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What if the Royal Navy's Aircraft Carrier HMS Hermes had sisters in the 1920s? (Patreon Live)

Study What if the Royal Navy's Aircraft Carrier HMS Hermes had sisters in the 1920s? (Patreon Live), a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 5 Mar 2026, with 68 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Cruiser Carriers…

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  1. 7:42
    Washington Treaty pressure for smaller carriers

    The Washington Naval Treaty made cumulative carrier tonnage the main constraint while leaving sub-10,000-ton warships outside a comparable total limit.

    Chapter
  2. 10:57
    Why a similar air group does not make a light carrier a fleet carrier

    Air-group size could make a light carrier look comparable on paper, but protection and subdivision still separated it from a true fleet carrier.

    Notable Point
  3. 12:27
    Why Britain protected cruiser and sloop numbers

    Britain kept smaller warships outside a cumulative limit because cruisers and sloops were essential to protecting maritime trade and imperial communications.

    Notable Point
  4. 16:08
    Why HMS Hermes did not commission until 1924

    A construction pause delayed the purpose-designed Hermes until 1924, allowing Hosho to enter service first.

    Notable Point
  5. 17:20
    HMS Hermes as a cruiser-carrier presence ship

    Hermes paired cruiser-scale machinery and armament with a practical twelve- to eighteen-aircraft group, long range, and enough stability for distant reconnaissance and presence duties.

    Chapter
  6. 27:20
    Designing a Hermes sister under 10,000 tons

    A lighter Hermes derivative could trade guns and machinery layout for concentrated protection while retaining a useful 40,000-shaft-horsepower carrier platform.

    Notable Point
  7. 28:20
    Why Beatty rejected the cruiser-carrier idea

    David Beatty's confidence in shore-based RAF support led him to dismiss repeated small-carrier studies, despite the Royal Navy's need for politically influential leadership.

    Chapter
  8. 32:37
    Beatty's interwar procurement priorities

    One interpretation links Beatty's preference for Nelson, Rodney, and lightly protected County-class cruisers, together with few small-ship orders, to his defence of his wartime record.

    Notable Point
  9. 34:50
    What battlecruisers were meant to do at Jutland

    Battlecruisers traded armour for speed and were best used for running cruiser actions, fast-wing work, and pursuit instead of reinforcing the Grand Fleet in the battle line.

    Notable Point
  10. 37:22
    Judge Type 31 against its intended role

    A Tornado F3 analogy leads to a modern naval lesson: Type 31 should be judged as part of a force that uses Type 26 sensors and helicopters against submarines.

    Notable Point
  11. 40:54
    Carrier pairs for distant cruiser stations

    The counterfactual places small carriers with cruiser squadrons on the China, East Indies, Australasian, Atlantic, and West Indies stations rather than in home waters.

    Chapter
  12. 43:55
    A carrier programme preserves yards and creates an aviation cadre

    Six cruiser-sized carriers would keep underused yards, boiler and gun development, and a much larger pool of carrier-experienced personnel active through the interwar years.

    Chapter
  13. 48:48
    Japan could shift fleet scouting onto small carriers

    British cruiser-carriers give Japan a plausible alternative way to remove reconnaissance from fleet-carrier decks while adding torpedo aircraft to its attritional battle plan.

    Notable Point
  14. 49:01
    Ranger shows the structural cost of a very light carrier

    Ranger's flexing in heavy weather illustrates the structural and seakeeping penalties that can accompany an aggressively light carrier design.

    Notable Point
  15. 52:16
    American scout carriers could move risk away from fleet carriers

    The US Navy could use small carriers as an exposed reconnaissance screen, keeping its main striking decks farther back and creating pressure to protect the scouts against enemy attack.

    Notable Point
  16. 54:11
    Small carriers become mobile aviation infrastructure

    Australian and New Zealand carriers would carry aircraft support into regions where shore infrastructure could not yet sustain a useful interwar air presence.

    Notable Point
  17. 55:38
    How the London Treaty might create a light-carrier allowance

    The historical rules counted small carriers against the existing ceiling, while this scenario gives the London negotiations a possible 13,500-ton light-carrier category with a separate national allowance.

