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What if the Royal Navy went 4.7in rather than 4.5in for dual purpose?
Study What if the Royal Navy went 4.7in rather than 4.5in for dual purpose?, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 10 Dec 2022, with 22 time notes. Topics include 4.7-inch Guns, Air Defence, Alternate History.
Time notes
- 0:00Choosing the 4.7-inch 45-calibre starting pointChapter
The scenario develops the widespread 4.7-inch 45-calibre gun for full high-angle fire. The heavier 50-calibre weapon arrives too late and needs too much weight and power to reshape the early war as widely.
- 5:39How the failed five-inch project split British gun developmentNotable Point
The historical procurement path matters because failure of a proposed five-inch common weapon sent the Royal Navy toward separate 5.25-inch and 4.5-inch specialist solutions.
- 9:06Mount geometry, stability, and an experienced gun workforceNotable Point
Making the gun reach 80 degrees requires more than lifting the barrel: the mount, deck foundation, ship stability, loading geometry, and trained crews all shape feasibility.
- 12:26The performance case for a high-angle 4.7-inch gunChapter
A direct comparison of shell weight, rate of fire, muzzle velocity, elevation, and ceiling shows why the familiar destroyer gun could plausibly become a heavy anti-aircraft weapon.
- 19:07Capital ships and carriers join the common-gun fleetChapter
Queen Elizabeth and Valiant, Renown, Ark Royal, and the Illustrious-class carriers show how one high-angle secondary battery could spread across the capital-ship fleet.
- 21:41C-class anti-aircraft cruisers keep a surface punchChapter
Twin high-angle 4.7-inch mounts would let C-class anti-aircraft cruiser conversions engage aircraft while retaining more useful surface firepower than their historical four-inch batteries.
- 27:06An Abdiel-class minelayer with six 4.7-inch gunsNotable Point
A fast Abdiel-class minelayer illustrates how a dual-purpose 4.7-inch mount could make a specialist ship dangerous to both aircraft and fast coastal craft.
- 29:54Interwar industrial investment makes mass refits possibleNotable Point
The ability to standardize a fleet weapon rests on the Royal Navy's early-1930s decision to revive dockyards and industrial plants left underused after the First World War.
- 32:18Keeping an alternate-history fleet inside evidence limitsNotable Point
One plausible ship survival cannot be compounded indefinitely into confident claims about Taranto, the Mediterranean, Arctic convoys, or the Indian Ocean.
- 34:02Tribal destroyers against Norway's dive bombersChapter
The Tribal class becomes the clearest early-war test: high-angle main guns could have made its eight 4.7-inch weapons a much stronger answer to dive-bombing attacks.
- 40:01Heavy anti-aircraft fire breaks up an attackNotable Point
Sustained heavy fire could unsettle attacking pilots and degrade bombing accuracy even when it did not shoot down the aircraft.
- 41:45An existing 4.5-inch plan makes mass conversion credibleNotable Point
Town-class and County-class cruisers extend the scenario because British planners already intended to convert much of the fleet once a common high-angle gun became ready.
- 46:06A common calibre makes wartime supply more resilientChapter
Replacing separate four-inch, 4.5-inch, and 4.7-inch ammunition streams with one widely produced round changes both fleet logistics and the vulnerability of wartime manufacturing.
- 48:54Tribals and C-class cruisers reinforce the MediterraneanNotable Point
Surviving Tribal destroyers and 4.7-inch-armed C-class cruisers could give Mediterranean formations continuous heavy anti-aircraft fire without surrendering surface capability.
- 52:18Escort conversions and Operation ClaymoreChapter
Sloops, escort destroyers, frigates, and older V and W classes could retain useful surface firepower while supplying far denser high-angle cover to a task group.
- 56:12Better fleet air defence invites a German countermeasureNotable Point
The counterfactual cannot freeze the enemy: stronger British defence against dive bombers could accelerate German radio-controlled anti-ship weapons.
- 57:52Repulse trades two specialist batteries for one common fitNotable Point
Replacing Repulse's mixed low- and high-angle four-inch guns with six twin 4.7-inch mounts increases the number of weapons available against either aircraft or surface attackers.
- 59:19Force Z remains a contingent outcomeChapter
More carriers, high-angle Tribal escorts, and a better-armed Repulse could disrupt the attack on Force Z. The outcome remains contingent because Japanese tactics and subsequent British decisions would also change.
- 1:03:12Redirecting 4.5-inch investment into the common gunNotable Point
Money and design attention historically spent on the 4.5-inch system fund the improved 4.7-inch gun and high-angle mount.
- 1:05:26Why the Royal Navy kept specialist gun solutionsNotable Point
The conclusion weighs the appeal of a common 4.7-inch gun against the real virtues of lighter four-inch weapons and the highly capable 4.5-inch design.
- 1:07:22Damage instead of loss is a long-war advantageNotable Point
The most defensible gain is fewer total losses, more repairable ships, and a Royal Navy whose 1939 air defence clears the contemporary standard more comfortably.
- 1:10:41A feasible mount opens a 50-calibre follow-onNotable Point
British industry could plausibly build the high-angle 45-calibre mount, and success might then push the heavier L-class 50-calibre weapon toward the same elevation.