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RN Paper Cruisers; the what might have beens…
Study RN Paper Cruisers; the what might have beens…, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 10 Dec 2020, with 53 time notes. Topics include Cruisers, Naval Gunnery, Royal Navy.
Time notes
- 6:10Alaska frames the scale of Britain's paper-cruiser studiesChapter
The Alaska class provides a benchmark for British studies that ranged from County-derived treaty cruisers to ships armed with 12-inch guns.
- 9:29Why the Royal Navy still needed global cruisersChapter
Britain's global commitments and expected fighting ranges explain why the Royal Navy valued numerous six-inch cruisers.
- 12:14QuestionWas the United Kingdom bankrupt after the Second World War?AnswerQ&A
No under the definition used here: Britain remained income-producing and capable of major construction, but it was severely short of cash and overcommitted.
- 17:32The gold-standard return followed contemporary orthodoxyNotable Point
Britain's postwar return to the gold standard followed the leading economic orthodoxy of its time, though the advice proved damaging.
- 19:34Six-inch volume of fire versus eight-inch weightNotable Point
A rate-of-fire comparison shows why more six-inch shells could outweigh the individual power and range of eight-inch rounds.
- 26:35QuestionWas the 5.25-inch gun a mistake, and should a 1944 cruiser have used it instead of six-inch guns?AnswerQ&A
It was a reasonable earlier compromise, but the high-angle six-inch gun available by 1944 offered better range, impact, and wider utility at a comparable firing rate.
- 29:45QuestionDid First World War Battle Cruiser Fleet experience influence Royal Navy thinking about rate of fire and hit probability?AnswerQ&A
Yes; it reinforced the need for well-practised gun crews and highlighted the barrel-life and weight advantages available with six-inch weapons.
- 33:37QuestionWould three six-inch cruisers have destroyed Admiral Graf Spee if one of them had been a Town class?AnswerQ&A
A Town or full County would have made the action much more dangerous for Graf Spee through sustained shell volume, though the outcome remains counterfactual rather than certain.
- 37:25QuestionCould a six-inch gun load and train quickly enough to be an effective anti-aircraft barrage weapon?AnswerQ&A
The Royal Navy believed its late-war high-angle six-inch mounting could do so, and planned new cruisers around that capability.
- 39:29QuestionHow would Cleveland-, Baltimore-, and Atlanta-class cruisers compare on the Royal Navy firepower chart?AnswerQ&A
Not very differently: similar gun calibres faced similar loading limits, with rapid six-inch fire remaining difficult for eight- and 9.2-inch systems to match.
- 40:37QuestionHow did the Royal Navy's emphasis on night fighting affect the shift from eight-inch to six-inch cruisers?AnswerQ&A
Night actions were expected at shorter ranges, where the eight-inch range advantage mattered less and rapid six-inch fire mattered more.
- 42:20HMS Nubian reached the Eastern Fleet ahead of scheduleNotable Point
HMS Nubian reached the Eastern Fleet about a month early after her crew drove through the Mediterranean because they believed the ship was needed.
- 44:04Dockyard limits constrained five-turret cruiser layoutsNotable Point
A cruiser long enough for five main turrets still had to fit the ports, harbours, and docks where the Royal Navy expected to operate it.
- 46:28QuestionDid the County and York classes use the same eight-inch guns and turrets?AnswerQ&A
They used the same gun barrels but different mountings; the York's intended lighter turret became heavier after reinforcement and lost the older turret's high elevation.
- 47:21QuestionCould six- and eight-inch cruiser shells still be handled by hand, or did they require powered loading?AnswerQ&A
They were near the boundary; trials with automatic ramming are recalled uncertainly, while six inches is treated as the period's practical sweet spot for handling, metallurgy, and firepower.
- 49:38Royal Navy destroyers practised torpedo aiming by firelightNotable Point
Interwar Royal Navy destroyer crews trained to estimate a moving target from the changing light of a fire and continued the practice during the Second World War.
- 50:22Surrey as a balanced County-class successorChapter
The unbuilt Surrey traded a little speed for modern machinery, more armour, and a more balanced eight-inch cruiser design.
