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Battle of Quiberon Bay
Study Battle of Quiberon Bay, a Dr. Alex Clarke video from 20 Nov 2020, with 42 time notes. Topics include Age Of Sail, Amphibious Warfare, Battle Of Quiberon Bay.
Time notes
- 4:16QuestionWhat rank normally commands a frigate or destroyer?AnswerQ&A
Usually a commander or captain today, while lieutenant commanders were common in the Second World War and Tribal-class destroyers often had more senior officers.
- 6:11Mahan's "Trafalgar before Trafalgar" labelNotable Point
Mahan's famous comparison introduces the battle, followed by a warning that the label can import Trafalgar's later prestige into an earlier and distinct engagement.
- 8:16Quiberon Bay in the global Seven Years' WarChapter
The battle is placed within a war that stretched from North America to India and reshaped Britain's overseas position.
- 16:02QuestionWas the Seven Years' War the first war fought on a genuinely global scale?AnswerQ&A
Yes. Its worldwide scope makes it the first global war, while its conventional name obscures that reach.
- 18:42France's 1759 invasion planChapter
France planned to send 100,000 troops across the Channel in flat-bottomed barges while trying to evade Royal Navy intervention.
- 27:29QuestionWhat share of British and French naval strength did the opposing fleets represent?AnswerQ&A
About 40 percent for France and roughly 20 to 30 percent for Britain.
- 28:04The Carrickfergus raid after Quiberon BayNotable Point
France still attempted a small landing in Ireland, but local mobilization and a Royal Navy frigate action destroyed the raiding force's escape.
- 32:31Edward Hawke's command experienceNotable Point
Edward Hawke arrives at Quiberon Bay as an experienced admiral trusted to restore British sea power after earlier failures.
- 37:28Sir Charles Hardy beyond the battleNotable Point
A lesser-known British admiral is shown as both a fleet commander and an influence on later naval reforms.
- 40:50QuestionDid Edward Hawke still seek sea command after becoming a full admiral?AnswerQ&A
Yes. He served at sea as a full admiral and later wanted to combine senior Admiralty office with command of the largest fleet.
- 42:19James Young and the careers beneath famous admiralsNotable Point
Commodore James Young represents the capable deputy commanders whose long service rarely produced a famous fleet battle of their own.
- 43:47French commanders and divided authorityNotable Point
The French command group combined differing levels of sea experience, status, and responsibility for the embarked troops.
- 45:55QuestionWhat was Edward Hawke's relationship with the Walpole family?AnswerQ&A
He had political connections with the Walpoles and the Pitts, support that helped him operate effectively in senior naval office.
- 47:30QuestionDid defeat in the Seven Years' War help set France up for the Revolution?AnswerQ&A
Yes. Defeat, damaged trade and credit, state default, and subsequent taxation added to the pressures that contributed to revolution.
- 52:03QuestionWas Admiral Howe more capable at his job than General Howe?AnswerQ&A
Yes. The judgment is that Admiral Howe was more capable by orders of magnitude.
- 52:13QuestionWas the H-class destroyer HMS Hardy named for one of these Hardy officers?AnswerQ&A
She was probably named for Sir Thomas Hardy, although the identification is tentative.
- 52:31The Royal Navy force at Quiberon BayChapter
The British order of battle reveals a fleet of 100-, 90-, 80-, 74-, 70-, 64-, and 60-gun ships led by familiar naval families.
- 58:01QuestionWhy did the fleet include so many 60- and 70-gun ships instead of 64s and 74s?AnswerQ&A
Because the transition was still underway in 1759; Hawke later helped implement the shift toward 64- and 74-gun ships.
- 59:12French ships and the rise of the 64 and 74Notable Point
The French fleet's varied ship ratings help explain why British attention turned toward the 64- and 74-gun ship of the line.
- 1:04:57Storm, scouting, and the chase into the bayChapter
Storms disrupted both sides, but a small British squadron helped draw the French into Hawke's approaching fleet.
- 1:08:51Fighting among Quiberon Bay's shoalsChapter
British ships overtook the French rear in dangerous waters, turning a pursuit into a destructive general action.
- 1:09:59Hawke set the chase and his captains fought itNotable Point
The British van was already fighting before Hawke entered the bay, illustrating delegated initiative within the fleet.
