapter
Wartime coastal fighting demanded gun armament and hulls capable of carrying it alongside or in place of torpedoes.
- 2:59:26QuestionWhy not include Soviet riverine gunboats with T-34 tank turrets?AnswerQ&A
They came from a separate design tradition. Including them would require a wider comparison covering equivalent river gunboats, including the Royal Navy's Insect class.
- 3:00:49QuestionHow much did British torpedo-boat operations after the First World War influence Soviet small-boat doctrine?AnswerQ&A
The influence was substantial, helping inspire early Soviet interest, but it also left the Soviets tied to an approach that needed more revision.
- 3:01:50QuestionCould a Soviet alloy-hulled torpedo boat carry two to four fixed forward guns with limited traverse?AnswerQ&A
Steel gun components close to the aluminium-copper hull in salt water would risk worsening corrosion.
- 3:02:38QuestionDid torpedo boats only become viable as fast attack craft in the missile era?AnswerQ&A
No. In the world wars they were already viable as a massed, affordable defensive threat to larger ships.
- 3:03:27Crew additions and the British response with purpose-built gunboatsNotable Point
British procurement incorporated the gunboat role into new boats while crews elsewhere adapted torpedo-focused designs.
- 3:04:15QuestionWhy do British Empire alternate histories often seem to lack imagination?AnswerQ&A
The problem may not be universal, but weaker examples ignore how imperial planning and institutions were already changing.
- 3:04:45Uncrewed boats can revive an old fast-attack roleNotable Point
A modern uncrewed small craft may look novel while reviving the older logic of cheap, fast boats carrying danger into defended waters.
- 3:07:03QuestionWere the Dark and Gay fast patrol boats or the Brave fast attack craft direct successors to wartime motor torpedo and gun boats?AnswerQ&A
The Gay class shared some similarities without being a straightforward successor. The other two class lineages remain unresolved.
- 3:07:25QuestionWhat size warheads do contemporary explosive boats carry?AnswerQ&A
No reliable size is given from memory. A viewer cites 400 kg and 800 kg for two unspecified designs, while most circulating figures are treated as estimates.
- 3:08:34How Soviet torpedo reliability improved during the warNotable Point
Soviet torpedoes began the war less reliably than British weapons, then improved quickly.