- 54:19Cancelling Surrey surrendered treaty leverageNotable Point
Cancelling two heavy cruisers before the London Naval Treaty removed bargaining assets the British delegation might have traded for concessions.
- 56:04Commonwealth navies operated as one professional systemNotable Point
Shared training, promotion, doctrine, and personnel systems made the British and Dominion navies function much like one navy below the political level.
- 57:25QuestionWere Royal Navy destroyers the best-trained destroyer force of the period?AnswerQ&A
That ranking is arguable, but the Royal Navy destroyer force uniquely viewed itself as an elite, with Tribal crews forming an even more specialized group.
- 1:00:34QuestionDid the Royal Navy have proximity-fuzed ammunition for an eight-inch anti-aircraft gun?AnswerQ&A
Proximity fuzes emerged during the war, while the earlier high-angle eight-inch concept relied on time fuzes and the large shell's blast radius.
- 1:04:53QuestionWhat was a Tribal-class destroyer capable of in action?AnswerQ&A
HMS Eskimo continued to attack after losing her bow, while other Tribals are recalled, with explicit uncertainty, as challenging battleships.
- 1:06:40QuestionWhy did Britain keep pressing to downsize battleships in the naval treaties?AnswerQ&A
Canal and cost constraints mattered, while battleship negotiations also diverted attention from the cruisers Britain considered more useful.
- 1:07:20QuestionHow did British County and York cruisers influence Imperial Japanese Navy cruiser design?AnswerQ&A
No direct design lineage is claimed, though Counties and Towns on the China and East Indies stations gave Japanese officers repeated close observation.
- 1:10:13QuestionWhy did the County class not look like the modernized HMS London from the beginning?AnswerQ&A
Because it was an early-1920s design whose real peers were the C-, D-, and E-class light cruisers and the Hawkins class, not London's much later refit.
- 1:10:44The sixteen-gun Super Town cruiserChapter
Belfast and Edinburgh were conceived around quadruple six-inch turrets that could have produced a sixteen-gun Super Town.
- 1:12:24Naval treaty ratios carried political and cultural costsNotable Point
The treaty system constrained ship numbers but also made relative status part of the bargain, contributing to Japanese resentment.
- 1:12:45QuestionHow did the unbuilt Surrey design compare with Spain's Canarias-class cruisers?AnswerQ&A
They were broadly similar, but the Canarias class is judged less capable than a regular County-class cruiser.
- 1:13:03QuestionDid the naval treaties force the 1939 King George V class to use 14-inch guns?AnswerQ&A
No; the British government chose the calibre in hopes that other powers would follow, rather than the Royal Navy selecting it as its preferred solution.
- 1:15:59QuestionWould the Super Town's quadruple six-inch turret have been split internally, and how would its four guns have been arranged?AnswerQ&A
Probably: an armoured division could preserve half the turret after a hit, and staggered gun positions would help reduce interference between the barrels.
- 1:19:13QuestionWhat happened to the proposed 20,000-ton cruiser with quadruple 9.2-inch guns?AnswerQ&A
It became too close to a battlecruiser in size and competed for the same shipyards as carriers and battleships, so the proposal lost its practical advantage.
- 1:21:20QuestionHow did the British 5.25-inch gun compare with the United States Navy's 5-inch weapon?AnswerQ&A
The American gun led early in the war, the improved British 5.25-inch may have led around 1944-46, and later American development restored the 5-inch advantage.
- 1:23:29QuestionDid Royal Navy ships really paint the Union Jack on turret roofs?AnswerQ&A
Some did, chiefly to help allied and British aircraft identify the ship from above and reduce friendly-fire mistakes.
- 1:25:30QuestionCould the Super Town's quadruple six-inch turret have been fitted to the Crown Colony class?AnswerQ&A
Probably; the shared turret ring could support three quadruple mounts, potentially freeing space for a heavier 5.25-inch secondary battery.
- 1:29:31QuestionWithout the naval treaties, how large would battleships probably have become during the 1920s?AnswerQ&A
Roughly 45,000 tons under democratic budget pressure, with larger designs possible if authoritarian competition drove the race upward.
