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What if the Royal Navy's Aircraft Carrier HMS Hermes had sisters in the 1920s? (Patreon Live)
Study What if the Royal Navy's Aircraft Carrier HMS Hermes had sisters in the 1920s? (Patreon Live), a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 5 Mar 2026, with 68 time notes. Topics include Alternate History, Cruiser Carriers…
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- 7:42Washington Treaty pressure for smaller carriersChapter
The Washington Naval Treaty made cumulative carrier tonnage the main constraint while leaving sub-10,000-ton warships outside a comparable total limit.
- 10:57Why a similar air group does not make a light carrier a fleet carrierNotable Point
Air-group size could make a light carrier look comparable on paper, but protection and subdivision still separated it from a true fleet carrier.
- 12:27Why Britain protected cruiser and sloop numbersNotable Point
Britain kept smaller warships outside a cumulative limit because cruisers and sloops were essential to protecting maritime trade and imperial communications.
- 16:08Why HMS Hermes did not commission until 1924Notable Point
A construction pause delayed the purpose-designed Hermes until 1924, allowing Hosho to enter service first.
- 17:20HMS Hermes as a cruiser-carrier presence shipChapter
Hermes paired cruiser-scale machinery and armament with a practical twelve- to eighteen-aircraft group, long range, and enough stability for distant reconnaissance and presence duties.
- 27:20Designing a Hermes sister under 10,000 tonsNotable Point
A lighter Hermes derivative could trade guns and machinery layout for concentrated protection while retaining a useful 40,000-shaft-horsepower carrier platform.
- 28:20Why Beatty rejected the cruiser-carrier ideaChapter
David Beatty's confidence in shore-based RAF support led him to dismiss repeated small-carrier studies, despite the Royal Navy's need for politically influential leadership.
- 32:37Beatty's interwar procurement prioritiesNotable Point
One interpretation links Beatty's preference for Nelson, Rodney, and lightly protected County-class cruisers, together with few small-ship orders, to his defence of his wartime record.
- 34:50What battlecruisers were meant to do at JutlandNotable Point
Battlecruisers traded armour for speed and were best used for running cruiser actions, fast-wing work, and pursuit instead of reinforcing the Grand Fleet in the battle line.
- 37:22Judge Type 31 against its intended roleNotable Point
A Tornado F3 analogy leads to a modern naval lesson: Type 31 should be judged as part of a force that uses Type 26 sensors and helicopters against submarines.
- 40:54Carrier pairs for distant cruiser stationsChapter
The counterfactual places small carriers with cruiser squadrons on the China, East Indies, Australasian, Atlantic, and West Indies stations rather than in home waters.
- 43:55A carrier programme preserves yards and creates an aviation cadreChapter
Six cruiser-sized carriers would keep underused yards, boiler and gun development, and a much larger pool of carrier-experienced personnel active through the interwar years.
- 48:48Japan could shift fleet scouting onto small carriersNotable Point
British cruiser-carriers give Japan a plausible alternative way to remove reconnaissance from fleet-carrier decks while adding torpedo aircraft to its attritional battle plan.
- 49:01Ranger shows the structural cost of a very light carrierNotable Point
Ranger's flexing in heavy weather illustrates the structural and seakeeping penalties that can accompany an aggressively light carrier design.
- 52:16American scout carriers could move risk away from fleet carriersNotable Point
The US Navy could use small carriers as an exposed reconnaissance screen, keeping its main striking decks farther back and creating pressure to protect the scouts against enemy attack.
- 54:11Small carriers become mobile aviation infrastructureNotable Point
Australian and New Zealand carriers would carry aircraft support into regions where shore infrastructure could not yet sustain a useful interwar air presence.
- 55:38How the London Treaty might create a light-carrier allowanceChapter
The historical rules counted small carriers against the existing ceiling, while this scenario gives the London negotiations a possible 13,500-ton light-carrier category with a separate national allowance.
- 1:00:35A twelve-ship force approaches Colossus-class capabilityChapter
A 12,800-ton successor to Hermes could carry roughly forty aircraft; the proposed twelve-ship force uses six-group arithmetic despite an audible list of seven destinations.
- 1:03:14Lexington conversions consume half the US carrier allowanceNotable Point
The two Lexington-class conversions use roughly half the US carrier allowance, giving American negotiators a strong reason to protect fleet-carrier tonnage when a light-carrier category is discussed.
- 1:05:22A larger carrier force could return the Fleet Air Arm earlierChapter
More ships, aircraft, and trained personnel strengthen the Royal Navy's institutional case for recovering control of the Fleet Air Arm several years earlier.
- 1:06:34Britain and Japan would lead light-carrier adoptionNotable Point
Britain and Japan would make the heaviest use of a light-carrier allowance, while France and Italy might follow, with reconnaissance giving Italy a practical reason.
- 1:07:33Overseas bases keep station carriers availableNotable Point
A network of overseas maintenance bases makes it plausible for six of twelve light carriers to remain available, one for each distant station.