    Chapter
  18. 1:00:35
    A twelve-ship force approaches Colossus-class capability

    A 12,800-ton successor to Hermes could carry roughly forty aircraft; the proposed twelve-ship force uses six-group arithmetic despite an audible list of seven destinations.

    Chapter
  19. 1:03:14
    Lexington conversions consume half the US carrier allowance

    The two Lexington-class conversions use roughly half the US carrier allowance, giving American negotiators a strong reason to protect fleet-carrier tonnage when a light-carrier category is discussed.

    Notable Point
  20. 1:05:22
    A larger carrier force could return the Fleet Air Arm earlier

    More ships, aircraft, and trained personnel strengthen the Royal Navy's institutional case for recovering control of the Fleet Air Arm several years earlier.

    Chapter
  21. 1:06:34
    Britain and Japan would lead light-carrier adoption

    Britain and Japan would make the heaviest use of a light-carrier allowance, while France and Italy might follow, with reconnaissance giving Italy a practical reason.

    Notable Point
  22. 1:07:33
    Overseas bases keep station carriers available

    A network of overseas maintenance bases makes it plausible for six of twelve light carriers to remain available, one for each distant station.

    Notable Point
  23. 1:09:45
    Separate allowances could support larger fleet carriers

    A separate light-carrier allowance removes pressure to economize on fleet-carrier tonnage, producing a larger Ark Royal and more Yorktown-class ships instead of Ranger and Wasp.

    Notable Point
  24. 1:12:18
    The light-carrier hull could lead to an aviation support ship

    A larger carrier programme could develop an aviation-support variant of the light-carrier hull, anticipating the role later embodied by HMS Unicorn.

    Notable Point
  25. 1:14:04
    Light carriers could spread beyond the major navies

    A proven, affordable light-carrier type gives France, Italy, the Netherlands, Greece, Turkey, and South American navies a stronger reason to acquire naval aviation.

    Notable Point
  26. 1:15:37
    Small fleets gain local air cover without tying down fleet carriers

    A thirty- to forty-aircraft light carrier can defend a small task group, support convoys, and cover secondary stations while fleet carriers remain concentrated.

    Notable Point
  27. 1:16:29
    Carrier spending still needs a country-specific political case

    US congressional funding, Japanese expansion, and Britain's global commitments and shipyard employment create different political cases for light-carrier construction.

    Notable Point
  28. 1:18:58
    A carrier becomes the cruiser squadron's aviation workshop

    A small carrier could remove aviation fuel from cruisers and maintain or replace their seaplanes, making reconnaissance more reliable on distant stations.

    Notable Point
  29. 1:21:05
    QuestionWhy did interwar navies not use diesel engines for carrier aircraft?Answer

    Because aircraft development depended on rapidly increasing horsepower, and diesel engines were not perceived as powerful enough.

    Q&A
  30. 1:21:51
    More carrier exercises could improve later decisions

    Additional carriers create more exercises and operational evidence, which could improve later doctrine and procurement decisions without guaranteeing better judgment.

    Notable Point
  31. 1:22:45
    Small carriers could widen Japan's shipyard base

    A light-carrier programme could shift work beyond Japan's crowded core naval yards and bring other substantial facilities into carrier construction.

    Notable Point
  32. 1:23:41
    More carriers also mean more escorts

    A wider carrier fleet improves scouting and anti-submarine options, but it deepens the Royal Navy's recurring shortage of destroyers and cruisers for escort duty.

    Notable Point
  33. 1:25:06
    How carrier continuity could change Hermes and Force Z

    A continuing light-carrier production line could replace Hermes before Operation C and give Force Z enough fighter cover to impose severe losses on Japanese torpedo bombers.

    Notable Point
  34. 1:28:22
    QuestionWhat size and style of pre-1922 aircraft carrier would be most useful in the Second World War?Answer

    Hermes and Eagle are the strongest candidates: Hermes for range and Eagle for her large hangar.