- 1:32:30Super Town planning assumed treaty limits would fadeNotable Point
Belfast's existing displacement and planned quadruple turrets show that the Admiralty did not expect the 10,000-ton treaty ceiling to remain decisive.
- 1:35:04QuestionWhich was better, the Royal Navy Pom-Pom or the Bofors 40 mm?AnswerQ&A
The Bofors is the preferred general solution because of its greater reach, while the Pom-Pom offers a higher rate of fire.
- 1:36:24QuestionDid fear of another cruiser arms race explain why Britain stopped building eight-inch cruisers?AnswerQ&A
Only partly; the public restraint argument has to be weighed against continued British design studies and contemporary American construction.
- 1:37:51QuestionWhich Town-class cruiser was the most experienced during the Second World War?AnswerQ&A
The answer depends on the measure used, with HMS Birmingham, HMS Newcastle, and HMS Sheffield the strongest contenders.
- 1:39:09Neptune stretched the meaning of light cruiserChapter
The 19,000-ton Neptune combined twelve to sixteen six-inch guns with the broadside firepower and torpedoes of two Daring-class destroyers.
- 1:44:07QuestionTo what extent did light fleet carriers replace cruisers in Royal Navy doctrine?AnswerQ&A
They were often cited as replacements for the larger cruiser types, but the substitution was a doctrinal and budgetary argument rather than a complete one-for-one match.
- 1:46:44QuestionWas anti-aircraft fire the main reason for automatic loading in postwar six-inch cruiser guns?AnswerQ&A
Only partly; high-angle rapid fire mattered, but the Royal Navy also needed to reduce gun crews as its available manpower contracted.
- 1:47:38QuestionCould an unbuilt Neptune-class cruiser have affected the postwar Royal Navy or survived to the Falklands War?AnswerQ&A
Possibly: its size and layout offered more modernization room than the Tigers, including helicopter conversion while retaining substantial forward gun power.
- 1:49:31Minotaur layouts had to fit British firing prioritiesChapter
A British Minotaur would likely favor stepped forward turrets, a longer hull, and sustained cruising speed rather than an American-style layout.
- 1:52:54QuestionWas the 1947 Minotaur design the same class associated with HMCS Ontario?AnswerQ&A
No; the postwar paper design was distinct from earlier uses of the Minotaur name, including the wartime class connected with HMCS Ontario.
- 1:54:43QuestionWould the postwar Minotaur cruiser have used the new three-inch secondary gun, and what was it meant to achieve?AnswerQ&A
Yes; it was intended to combine near-40 mm rapid fire with the greater range and hitting power of heavier anti-aircraft guns.
- 1:55:09QuestionWhy did the Royal Navy retain the 4.5-inch gun instead of adopting the NATO-standard 155 mm calibre?AnswerQ&A
Long institutional attachment to the British 4.5-inch system produced a mix of procurement inertia and national preference.
- 2:00:40Town-class adaptability delayed the next cruiserNotable Point
The Town class remained so adaptable that repeated refits weakened the funding case for a purpose-built postwar cruiser.
- 2:04:05QuestionWere missile versions of these cruiser studies considered in the 1950s?AnswerQ&A
Yes; numerous missile studies exploited the need for large hulls, helping drive the evolution toward guided-missile cruisers.
- 2:06:57QuestionDid the United States also avoid building new cruisers because it had so many Second World War ships, and did their size help?AnswerQ&A
Yes; larger wartime hulls were useful missile-conversion platforms, although later cruiser designs did not necessarily fulfill the entire traditional role.
- 2:09:04QuestionCould the Invincible class be considered a rebirth of the escort carrier concept?AnswerQ&A
More accurately, it revived the broader cruiser-carrier concept, of which the escort carrier was only the cheapest stripped-down form.
- 2:11:12QuestionWhat does it mean to break the back of a steel warship, and how does that differ from breaking a wooden keel?AnswerQ&A
It means critically damaging the main longitudinal hull structure so that external pressure and the ship's own weight can bend or break the vessel.
- 2:12:57QuestionCould the Town-class cruisers have been converted into missile ships, and why were they ultimately retired?AnswerQ&A
A conversion replacing the after turrets was feasible in principle, but machinery fatigue and refit costs made continued service unattractive.