- 1:15:47Why the victory mattered beyond the bayChapter
The destruction and trapping of French ships preserved British blockade pressure and weakened French naval recovery.
- 1:16:42Hawke's plan to attack the trapped French fleet from landNotable Point
When fireships failed against French vessels trapped in the Vilaine, Hawke considered seizing ground ashore and attacking them from land.
- 1:22:21HMAS Quiberon carried the battle name into World War IINotable Point
The Royal Australian Navy's Q-class destroyer HMAS Quiberon carried the 1759 battle name through a wide World War II service career.
- 1:23:34QuestionWhy did the French suffer far more casualties despite similar fleet sizes?AnswerQ&A
Their fleet was scattered and individual ships were often engaged by multiple concentrated British opponents, while French ships were also lost outright.
- 1:26:46QuestionHad the Royal Navy and French Navy already developed distinct approaches to shooting by 1759?AnswerQ&A
Not really. Their gunnery practice was still developing, and specialized gunnery officers were only beginning to appear.
- 1:27:03QuestionWere Seven Years' War victories false positives for later British strategy?AnswerQ&A
Partly, but they also pushed Britain to value professional officers, experienced sailors, and sound ships as the basis for future success.
- 1:28:39QuestionWere any ships from Quiberon Bay still in service by the Battle of Trafalgar?AnswerQ&A
Not in an unreconstructed form: Royal George was lost in 1782 and Warspite lasted until 1801, while long-lived ships generally required major rebuilding.
- 1:32:19QuestionWas major reconstruction mainly reserved for first-rate ships of the line?AnswerQ&A
No. Rebuilding was common because funding a rebuild was often easier than obtaining a wholly new ship.
- 1:37:26G. R. G. Worcester's study of Chinese junk craftNotable Point
A book discussion introduces G. R. G. Worcester's long field study of Chinese boats, river navigation, and maritime customs.
- 1:44:07QuestionHow far up the Yangtze and other Chinese rivers could large warships sail?AnswerQ&A
No distance is given, but Royal Navy mapping from the Second Opium War shows that vessels reached quite far upriver.
- 1:49:38QuestionWere any warships less useful than Kamchatka?AnswerQ&A
British-built Confederate steam rams and some French ships are suggested, with the rams ultimately purchased by the Royal Navy.
- 1:50:16Sea training, patronage, and naval commandNotable Point
French senior command tied closely to army status is contrasted with a Royal Navy that still required sea training and ship-handling competence.
- 1:53:36Why the invasion plan failed in practiceNotable Point
Even if French troops reached Britain, small first waves, weather, mobilization, and Royal Navy counteraction threatened the whole scheme.
- 1:56:52QuestionDid a technological development cause the shift from 64- to 74-gun ships?AnswerQ&A
It reflected cheaper guns and larger ships designed for global operations, not one isolated technological leap.
- 2:01:18QuestionWhat may explain the loss of H. L. Hunley and its crew?AnswerQ&A
The hypothesis is that the submarine's own blast incapacitated the crew and a damaged pipe then allowed flooding before they recovered.
- 2:02:28QuestionDid Rodney's raid on the Le Havre barges end the danger of a French invasion in 1759?AnswerQ&A
No. The Le Havre force was damaged, but roughly half of the invasion barges remained at Quiberon Bay and still posed a threat if they escaped.
- 2:08:56QuestionDid spar-armed submarines become a dead end once the Whitehead torpedo made attack more practical?AnswerQ&A
Yes. The Whitehead torpedo greatly increased practicality and displaced the spar-torpedo approach.
- 2:11:56Why weaker navies fall into short-term operationsNotable Point
The Confederate Navy is compared with France after Quiberon Bay to explain why an under-resourced naval power defaults to short-term operations.
- 2:14:40The 2020 proposal to grow Royal Navy escort numbersNotable Point
A November 2020 aside records the announced ambition to grow the Royal Navy from 19 escorts to 24, along with skepticism about delivery.
- 2:17:54QuestionWhy did Britain and the United States often prioritize technology leadership before quantity?AnswerQ&A
They sought to enter mass production from a more mature technical base, accepting initial numerical limits in return for a later reliability and capability advantage.