    Q&A
  35. 1:29:29
    QuestionWhat would a carrier design on a heavy-cruiser hull look like if it had to remain below 10,000 tons?Answer

    Use a Hermes-like arrangement on a cruiser hull; the concept is a modest adaptation, not a full fleet carrier.

    Q&A
  36. 1:30:06
    QuestionCould treaty navies have chosen 35,000-ton aircraft carriers instead of 35,000-ton battleships?Answer

    No. In 1922 carriers were promising but not yet credible substitutes for battleships in the eyes of naval leaders.

    Q&A
  37. 1:31:01
    QuestionWhat would a cruiser-carrier submarine look like, and would it be useful?Answer

    It would resemble an M1 or Surcouf with a hangar, but only an I-400-style strike mission gives the aircraft a convincing purpose.

    Q&A
  38. 1:32:08
    QuestionWith twelve light carriers, how many could remain on station while others refit?Answer

    About six could be operational or readily active at a time, with the rest preparing for or undergoing refit.

    Q&A
  39. 1:33:12
    QuestionWould each carrier-backed cruiser station also receive one or two seaplane tenders?Answer

    Probably not in the Royal Navy, which repeatedly considered but did not embrace the type; France was much more likely to expand seaplane tenders.

    Q&A
  40. 1:33:45
    QuestionHow would widespread carrier aviation affect the German Panzerschiff programme?Answer

    It would make commerce raiding far riskier by giving cruiser groups wide-area scouting and carrier strikes, possibly forcing Germany to rethink the ships' role.

    Q&A
  41. 1:37:12
    QuestionWhat changes if Britain mass-produces destroyers and sloops alongside the light carriers?Answer

    It could support retention of V and W-class destroyers and begin destroyer development earlier instead of compressing it into the 1930s.

    Q&A
  42. 1:37:56
    QuestionWhat was Ben-my-Chree, and why did it make the Royal Navy so cautious about aviation fuel?Answer

    It was a converted ferry used as a First World War seaplane tender, and its aviation fire helped inspire exceptionally cautious British fuel-storage and drainage systems.

    Q&A
  43. 1:41:09
    QuestionCould aircraft carried by cruisers land on and operate from the squadron's assigned carrier?Answer

    Potentially, but later light carriers may carry enough fighters and search aircraft that separate cruiser aircraft become unnecessary.

    Q&A
  44. 1:41:58
    Where the carrier counterfactual stops being useful

    The scenario stays useful while it follows carrier designs and intended uses repeatedly studied by the Royal Navy; farther downstream, specific outcomes become unreliable.

    Notable Point
  45. 1:43:13
    QuestionWhat size shipyard and how much manpower would a Hermes-style light carrier require?Answer

    A cruiser yard and a cruiser-sized crew would suffice; the design could plausibly be built and manned across the Commonwealth.

    Q&A
  46. 1:45:32
    QuestionWhat design would the Imperial Japanese Navy choose as its standard light carrier?Answer

    Probably a more sensible 14,000- to 15,000-ton design closer to a reduced Soryu than to the unsuccessful Ryujo.

    Q&A
  47. 1:49:03
    QuestionIf the Fleet Air Arm controlled its own budget, could naval Spitfire work affect the standard Spitfire?Answer

    Possibly, by funding engine development a year or two earlier, though the effect would be incremental rather than transformative.

    Q&A
  48. 1:49:59
    QuestionHow would carrier proliferation affect Japan's naval pilot training plan?Answer

    Japan would either relax its demanding standards to produce more aviators or expand the same intensive system, with the latter more likely.

    Q&A
  49. 1:50:24
    QuestionIf ABDA Command had Dutch and Australian light carriers, would that change the East Indies campaign?Answer

    Yes: independent reconnaissance and air strikes could alter cruiser battles and make Japanese torpedo attacks more hazardous, but both sides would adapt.

    Q&A
  50. 1:51:38
    QuestionCould additional light carriers let Japan strike the Philippines while the main carrier force attacks Hawaii?Answer

    Possibly, although Japan might instead bring the light carriers to Pearl Harbor to increase the main strike's power.