- 1:09:45Separate allowances could support larger fleet carriersNotable Point
A separate light-carrier allowance removes pressure to economize on fleet-carrier tonnage, producing a larger Ark Royal and more Yorktown-class ships instead of Ranger and Wasp.
- 1:12:18The light-carrier hull could lead to an aviation support shipNotable Point
A larger carrier programme could develop an aviation-support variant of the light-carrier hull, anticipating the role later embodied by HMS Unicorn.
- 1:14:04Light carriers could spread beyond the major naviesNotable Point
A proven, affordable light-carrier type gives France, Italy, the Netherlands, Greece, Turkey, and South American navies a stronger reason to acquire naval aviation.
- 1:15:37Small fleets gain local air cover without tying down fleet carriersNotable Point
A thirty- to forty-aircraft light carrier can defend a small task group, support convoys, and cover secondary stations while fleet carriers remain concentrated.
- 1:16:29Carrier spending still needs a country-specific political caseNotable Point
US congressional funding, Japanese expansion, and Britain's global commitments and shipyard employment create different political cases for light-carrier construction.
- 1:18:58A carrier becomes the cruiser squadron's aviation workshopNotable Point
A small carrier could remove aviation fuel from cruisers and maintain or replace their seaplanes, making reconnaissance more reliable on distant stations.
- 1:21:05QuestionWhy did interwar navies not use diesel engines for carrier aircraft?AnswerQ&A
Because aircraft development depended on rapidly increasing horsepower, and diesel engines were not perceived as powerful enough.
- 1:21:51More carrier exercises could improve later decisionsNotable Point
Additional carriers create more exercises and operational evidence, which could improve later doctrine and procurement decisions without guaranteeing better judgment.
- 1:22:45Small carriers could widen Japan's shipyard baseNotable Point
A light-carrier programme could shift work beyond Japan's crowded core naval yards and bring other substantial facilities into carrier construction.
- 1:23:41More carriers also mean more escortsNotable Point
A wider carrier fleet improves scouting and anti-submarine options, but it deepens the Royal Navy's recurring shortage of destroyers and cruisers for escort duty.
- 1:25:06How carrier continuity could change Hermes and Force ZNotable Point
A continuing light-carrier production line could replace Hermes before Operation C and give Force Z enough fighter cover to impose severe losses on Japanese torpedo bombers.
- 1:28:22QuestionWhat size and style of pre-1922 aircraft carrier would be most useful in the Second World War?AnswerQ&A
Hermes and Eagle are the strongest candidates: Hermes for range and Eagle for her large hangar.
- 1:29:29QuestionWhat would a carrier design on a heavy-cruiser hull look like if it had to remain below 10,000 tons?AnswerQ&A
Use a Hermes-like arrangement on a cruiser hull; the concept is a modest adaptation, not a full fleet carrier.
- 1:30:06QuestionCould treaty navies have chosen 35,000-ton aircraft carriers instead of 35,000-ton battleships?AnswerQ&A
No. In 1922 carriers were promising but not yet credible substitutes for battleships in the eyes of naval leaders.
- 1:31:01QuestionWhat would a cruiser-carrier submarine look like, and would it be useful?AnswerQ&A
It would resemble an M1 or Surcouf with a hangar, but only an I-400-style strike mission gives the aircraft a convincing purpose.
- 1:32:08QuestionWith twelve light carriers, how many could remain on station while others refit?AnswerQ&A
About six could be operational or readily active at a time, with the rest preparing for or undergoing refit.
- 1:33:12QuestionWould each carrier-backed cruiser station also receive one or two seaplane tenders?AnswerQ&A
Probably not in the Royal Navy, which repeatedly considered but did not embrace the type; France was much more likely to expand seaplane tenders.
- 1:33:45QuestionHow would widespread carrier aviation affect the German Panzerschiff programme?AnswerQ&A
It would make commerce raiding far riskier by giving cruiser groups wide-area scouting and carrier strikes, possibly forcing Germany to rethink the ships' role.
- 1:37:12QuestionWhat changes if Britain mass-produces destroyers and sloops alongside the light carriers?AnswerQ&A
It could support retention of V and W-class destroyers and begin destroyer development earlier instead of compressing it into the 1930s.
- 1:37:56QuestionWhat was Ben-my-Chree, and why did it make the Royal Navy so cautious about aviation fuel?AnswerQ&A
It was a converted ferry used as a First World War seaplane tender, and its aviation fire helped inspire exceptionally cautious British fuel-storage and drainage systems.
- 1:41:09QuestionCould aircraft carried by cruisers land on and operate from the squadron's assigned carrier?AnswerQ&A
Potentially, but later light carriers may carry enough fighters and search aircraft that separate cruiser aircraft become unnecessary.
- 1:41:58Where the carrier counterfactual stops being usefulNotable Point
The scenario stays useful while it follows carrier designs and intended uses repeatedly studied by the Royal Navy; farther downstream, specific outcomes become unreliable.
- 1:43:13QuestionWhat size shipyard and how much manpower would a Hermes-style light carrier require?AnswerQ&A
A cruiser yard and a cruiser-sized crew would suffice; the design could plausibly be built and manned across the Commonwealth.
