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Would a captured New Ironsides produce a British Gloire or Warrior?

The debate weighs a local battle-line ironclad against a cruising-frigate design for Britain's first copies.

Notes

A dockyard supporting New Ironsides would become an attractive British amphibious target in the 1812 scenario. Capturing the ship could accelerate British ironclad development, but the panel disagrees over what the resulting vessel would resemble. Fleet expects limited early machinery and the available example to favor a first generation closer to Gloire, followed by a cruising design. Clarke argues that British roles and shipbuilding habits would already push the hull toward the Warrior type. He contrasts Gloire's envisaged local battle-line employment with Warrior's long-range cruising role, then emphasizes British concern for the Mediterranean. Captured French ships provide another comparison: Britain altered designs and rigging to its own requirements instead of copying them unchanged. Fleet raises structural and technological limits before acknowledging that large British frigates already offered relevant predecessors. The final qualification is a smaller, earlier ship shaped more like a British cruising frigate, rather than a full-scale Warrior arriving decades early.