    Q&A
  51. 1:53:12
    QuestionWhy is a modern aircraft-carrier submarine a bad idea?Answer

    A hangar and its openings undermine pressure-hull design; VLS-launched reconnaissance and strike drones offer a more practical version of the concept.

    Q&A
  52. 1:53:52
    QuestionIs a hangar height of about twenty feet reasonable for larger carrier-operated seaplanes?Answer

    Yes. The tall hangars in Hermes and Eagle show how larger float-equipped aircraft could be accommodated.

    Q&A
  53. 1:54:11
    QuestionWould additional light carriers be used at Taranto, on Malta convoys, or against Bismarck?Answer

    They would more likely free fleet carriers from ASW and scouting, potentially preserving Courageous and Glorious and enabling a much larger Taranto strike.

    Q&A
  54. 1:55:10
    QuestionIf Germany built light carriers, how badly would Goering disrupt the programme?Answer

    There would be a fight over control, but aircraft attached to the ships would probably remain under shipboard authority.

    Q&A
  55. 1:55:55
    QuestionHow would the Royal Navy alter a Lexington-class carrier transferred into British service?Answer

    Remove the heavy guns and use the saved topweight and space to improve the ship's carrier capabilities.

    Q&A
  56. 1:56:27
    QuestionWould widespread light-carrier construction make navies take anti-aircraft weaponry more seriously?Answer

    Yes, though Germany in particular would remain constrained by the loss of research and industrial capacity after the First World War.

    Q&A
  57. 1:57:01
    QuestionHow could an interwar designer justify fitting a carrier with catapults?Answer

    By showing that catapults launch heavier aircraft; the harder argument would be adopting steam rather than hydraulic machinery.

    Q&A
  58. 1:57:48
    QuestionHow many jobs would building the extra carriers and accompanying warships create?Answer

    Several thousand, with shipyards kept open and wider effects across the economy.

    Q&A
  59. 1:58:02
    QuestionWould each large fleet carrier be assigned a light carrier for fighter defence?Answer

    No. The Royal Navy would need the light carriers for too many other station, reconnaissance, and support duties.

    Q&A
  60. 1:58:33
    QuestionWhat might happen to French light carriers when France surrenders in 1940?Answer

    Ships in British ports would likely be seized for the Free French; ships in French ports might be sunk or neutralized.

    Q&A
  61. 1:59:07
    QuestionWould the expanded carrier programme counter the influence of land-based heavy-bomber advocates?Answer

    Yes, because aircraft firms would see more money in naval aviation and have reason to support carrier-based requirements.

    Q&A
  62. 1:59:20
    QuestionWould Sweden lack the resources or need to operate a light carrier in the Baltic?Answer

    Not necessarily; Gotland and Sweden's existing infrastructure make a light carrier plausible in this scenario.

    Q&A
  63. 1:59:44
    QuestionCould a carrier-backed ABDA Command delay Japan long enough for a British or American fleet to arrive?Answer

    No isolated answer is reliable because the scenario has already changed carrier losses, Taranto, Allied deployments, and Japanese calculations.

    Q&A
  64. 2:02:08
    QuestionHow would a Stalin-era Soviet light-carrier programme develop in this scenario?Answer

    It might be authorized, but whether the Soviet Union could complete useful carriers before the war is uncertain.

    Q&A
  65. 2:02:19
    QuestionWould ten or more light carriers make Churchill's decision to pause carrier construction more reasonable?Answer

    Only slightly: the reserve helps, but proven carrier utility and the need for escorts would also make a pause harder to justify.

    Q&A
  66. 2:03:30
    QuestionCould Britain cancel its cruiser programme and spend the money on carriers instead?Answer

    No. The strategy needs both cruisers and carriers because their roles are complementary.

    Q&A
  67. 2:04:57
    QuestionMight navies order light carriers from civilian shipyards?Answer

    Yes. Interwar yards commonly built both naval and commercial ships, so many cruiser-capable yards could take the work.

    Q&A
  68. 2:06:13
    QuestionWhat is the best heavy anti-aircraft weapon for an aircraft carrier?Answer

    For an American carrier, the 5-inch; for a British carrier, probably the 4.5-inch. Both are dual-purpose weapons.

    Q&A