- 1:45:32QuestionWhat design would the Imperial Japanese Navy choose as its standard light carrier?AnswerQ&A
Probably a more sensible 14,000- to 15,000-ton design closer to a reduced Soryu than to the unsuccessful Ryujo.
- 1:49:03QuestionIf the Fleet Air Arm controlled its own budget, could naval Spitfire work affect the standard Spitfire?AnswerQ&A
Possibly, by funding engine development a year or two earlier, though the effect would be incremental rather than transformative.
- 1:49:59QuestionHow would carrier proliferation affect Japan's naval pilot training plan?AnswerQ&A
Japan would either relax its demanding standards to produce more aviators or expand the same intensive system, with the latter more likely.
- 1:50:24QuestionIf ABDA Command had Dutch and Australian light carriers, would that change the East Indies campaign?AnswerQ&A
Yes: independent reconnaissance and air strikes could alter cruiser battles and make Japanese torpedo attacks more hazardous, but both sides would adapt.
- 1:51:38QuestionCould additional light carriers let Japan strike the Philippines while the main carrier force attacks Hawaii?AnswerQ&A
Possibly, although Japan might instead bring the light carriers to Pearl Harbor to increase the main strike's power.
- 1:53:12QuestionWhy is a modern aircraft-carrier submarine a bad idea?AnswerQ&A
A hangar and its openings undermine pressure-hull design; VLS-launched reconnaissance and strike drones offer a more practical version of the concept.
- 1:53:52QuestionIs a hangar height of about twenty feet reasonable for larger carrier-operated seaplanes?AnswerQ&A
Yes. The tall hangars in Hermes and Eagle show how larger float-equipped aircraft could be accommodated.
- 1:54:11QuestionWould additional light carriers be used at Taranto, on Malta convoys, or against Bismarck?AnswerQ&A
They would more likely free fleet carriers from ASW and scouting, potentially preserving Courageous and Glorious and enabling a much larger Taranto strike.
- 1:55:10QuestionIf Germany built light carriers, how badly would Goering disrupt the programme?AnswerQ&A
There would be a fight over control, but aircraft attached to the ships would probably remain under shipboard authority.
- 1:55:55QuestionHow would the Royal Navy alter a Lexington-class carrier transferred into British service?AnswerQ&A
Remove the heavy guns and use the saved topweight and space to improve the ship's carrier capabilities.
- 1:56:27QuestionWould widespread light-carrier construction make navies take anti-aircraft weaponry more seriously?AnswerQ&A
Yes, though Germany in particular would remain constrained by the loss of research and industrial capacity after the First World War.
- 1:57:01QuestionHow could an interwar designer justify fitting a carrier with catapults?AnswerQ&A
By showing that catapults launch heavier aircraft; the harder argument would be adopting steam rather than hydraulic machinery.
- 1:57:48QuestionHow many jobs would building the extra carriers and accompanying warships create?AnswerQ&A
Several thousand, with shipyards kept open and wider effects across the economy.
- 1:58:02QuestionWould each large fleet carrier be assigned a light carrier for fighter defence?AnswerQ&A
No. The Royal Navy would need the light carriers for too many other station, reconnaissance, and support duties.
- 1:58:33QuestionWhat might happen to French light carriers when France surrenders in 1940?AnswerQ&A
Ships in British ports would likely be seized for the Free French; ships in French ports might be sunk or neutralized.
- 1:59:07QuestionWould the expanded carrier programme counter the influence of land-based heavy-bomber advocates?AnswerQ&A
Yes, because aircraft firms would see more money in naval aviation and have reason to support carrier-based requirements.
- 1:59:20QuestionWould Sweden lack the resources or need to operate a light carrier in the Baltic?AnswerQ&A
Not necessarily; Gotland and Sweden's existing infrastructure make a light carrier plausible in this scenario.
- 1:59:44QuestionCould a carrier-backed ABDA Command delay Japan long enough for a British or American fleet to arrive?AnswerQ&A
No isolated answer is reliable because the scenario has already changed carrier losses, Taranto, Allied deployments, and Japanese calculations.
- 2:02:08QuestionHow would a Stalin-era Soviet light-carrier programme develop in this scenario?AnswerQ&A
It might be authorized, but whether the Soviet Union could complete useful carriers before the war is uncertain.
- 2:02:19QuestionWould ten or more light carriers make Churchill's decision to pause carrier construction more reasonable?AnswerQ&A
Only slightly: the reserve helps, but proven carrier utility and the need for escorts would also make a pause harder to justify.
- 2:03:30QuestionCould Britain cancel its cruiser programme and spend the money on carriers instead?AnswerQ&A
No. The strategy needs both cruisers and carriers because their roles are complementary.
- 2:04:57QuestionMight navies order light carriers from civilian shipyards?AnswerQ&A
Yes. Interwar yards commonly built both naval and commercial ships, so many cruiser-capable yards could take the work.
- 2:06:13QuestionWhat is the best heavy anti-aircraft weapon for an aircraft carrier?AnswerQ&A
For an American carrier, the 5-inch; for a British carrier, probably the 4.5-inch. Both are dual-purpose weapons.